On June 08 2013 08:14 Cixah wrote: Hey yo Neo, Do you know anything about Players needing Work Visas to play in LCS? Does this mean that Edward already has his? Or is Riot just going to let it slide?
The rule is you must be a legal resident that is allowed to work. This is to cover their asses legally because they are paying the players through a single intermediary and there is publicly available video of the players working. I would be shocked if they were not sticklers on the work visa issue.
I only ask because if getting a passport is anything like trying to get a visa, these things take time. Only a week removed from GG, this has either been in the works for awhile or No Bueno
On June 08 2013 08:21 Cixah wrote: I only ask because if getting a passport is anything like trying to get a visa, these things take time. Only a week removed from GG, this has either been in the works for awhile or No Bueno
Maybe he waited until all the legal stuff is done so that he is on the safe side before he leaves Gambit. I surely hope so.
On June 08 2013 08:21 Cixah wrote: I only ask because if getting a passport is anything like trying to get a visa, these things take time. Only a week removed from GG, this has either been in the works for awhile or No Bueno
It might not fall under H1b status. I think there are different channels for sporting professionals to go through. H1b visas can take a while, others can be quicker. I got all my student shit (F1 visa) sorted very quickly, in fact it only took a couple of days for my student visa to get approved after I had obtained the necessary paperwork. It could fall under h1b (standard work visa), but I'm fairly sure there are other visas that would be better suited, which also have the benefit of taking far less time
On June 08 2013 08:21 Cixah wrote: I only ask because if getting a passport is anything like trying to get a visa, these things take time. Only a week removed from GG, this has either been in the works for awhile or No Bueno
It might not fall under H1b status. I think there are different channels for sporting professionals to go through. H1b visas can take a while, others can be quicker. I got all my student shit (F1 visa) sorted very quickly, in fact it only took a couple of days for my student visa to get approved after I had obtained the necessary paperwork. It could fall under h1b (standard work visa), but I'm fairly sure there are other visas that would be better suited, which also have the benefit of taking far less time
According to Agent this wasn't a long term plan (Source)
Employment First Preference (E1): Priority Workers A First Preference applicant must be the beneficiary of an approved Immigrant Petition for Foreign Worker, Form I-140, filed with USCIS. Labor certification is not required for any of the Priority Worker subgroups. Priority Workers receive 28.6 percent of the yearly worldwide limit of employment-based immigrant visas.
There are three sub-groups within this category:
Persons with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics. Applicants in this category must have extensive documentation showing sustained national or international acclaim and recognition in their fields of expertise. Such applicants do not have to have specific job offers, so long as they are entering the U.S. to continue work in the fields in which they have extraordinary ability. Such applicants can file their own Immigrant Petitions for Alien Worker, Form I-140, with the USCIS.
international acclaim in his field fits, and athletics might be defined widely enough to encompass esports... would have to see more though. there's also seasonal worker, and people of exceptional abiltiy (outside of an H visa). I'd imagine a large organisation like curse wouldn't be entirely new to immigration law / had a lawyer on retainer that could sort it out.
On June 08 2013 09:05 Dgiese wrote: he could fall under this: + Show Spoiler +
Employment First Preference (E1): Priority Workers A First Preference applicant must be the beneficiary of an approved Immigrant Petition for Foreign Worker, Form I-140, filed with USCIS. Labor certification is not required for any of the Priority Worker subgroups. Priority Workers receive 28.6 percent of the yearly worldwide limit of employment-based immigrant visas.
There are three sub-groups within this category:
Persons with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics. Applicants in this category must have extensive documentation showing sustained national or international acclaim and recognition in their fields of expertise. Such applicants do not have to have specific job offers, so long as they are entering the U.S. to continue work in the fields in which they have extraordinary ability. Such applicants can file their own Immigrant Petitions for Alien Worker, Form I-140, with the USCIS.
international acclaim in his field fits, and athletics might be defined widely enough to encompass esports... would have to see more though.
If that works we that means the government recognizes esports. *crosses fingers so hard they break*
On June 08 2013 09:05 Dgiese wrote: he could fall under this: + Show Spoiler +
Employment First Preference (E1): Priority Workers A First Preference applicant must be the beneficiary of an approved Immigrant Petition for Foreign Worker, Form I-140, filed with USCIS. Labor certification is not required for any of the Priority Worker subgroups. Priority Workers receive 28.6 percent of the yearly worldwide limit of employment-based immigrant visas.
There are three sub-groups within this category:
Persons with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics. Applicants in this category must have extensive documentation showing sustained national or international acclaim and recognition in their fields of expertise. Such applicants do not have to have specific job offers, so long as they are entering the U.S. to continue work in the fields in which they have extraordinary ability. Such applicants can file their own Immigrant Petitions for Alien Worker, Form I-140, with the USCIS.
international acclaim in his field fits, and athletics might be defined widely enough to encompass esports... would have to see more though. there's also seasonal worker, and people of exceptional abiltiy (outside of an H visa). I'd imagine a large organisation like curse wouldn't be entirely new to immigration law / had a lawyer on retainer that could sort it out.
Surely tho he will at the least be able to play when he gets his visa. even if that is not by the first week of the LCS just means he joins them a few games in.
i mean, that one is just a part of the H1b (general work visa), there are other visa entirely that would probably be the best channel... like when foreign movie stars work in the US i imagine they dont go thru h1b stuff for a visa. similar situation for edward.
Disclaimer: I'm not an immigration lawyer.
edit - lcs starts what? a month from now? I'm sure that will be plenty of time for everything to get processed. The US visa system is a bureaucratic nightmare, but they have the ability to process high priority cases, or expedited cases extremely quickly. I'd imagine for how much money Crs is probably throwing at this guy, it's not a concern to pay for a good lawyer, and expedite whatever they can. It'd be like buying a Ferrari, and then worrying about the cost of gas.
On June 08 2013 09:05 Dgiese wrote: he could fall under this: + Show Spoiler +
Employment First Preference (E1): Priority Workers A First Preference applicant must be the beneficiary of an approved Immigrant Petition for Foreign Worker, Form I-140, filed with USCIS. Labor certification is not required for any of the Priority Worker subgroups. Priority Workers receive 28.6 percent of the yearly worldwide limit of employment-based immigrant visas.
There are three sub-groups within this category:
Persons with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics. Applicants in this category must have extensive documentation showing sustained national or international acclaim and recognition in their fields of expertise. Such applicants do not have to have specific job offers, so long as they are entering the U.S. to continue work in the fields in which they have extraordinary ability. Such applicants can file their own Immigrant Petitions for Alien Worker, Form I-140, with the USCIS.
international acclaim in his field fits, and athletics might be defined widely enough to encompass esports... would have to see more though. there's also seasonal worker, and people of exceptional abiltiy (outside of an H visa). I'd imagine a large organisation like curse wouldn't be entirely new to immigration law / had a lawyer on retainer that could sort it out.
Surely tho he will at the least be able to play when he gets his visa. even if that is not by the first week of the LCS just means he joins them a few games in.
Saint made a vlog where he states they will only have 1 day to practice with him before super week.
First of all, he couldn't have planned in advance because VISA's are country-specific. HOWEVER, since he has been to America before forS2 LCS (and was probably planning returning for other events) he can probably get a temp VISA from the American Embassy in Russia, and iron out the rest while he is here.
On June 08 2013 04:04 caelym wrote: Sometimes I wonder if Steve even cares about team cohesion and stability seeing as he's so trigger happy when new talents become free agents. I'm scared that Edward becomes the next voyboy (burnt out and dispirited) if the results aren't good initially. This is on the same level of wtf as the CLG changes but CLG's motive was more empathic because they made a good hard effort with their old roster.
such a debby downer nah , I see what you're saying though. But, tbh Edward is such a huge skill jump from Rhux in that position it's not even really debatable that this was a "bad" move. Even if "results aren't good"; no one is going to say "oh yeah, rhux would've been the better pick than edward". So as far as blowback from community is concerned; Curse is in the clear.
Also interesting point; how much do you think Curse picking up Edward had to do with learning how M5 thinks about the game; and how much of it has to do with just cuz edward is a good support? (not really directed at caelym; but to everyone)
I wasn't saying that getting edward is a bad move per se (he's very talented and smart). I just wanted to see rhux given more of a chance and see more effort into making the team better before buying someone new. Seeing hot new talent get picked up as soon as they're available isn't good for the team morale either.
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