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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
June 08 2013 06:07 GMT
#6301
On June 08 2013 14:01 gtrsrs wrote:
wow, more bullshit steroids
but no it was when he was out of lightning rush. still what a bs champ why does he get so much free while also being ranged


He's manaless, that means he gets lots of free stats too. Somehow Riot forgot to give him a spammable free shield or sustain though, dunno what they were thinking.
I am the Town Medic.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
June 08 2013 06:08 GMT
#6302
On June 08 2013 14:01 gtrsrs wrote:
wow, more bullshit steroids
but no it was when he was out of lightning rush. still what a bs champ why does he get so much free while also being ranged

The armor steroid lasts 2 seconds after he gets out of lightning rush, too.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 08 2013 06:11 GMT
#6303
would anyone living in socal be willing to host one of my players for a couple days after week 1's games? pls pm me
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
June 08 2013 06:30 GMT
#6304
Considering Kennen needs to be in the middle of a fight to do the majority of his damage, I'd say his resists buff is far from bullshit.

Kennen is one of the best designed champs in league imo. His entire kit needs to be chained together in order to make full use of him.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
June 08 2013 06:30 GMT
#6305
On June 08 2013 15:07 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 14:01 gtrsrs wrote:
wow, more bullshit steroids
but no it was when he was out of lightning rush. still what a bs champ why does he get so much free while also being ranged


He's manaless, that means he gets lots of free stats too. Somehow Riot forgot to give him a spammable free shield or sustain though, dunno what they were thinking.

It's okay, they made up for it by making his ult free.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
June 08 2013 06:35 GMT
#6306
On June 08 2013 15:30 Cloud9157 wrote:
Considering Kennen needs to be in the middle of a fight to do the majority of his damage, I'd say his resists buff is far from bullshit.

Kennen is one of the best designed champs in league imo. His entire kit needs to be chained together in order to make full use of him.


And his entire team fight is dependent on getting a single item, without it he's worthless. Kennen is far from bullshit and it sounds like the guy just didn't know what to do vs. Kennen and/or got hard counter picked and is just complaining. Wanna beat Kennen? Play another ranged and just beat him straight up, Vlad/Ryze do this quite well and Jayce has 10x better poke.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
June 08 2013 06:41 GMT
#6307
And with it he's amazing, so don't make it sound like some big weakness.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
June 08 2013 06:56 GMT
#6308
Eh, I welcome the return of Kennen. At least he's fun to play, unlike other AP tops (looking at your Rumble and Vlad)
Retvrn to Forvms
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 08 2013 06:58 GMT
#6309
On June 08 2013 15:11 gtrsrs wrote:
would anyone living in socal be willing to host one of my players for a couple days after week 1's games? pls pm me

if I was still in SD, yes no problem... but i moved to cleveland sad times. Yo may take this as a crazy suggestion, but try couchsurfers... ive hosted ppl and been one, and had nothing but good experiences. Especially around the areas with a university you should have good results.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
June 08 2013 06:59 GMT
#6310
On June 08 2013 15:35 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 15:30 Cloud9157 wrote:
Considering Kennen needs to be in the middle of a fight to do the majority of his damage, I'd say his resists buff is far from bullshit.

Kennen is one of the best designed champs in league imo. His entire kit needs to be chained together in order to make full use of him.


And his entire team fight is dependent on getting a single item, without it he's worthless. Kennen is far from bullshit and it sounds like the guy just didn't know what to do vs. Kennen and/or got hard counter picked and is just complaining. Wanna beat Kennen? Play another ranged and just beat him straight up, Vlad/Ryze do this quite well and Jayce has 10x better poke.

It isn't rare that some of the more bullshit champs in the game are that way because they have an item that works really well for them.

Whether it's that way for Kennen or not is beyond me. I haven't played the guy since sub5.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 07:09:48
June 08 2013 07:09 GMT
#6311
39 days since Lissandra was released and Aatrox is still missing in action. The previous post-launch record was Quinn at 37 days (ignoring the 53 day gap between launch and Udyr). The past four, in fact, have taken roughly a month, with most taking longer.
+ Show Spoiler [Numbers] +
  • Lissandra: 32 days
  • Zac: 28 days
  • Quinn: 37 days
  • Thresh: 35 days

I think it's good for the game that champions are taking longer, but it's interesting that Riot started taking longer on champions without much word of warning.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 08 2013 07:12 GMT
#6312
On June 08 2013 16:09 Seuss wrote:
39 days since Lissandra was released and Aatrox is still missing in action. The previous post-launch record was Quinn at 37 days (ignoring the 53 day gap between launch and Udyr). The past four, in fact, have taken roughly a month, with most taking longer.
+ Show Spoiler [Numbers] +
  • Lissandra: 32 days
  • Zac: 28 days
  • Quinn: 37 days
  • Thresh: 35 days

I think it's good for the game that champions are taking longer, but it's interesting that Riot started taking longer on champions without much word of warning.

I think Riot has always said that they'll slow down release of champions as the number of champions increase. This is a good thing imo. It makes every new champ more fresh and exciting while also lets the game develop a lot more naturally. I believe LoL has surpassed DotA 2 in number of champions/heroes released.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
June 08 2013 07:12 GMT
#6313
On June 08 2013 16:09 Seuss wrote:
39 days since Lissandra was released and Aatrox is still missing in action. The previous post-launch record was Quinn at 37 days (ignoring the 53 day gap between launch and Udyr). The past four, in fact, have taken roughly a month, with most taking longer.
+ Show Spoiler [Numbers] +
  • Lissandra: 32 days
  • Zac: 28 days
  • Quinn: 37 days
  • Thresh: 35 days

I think it's good for the game that champions are taking longer, but it's interesting that Riot started taking longer on champions without much word of warning.

I think they said openly, a while ago, they they were looking towards a 3-4 week cycle for champion rollouts. I guess they got tired of having a patch come out, and then hotfixing in a champion within a couple days of the patch. We're probably waiting on the Ultimate skin atm.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
June 08 2013 07:13 GMT
#6314
I still don't know why they made his ult free. Just as a brag, I asked about Kennen top when it first happened. I just don't think I was anywhere close to what people are doing now though.

I guess the real brag should go to this person. #1 future prediction:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396402&currentpage=52#1037
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 08 2013 07:20 GMT
#6315
On June 08 2013 16:13 ketchup wrote:
I still don't know why they made his ult free. Just as a brag, I asked about Kennen top when it first happened. I just don't think I was anywhere close to what people are doing now though.

I guess the real brag should go to this person. #1 future prediction:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396402&currentpage=52#1037

i dunno, i think predicting jungle nasus was better
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 08 2013 07:26 GMT
#6316
On June 08 2013 16:13 ketchup wrote:
I still don't know why they made his ult free. Just as a brag, I asked about Kennen top when it first happened. I just don't think I was anywhere close to what people are doing now though.

I guess the real brag should go to this person. #1 future prediction:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396402&currentpage=52#1037

Consistency. Every other energy champion's ultimate is free. I think they'd rather that be consistent and rebalance the champs from there rather than have some energy champs have ultimates with costs and others be free.
Moderator
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 07:30:01
June 08 2013 07:26 GMT
#6317
On June 08 2013 16:13 ketchup wrote:
I still don't know why they made his ult free. Just as a brag, I asked about Kennen top when it first happened. I just don't think I was anywhere close to what people are doing now though.

I guess the real brag should go to this person. #1 future prediction:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396402&currentpage=52#1037

I heard, at the time, he was the only energy champion who had an energy cost attached to its ultimate. Never bothered to check the veractiy of it.


No, gtr, Veracity. Shoo.
+ Show Spoiler +
<3


EDIT: Just checked, it's true. Aaaand gtr got me Zed'ed.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 07:31:26
June 08 2013 07:31 GMT
#6318
On June 08 2013 16:26 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 16:13 ketchup wrote:
I still don't know why they made his ult free. Just as a brag, I asked about Kennen top when it first happened. I just don't think I was anywhere close to what people are doing now though.

I guess the real brag should go to this person. #1 future prediction:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396402&currentpage=52#1037

Consistency. Every other energy champion's ultimate is free. I think they'd rather that be consistent and rebalance the champs from there rather than have some energy champs have ultimates with costs and others be free.


I see. That's interesting to know. thanks

On June 08 2013 16:26 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 16:13 ketchup wrote:
I still don't know why they made his ult free. Just as a brag, I asked about Kennen top when it first happened. I just don't think I was anywhere close to what people are doing now though.

I guess the real brag should go to this person. #1 future prediction:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396402&currentpage=52#1037

I heard, at the time, he was the only energy champion who had an energy cost attached to its ultimate. Never bothered to check the veractiy of it.


No, gtr, Veracity. Shoo.
+ Show Spoiler +
<3



Thanks.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 07:31:59
June 08 2013 07:31 GMT
#6319
I mean, in the beginning, Shen and Kennen both had energy costs on their ultimates and Akali's used charges, so it wasn't "inconsistent" for them to have a cost.

Then Lee got added with no cost, Shen's got removed, and Zed got added with no cost. THEN Kennen was the only energy champ with an energy cost on his ultimate.

Its sort of energy champ power creep, really.
Moderator
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
June 08 2013 07:31 GMT
#6320
On June 08 2013 16:26 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 16:13 ketchup wrote:
I still don't know why they made his ult free. Just as a brag, I asked about Kennen top when it first happened. I just don't think I was anywhere close to what people are doing now though.

I guess the real brag should go to this person. #1 future prediction:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396402&currentpage=52#1037

Consistency. Every other energy champion's ultimate is free. I think they'd rather that be consistent and rebalance the champs from there rather than have some energy champs have ultimates with costs and others be free.


cos it's unfun to not have mana/energy to cast shit. #riotfuntimes
cool beans
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