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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 19:56:51
June 07 2013 19:56 GMT
#6201
My play is so volatile sometimes.. :D

One minute im a bronze demigod the next minute even their flames are the truth

Fuck it, i blame the 240MS and avg 18 FPS i get. YOLO.
Useless wet fish.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 07 2013 19:56 GMT
#6202
On June 08 2013 04:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 04:09 MoonBear wrote:
On June 08 2013 04:04 caelym wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if Steve even cares about team cohesion and stability seeing as he's so trigger happy when new talents become free agents. I'm scared that Edward becomes the next voyboy (burnt out and dispirited) if the results aren't good initially. This is on the same level of wtf as the CLG changes but CLG's motive was more empathic because they made a good hard effort with their old roster.

Perhaps my speculation is leading me to overthink this, but I wonder if Curse having such deep pockets to pick up anyone they want is perhaps a factor. A lot of teams can think "Hey that would be kinda cool, but we don't really have the money. Was a cute thought let's focus back to reality." I wonder if Curse is trigger happy because they can afford to do so? Sort of like a large firm that has lots of funds avaliable so goes on merger and acquisition sprees without proper consideration and due diligence about the overall business strategy.


Not to contradict your actual point, but the analogy is flawed. Larger firms tend to have much stronger due diligence than smaller ones.

Let's say a company with more money than sense then. But yeah hopefully the point came across alright.

Also, you'd be surprised at the level of due diligence at some companies. (Hewlett Packard and Autonomy being a recent example.)
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 07 2013 19:57 GMT
#6203
On June 08 2013 04:56 Capped wrote:
One minute im a bronze demigod the next minute even their flames are the truth


This is hilarious. Also, I know dat feel.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 07 2013 19:58 GMT
#6204
+ Show Spoiler +
Leaving Gambit Gaming was a a very hard decision for me. I've been thinking about it for awhile and finally decided it was time. I'm very glad for the time I spent with these guys for almost 2 years. Leaving the team in which you played for more than a year and a half is always hard, and I feel like I lost a part of my family. Gambit changed me, changed for the better. I want to say a special thank you to two players and friends (Alex_ich and Darien). I love you guys , and of course thanks to Groove - my second dad.

Becoming a free agent, I was contacted by many different teams and it's not just America and Europe. I was a little surprised by this, but decided Team Curse was the best fit for me. I'm ready to join a new team and prove that it was the right call. The first weeks of our games will be difficult, because I haven't played with them and I have a little trouble with the English language, but eventually everything will improve and we will be a strong team.


If we can trust this, some team in Asia also approached Eddie :O
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 07 2013 20:02 GMT
#6205
So it wasn't some elaborate troll.... wtf Curse is now stacked
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 07 2013 20:04 GMT
#6206
On June 08 2013 04:58 AsnSensation wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Leaving Gambit Gaming was a a very hard decision for me. I've been thinking about it for awhile and finally decided it was time. I'm very glad for the time I spent with these guys for almost 2 years. Leaving the team in which you played for more than a year and a half is always hard, and I feel like I lost a part of my family. Gambit changed me, changed for the better. I want to say a special thank you to two players and friends (Alex_ich and Darien). I love you guys , and of course thanks to Groove - my second dad.

Becoming a free agent, I was contacted by many different teams and it's not just America and Europe. I was a little surprised by this, but decided Team Curse was the best fit for me. I'm ready to join a new team and prove that it was the right call. The first weeks of our games will be difficult, because I haven't played with them and I have a little trouble with the English language, but eventually everything will improve and we will be a strong team.


If we can trust this, some team in Asia also approached Eddie :O

Man, and we thought the language barrier for Russian and English would be hard lol, at least he speaks some English.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 07 2013 20:04 GMT
#6207
Does anyone remember where they put a list of all the champs base/lvl 18 stats in a nice,sortable, table?
Freeeeeeedom
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 07 2013 20:06 GMT
#6208
On June 08 2013 05:04 cLutZ wrote:
Does anyone remember where they put a list of all the champs base/lvl 18 stats in a nice,sortable, table?


http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Champion_statistics_at_level_18
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Base_champion_statistics

That's the quickest one I found. =P
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 20:11:04
June 07 2013 20:08 GMT
#6209
Stuff like those tables? You can generally find them with that URL pattern, or at worse a link at the end of the stat's page.
Oh crap Asmo beat me. Fiddle's range is weird, and... didn't know Anivia and Zilean had so much, explains why it's so easy for them to auto harass.

On June 08 2013 04:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 04:25 Alaric wrote:
Think I found what doesn't click between Sona and me (apart from the W bug, not even surprised learning it since I never felt any impact from hitting it). Not only she's got all that invisible power through auras, her heal is pretty weak and her E's utility is less visible than, say, Orianna's W's, but her ult doesn't suit itself to "flashy" stuff unless you're playing on a very aggro comp and coordinated with them.
There are those champs who set up stuff, for example when you nail somebody with Leona, or hit that flash ult/Q that protects your carries, there are those who interrupt/counteract enemy actions and are visible through that, Soraka's E on the Akali that just dove your backline, or Janna's whole kit where you see what she did because she reacted to another action.
Sona's ult as a counter-initiation/defensive tool tends to prevent things from happening, so you can only appreciate how good/bad a given ult is if you already understand the situation and how it unfolds. Amumu ults your whole team, you ult theirs as they come, you see it through Amumu's play more than yours. Zac/Malphite initiates onto your team with Ori ball and misses you, and you get a 4-man Crescendo that prevents a devantasting Command:Shockwave follow-up, that was a super good ult, but because it was basically just 2 champs casting a spell, and the rest being cc'd, it's a bit of a "nothing happens" and you need to be aware of the Ori ball and what would have happened without the Sona ult to understand that it's good.

I'm pretty bad at using my brain in the spur of the moment, so maybe that's why I can tell a good Sona play when spectating or being in the backline, but when playing her I'm unable to tell if I'm playing good or bad because I fail to see my impact regardless. >>

On June 08 2013 03:33 gtrsrs wrote:
damn, poor rhux
back to rhux city for him

i'm gonna be the devil's advocate and say that this doesn't work out, neither initially nor in the long run. can't see another alpha-male being very compatible with saint, especially if he's yelling at him in a different language. crs has a bad start, they blame cop, replace cop with... rhux?, rhux doesn't work out on AD either, the season closes, curse is up for relegation, they survive relegation and then ditch edward and have to find a new bot lane entirely

I wouldn't even mind it too much. I mean, Dignitas already have enough to sort out by themselves, now imagine if on top of that the other teams enhance their roster/game... Gyabo. t_t

So verbose.

Never change, Alaric. Never change.

Been having a few job interviews these weeks. I let you imagine how they go.
(And it wasn't about "I dunno when to ult as Sona", more "I feel like I have no impact in teamfights with her, been wondering and now I think it's because a good ult isn't necessarily flashy the way Leo/Lulu/Janna can be".)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 07 2013 20:15 GMT
#6210
Good Sona ults are as flashy as a good Leona ult. She just doesn't dive in afterwards and maul everyone like a boss.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 07 2013 20:19 GMT
#6211
sona is typically stronger than leona if you dont have a specific target to insta gib
a lot mroe damage and the heal is underrated because of the low cd and high resist boost its like a second bulwark
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 07 2013 20:28 GMT
#6212
On June 08 2013 05:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 05:04 cLutZ wrote:
Does anyone remember where they put a list of all the champs base/lvl 18 stats in a nice,sortable, table?


http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Champion_statistics_at_level_18
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Base_champion_statistics

That's the quickest one I found. =P


That feeling you get when your suspicions about Nautilus's item dependency are confirmed.
Freeeeeeedom
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 07 2013 20:28 GMT
#6213
It really depends, bruisers and assasins really appreciate having someone else tanky to go in with them into a teamfight, which Leona does quite brilliantly. Leona ultimates are awesome for initiating too, it's not almost-instant unlike Sona, but the range is larger and it is not impossible to hit if you are able to herd the enemy team somewhere, pushing them around threatening to initiate.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 07 2013 20:30 GMT
#6214
Leona towerdives better. That's all I need.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
June 07 2013 20:31 GMT
#6215
On June 08 2013 01:37 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 00:36 JonGalt wrote:
I really would like MMR/LP/Elo/League System to be a banned topic. Poll anyone? Can't do it on my blackberry.

Maybe if someone who understood the system the best made a thread it could all migrate there. Or take it to QQ. I only want to read drama, knowledge bombs, and pokemon in the GD thread

Edit: And it's been beaten to fuckin' death. Hecarim is upset for how much we beat that dead horse.

Anti-skin fascist.
(And I wasn't discussing LP gain or anything of the sort, felt like a knee-jerk reaction to see everyone talk about banning LP/MMR/"promo hell" discussions. :/)


I think you were just as they say, the straw that broke the camel's back. There has been a lot of LP talk lately seems - and it's getting old.

And there is a thread for skins

On June 08 2013 03:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:
AW MAN DO I HAVE TO REDO THE HYPE THREAD NAO?!

+ Show Spoiler +
lol no, next season... there's no guarantee the roster won't change again


I updated TSM's for WildTurtle.

Just sayin.



Poser.

+ Show Spoiler [For Asmo ONLY] +
<3 I'm scared of Curse now + Show Spoiler [For everyone BUT Asmo] +
TSM's gonna crush them. Baylife!!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 07 2013 20:49 GMT
#6216
On June 08 2013 05:31 JonGalt wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [For Asmo ONLY] +
<3 I'm scared of Curse now + Show Spoiler [For everyone BUT Asmo] +
TSM's gonna crush them. Baylife!!


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WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 21:01:05
June 07 2013 20:56 GMT
#6217
On June 08 2013 05:30 Alaric wrote:
Leona towerdives better. That's all I need.


You like to towerdive and don't play Alistar??

Alistar is amazing...insane tower dives, best carry protection not named Janna, and initiates at will if not needed to peel. He's not seen much now but that guy is ridiculous.

EDIT: and nothing says flashy like POUND MY FISTS IN THE GROUND, MAKE 3+ GUYS FLY IN THE AIR, AND ROAR TO BREAK YOUR PUSSY CHARM/STUN BY SHEER FORCE OF WILL
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 07 2013 20:58 GMT
#6218
On June 08 2013 04:42 zer0das wrote:
That was a pretty long, self contradicting post that boiled down to "I can't determine when to ult as Sona."


Basically Sona has one of the best ults in the game and can be used in a variety of different situations.

Play maybe 50 games, learn when to hit that R button. I always pretend its one of those little gauge things in video games where you have to press the button when the little needle is in the hot zone for maximum effect.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 21:09:53
June 07 2013 21:09 GMT
#6219
On June 08 2013 04:04 caelym wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if Steve even cares about team cohesion and stability seeing as he's so trigger happy when new talents become free agents. I'm scared that Edward becomes the next voyboy (burnt out and dispirited) if the results aren't good initially. This is on the same level of wtf as the CLG changes but CLG's motive was more empathic because they made a good hard effort with their old roster.

such a debby downer
nah , I see what you're saying though. But, tbh Edward is such a huge skill jump from Rhux in that position it's not even really debatable that this was a "bad" move. Even if "results aren't good"; no one is going to say "oh yeah, rhux would've been the better pick than edward". So as far as blowback from community is concerned; Curse is in the clear.

Also interesting point; how much do you think Curse picking up Edward had to do with learning how M5 thinks about the game; and how much of it has to do with just cuz edward is a good support? (not really directed at caelym; but to everyone)
liftlift > tsm
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
June 07 2013 21:15 GMT
#6220
On June 08 2013 06:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 04:04 caelym wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if Steve even cares about team cohesion and stability seeing as he's so trigger happy when new talents become free agents. I'm scared that Edward becomes the next voyboy (burnt out and dispirited) if the results aren't good initially. This is on the same level of wtf as the CLG changes but CLG's motive was more empathic because they made a good hard effort with their old roster.

such a debby downer
nah , I see what you're saying though. But, tbh Edward is such a huge skill jump from Rhux in that position it's not even really debatable that this was a "bad" move. Even if "results aren't good"; no one is going to say "oh yeah, rhux would've been the better pick than edward". So as far as blowback from community is concerned; Curse is in the clear.

Also interesting point; how much do you think Curse picking up Edward had to do with learning how M5 thinks about the game; and how much of it has to do with just cuz edward is a good support? (not really directed at caelym; but to everyone)


Also, I've heard multiple times that Cop is eager to learn but that he has no support that has the ability to do so, and Edward can surely do that.

Some people might think he can't because he is bad English, but if you watched his streams back in the day he was actually pretty good at English and very understandable.
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