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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
June 08 2013 02:49 GMT
#6281
On June 08 2013 11:15 overt wrote:
Yorick is one of the best champions in the game if your team's ADC is strong and/or gets an early lead. His ult is just so abusive when placed on an ADC that knows how to use it. His laning is retardedly safe too.

As for LCS Summer Split stuff...

I think it's cool that they have game 1 between Coast and TSM as a re-match from the Spring Split finals. Super week for week 1 is obviously cool too so that we can get a decent glimpse at the standings a bit earlier (will still need to wait until at least week 3 or 4 to get an accurate assessment of where all the teams stand imo).

As for C9, I think that Hai is poised to be the best mid laner in NA. Balls is really average, hopefully he can develop as the season goes on but he's been in the 'pro' scene before and got benched from Vulcun/FeaR due to poor performance. Lemonnation is good, Sneaky is also good, but they're untested against LCS bot lanes (however their scriming with TSM probably helped that lane out the most). Meteos looked incredible during qualifiers though.

I don't expect C9 to do extraordinary during the early weeks. I think they're definitely overhyped a bit. But if they can play with the same pressure they did during qualifiers and if Balls and their bot lane can improve they will be one of the scariest teams in the second half of the split for sure.

Super week will be a great test for them too. They play Curse, Dig, TSM, Coast, and VES.


I actually really agree with your assessment. I think large skill differences in mid and jungle are some of the most obvious/snowball games the most. And Hai and Meteos are C9's strongest players. They are still strong LCS players, but won't be stomping thru like they did in the Amateur scene.

The Lemon/Sneaky bot lane was better than most of the amateur bot lanes they played, but won't have the benefit of absurd Hai/Meteos pressure and will be at a 2v2 disadvantage to some of the LCS bots

And Balls is decent, but I think needs a lot of help to win his lane 1v1 and without Hai and Meteos stomping people, he's going to start consistently losing top.

The team is still good, like a ~60% win team in LCS, but their top and bot are going to have to improve now that Hai/Meteos are going up against players good enough to stop the game from snowballing.
Anything is Possible
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
June 08 2013 02:53 GMT
#6282
On June 08 2013 11:38 LaM wrote:
Anybody tried Dawngate. *don't shoot*

Played a few matches today and it was a lot of fun. I have so much invested in following the LoL pro/streaming scene that it will be tough to switch completely, but for my own gameplay (in terms of being a high level player/enjoying the game) I feel like I have more potential in Dawngate. Something about being Diamond on multiple accounts and realizing just how far away you are from the actual good players... Too many good LoL players out there


From what I noticed of it, isn't it just better supported dominion mode? I don't know how long it will last, but seems okay. As in, if they support it well enough, it could be something. Although if we take into consideration how dominant LoL and DotA2 are, it doesn't really have much going for it.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 08 2013 03:21 GMT
#6283
i wanted to try chaos online, aka korean dota, because in the japanese version you can play as alicia and selvaria from valkyria chronicles.

but that's only the japanese version on japanese servers. so meh. back to lol and dota it is.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 08 2013 03:53 GMT
#6284
Remember kids; Worth is just another way to spell throw.
liftlift > tsm
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 08 2013 03:54 GMT
#6285
On June 08 2013 12:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Remember kids; Worth is just another way to spell throw.

throw is just another way to spell worth
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 08 2013 03:55 GMT
#6286
On June 08 2013 12:54 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 12:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Remember kids; Worth is just another way to spell throw.

throw is just another way to spell worth

Throw is another way to spell dignitas.
liftlift > tsm
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 08 2013 03:58 GMT
#6287
I want to try 300 Heroes.
I heard it is awesome.
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
June 08 2013 04:12 GMT
#6288
On June 08 2013 12:58 canikizu wrote:
I want to try 300 Heroes.
I heard it is awesome.


Lmao Shrek throwing donkeys is just godlike.
Anything is Possible
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 08 2013 04:15 GMT
#6289
On June 08 2013 13:12 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 12:58 canikizu wrote:
I want to try 300 Heroes.
I heard it is awesome.


Lmao Shrek throwing donkeys is just godlike.

And it pulls champion back blitzcrank style.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 04:26:26
June 08 2013 04:22 GMT
#6290
i just laned against a kennen that had 85 AP at level 7, while also having 110 armor
how is this possible?

checking his runes he had +26 ap +13 armor. someone pls help me. his only item at the time was seeker's (and a d-blade and boots, neither of which give armor or ap)

he can get 45 armor and 35 ap from seeker's (which wasn't fully stacked by this time)

kennen's base armor is 14 (+3.75) so he should have had 40.25 base, +13 runes, +45 max from seeker's = 98.25. defensive runes gave him 2 more, that's still 10 armor unaccounted for
his ap should have been 35 + 26 = 61... another 25 unaccounted for. 7 for blast mastery, 6 for mental force, 5% for archmage would be ~78. ~8 ap unaccounted for

so this guy basically had 200g + 174g = 374g free stats out of nowhere.

edit: ignite mastery + 5 ap okay so ap is basically accounted for

pls tl tell me how this happened. is there some sort of hack to equip multiple runes in slots or something? kennen is bullshit enough as it is. infinite range no resources impossible to catch. how did he get so much free shit too?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 04:27:26
June 08 2013 04:27 GMT
#6291
yay super week first! No more 0-0 team being in an underminate spot in the rankings on the news that you can't divide by 0 :D

EDIT: s/can/can't
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 08 2013 04:28 GMT
#6292
On June 08 2013 13:22 gtrsrs wrote:
i just laned against a kennen that had 85 AP at level 7, while also having 110 armor
how is this possible?

checking his runes he had +26 ap +13 armor. someone pls help me. his only item at the time was seeker's (and a d-blade and boots, neither of which give armor or ap)

he can get 45 armor and 35 ap from seeker's (which wasn't fully stacked by this time)

kennen's base armor is 14 (+3.75) so he should have had 40.25 base, +13 runes, +45 max from seeker's = 98.25. defensive runes gave him 2 more, that's still 10 armor unaccounted for
his ap should have been 35 + 26 = 61... another 25 unaccounted for. 7 for blast mastery, 6 for mental force, 5% for archmage would be ~78. ~8 ap unaccounted for

so this guy basically had 200g + 174g = 374g free stats out of nowhere.

edit: ignite mastery + 5 ap okay so ap is basically accounted for

pls tl tell me how this happened. is there some sort of hack to equip multiple runes in slots or something? kennen is bullshit enough as it is. infinite range no resources impossible to catch. how did he get so much free shit too?


Perhaps an http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Elixir_of_Brilliance + defensive masteries of some sort instead?
Freeeeeeedom
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
June 08 2013 04:30 GMT
#6293
Playing jungle eve with exhaust feels so fucking dirty.

I LOVE IT
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 08 2013 04:33 GMT
#6294
On June 08 2013 13:28 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 13:22 gtrsrs wrote:
i just laned against a kennen that had 85 AP at level 7, while also having 110 armor
how is this possible?

checking his runes he had +26 ap +13 armor. someone pls help me. his only item at the time was seeker's (and a d-blade and boots, neither of which give armor or ap)

he can get 45 armor and 35 ap from seeker's (which wasn't fully stacked by this time)

kennen's base armor is 14 (+3.75) so he should have had 40.25 base, +13 runes, +45 max from seeker's = 98.25. defensive runes gave him 2 more, that's still 10 armor unaccounted for
his ap should have been 35 + 26 = 61... another 25 unaccounted for. 7 for blast mastery, 6 for mental force, 5% for archmage would be ~78. ~8 ap unaccounted for

so this guy basically had 200g + 174g = 374g free stats out of nowhere.

edit: ignite mastery + 5 ap okay so ap is basically accounted for

pls tl tell me how this happened. is there some sort of hack to equip multiple runes in slots or something? kennen is bullshit enough as it is. infinite range no resources impossible to catch. how did he get so much free shit too?


Perhaps an http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Elixir_of_Brilliance + defensive masteries of some sort instead?


no, i checked, he was running 21/9/0
he also didn't have a blue pot, but yeah that would be one way to explain it
holy shit ap champs are so bullshit i need to play them more
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
June 08 2013 04:47 GMT
#6295
Kennen's Lightning Rush gives him armor and magic resistance.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 08 2013 04:48 GMT
#6296
On June 08 2013 13:33 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 13:28 cLutZ wrote:
On June 08 2013 13:22 gtrsrs wrote:
i just laned against a kennen that had 85 AP at level 7, while also having 110 armor
how is this possible?

checking his runes he had +26 ap +13 armor. someone pls help me. his only item at the time was seeker's (and a d-blade and boots, neither of which give armor or ap)

he can get 45 armor and 35 ap from seeker's (which wasn't fully stacked by this time)

kennen's base armor is 14 (+3.75) so he should have had 40.25 base, +13 runes, +45 max from seeker's = 98.25. defensive runes gave him 2 more, that's still 10 armor unaccounted for
his ap should have been 35 + 26 = 61... another 25 unaccounted for. 7 for blast mastery, 6 for mental force, 5% for archmage would be ~78. ~8 ap unaccounted for

so this guy basically had 200g + 174g = 374g free stats out of nowhere.

edit: ignite mastery + 5 ap okay so ap is basically accounted for

pls tl tell me how this happened. is there some sort of hack to equip multiple runes in slots or something? kennen is bullshit enough as it is. infinite range no resources impossible to catch. how did he get so much free shit too?


Perhaps an http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Elixir_of_Brilliance + defensive masteries of some sort instead?


no, i checked, he was running 21/9/0
he also didn't have a blue pot, but yeah that would be one way to explain it
holy shit ap champs are so bullshit i need to play them more


Armor could be from his lightning rush.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 08 2013 05:01 GMT
#6297
wow, more bullshit steroids
but no it was when he was out of lightning rush. still what a bs champ why does he get so much free while also being ranged
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 08 2013 05:06 GMT
#6298
On June 08 2013 13:33 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 13:28 cLutZ wrote:
On June 08 2013 13:22 gtrsrs wrote:
i just laned against a kennen that had 85 AP at level 7, while also having 110 armor
how is this possible?

checking his runes he had +26 ap +13 armor. someone pls help me. his only item at the time was seeker's (and a d-blade and boots, neither of which give armor or ap)

he can get 45 armor and 35 ap from seeker's (which wasn't fully stacked by this time)

kennen's base armor is 14 (+3.75) so he should have had 40.25 base, +13 runes, +45 max from seeker's = 98.25. defensive runes gave him 2 more, that's still 10 armor unaccounted for
his ap should have been 35 + 26 = 61... another 25 unaccounted for. 7 for blast mastery, 6 for mental force, 5% for archmage would be ~78. ~8 ap unaccounted for

so this guy basically had 200g + 174g = 374g free stats out of nowhere.

edit: ignite mastery + 5 ap okay so ap is basically accounted for

pls tl tell me how this happened. is there some sort of hack to equip multiple runes in slots or something? kennen is bullshit enough as it is. infinite range no resources impossible to catch. how did he get so much free shit too?


Perhaps an http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Elixir_of_Brilliance + defensive masteries of some sort instead?


no, i checked, he was running 21/9/0
he also didn't have a blue pot, but yeah that would be one way to explain it
holy shit ap champs are so bullshit i need to play them more


I suggest you tell your team how BS AP champs are. And ban them from playing Zed, Khazix, and Jayce. It will turn out well for you :p
Freeeeeeedom
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
June 08 2013 05:40 GMT
#6299
Was it right after he got out of it? According to the wiki, the resists last 4 seconds, even if the rest of the ability (which lasts only up to 3 seconds) is cancelled.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 05:56:30
June 08 2013 05:56 GMT
#6300
Know what the above is? A QQ rant disguised as general inquiry. gg-yo
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