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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3 If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:04 caelym wrote: Sometimes I wonder if Steve even cares about team cohesion and stability seeing as he's so trigger happy when new talents become free agents. I'm scared that Edward becomes the next voyboy (burnt out and dispirited) if the results aren't good initially. This is on the same level of wtf as the CLG changes but CLG's motive was more empathic because they made a good hard effort with their old roster. Is Voyboy burnt out and dispirited? T_T | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:04 caelym wrote: Sometimes I wonder if Steve even cares about team cohesion and stability seeing as he's so trigger happy when new talents become free agents. I'm scared that Edward becomes the next voyboy (burnt out and dispirited) if the results aren't good initially. This is on the same level of wtf as the CLG changes but CLG's motive was more empathic because they made a good hard effort with their old roster. Perhaps my speculation is leading me to overthink this, but I wonder if Curse having such deep pockets to pick up anyone they want is perhaps a factor. A lot of teams can think "Hey that would be kinda cool, but we don't really have the money. Was a cute thought let's focus back to reality." I wonder if Curse is trigger happy because they can afford to do so? Sort of like a large firm that has lots of funds avaliable so goes on merger and acquisition sprees without proper consideration and due diligence about the overall business strategy. I also wonder if it says that the team's belief is that their problems are one of talent and raw skill rather than other issues such as co-ordination and their fundamental way of just thinking about the game. So they think about acquiring talent rather than working with what they have. | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:04 caelym wrote: Sometimes I wonder if Steve even cares about team cohesion and stability seeing as he's so trigger happy when new talents become free agents. I'm scared that Edward becomes the next voyboy (burnt out and dispirited) if the results aren't good initially. This is on the same level of wtf as the CLG changes but CLG's motive was more empathic because they made a good hard effort with their old roster. Anywhere you can point to for me to read more on Voyboy? Always thought he was pretty happy playing pro. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:04 caelym wrote: Sometimes I wonder if Steve even cares about team cohesion and stability seeing as he's so trigger happy when new talents become free agents. I'm scared that Edward becomes the next voyboy (burnt out and dispirited) if the results aren't good initially. This is on the same level of wtf as the CLG changes but CLG's motive was more empathic because they made a good hard effort with their old roster. Curse has gone through a lot of roster changes, but since picking up Voy they had been pretty stable. Voy was a huge improvement over Westrice and I'd say it worked out for them overall. I was a pretty big Rhux apologist but it's clear his heart is in Top lane, not Support. In terms of individual skill Edward is a huge improvement over Rhux and Elementz, Liquid is a smart business man, he knew he couldn't let an opportunity pass him by like this. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:09 Jojo131 wrote: Anywhere you can point to for me to read more on Voyboy? Always thought he was pretty happy playing pro. he's referring to voyboy on CLG, not voyboy on curse | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:17 gtrsrs wrote: he's referring to voyboy on CLG, not voyboy on curse Phew, was hoping that was the case. -_- | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
There are those champs who set up stuff, for example when you nail somebody with Leona, or hit that flash ult/Q that protects your carries, there are those who interrupt/counteract enemy actions and are visible through that, Soraka's E on the Akali that just dove your backline, or Janna's whole kit where you see what she did because she reacted to another action. Sona's ult as a counter-initiation/defensive tool tends to prevent things from happening, so you can only appreciate how good/bad a given ult is if you already understand the situation and how it unfolds. Amumu ults your whole team, you ult theirs as they come, you see it through Amumu's play more than yours. Zac/Malphite initiates onto your team with Ori ball and misses you, and you get a 4-man Crescendo that prevents a devantasting Command:Shockwave follow-up, that was a super good ult, but because it was basically just 2 champs casting a spell, and the rest being cc'd, it's a bit of a "nothing happens" and you need to be aware of the Ori ball and what would have happened without the Sona ult to understand that it's good. I'm pretty bad at using my brain in the spur of the moment, so maybe that's why I can tell a good Sona play when spectating or being in the backline, but when playing her I'm unable to tell if I'm playing good or bad because I fail to see my impact regardless. >> On June 08 2013 03:33 gtrsrs wrote: damn, poor rhux back to rhux city for him i'm gonna be the devil's advocate and say that this doesn't work out, neither initially nor in the long run. can't see another alpha-male being very compatible with saint, especially if he's yelling at him in a different language. crs has a bad start, they blame cop, replace cop with... rhux?, rhux doesn't work out on AD either, the season closes, curse is up for relegation, they survive relegation and then ditch edward and have to find a new bot lane entirely I wouldn't even mind it too much. I mean, Dignitas already have enough to sort out by themselves, now imagine if on top of that the other teams enhance their roster/game... Gyabo. t_t | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:09 MoonBear wrote: Perhaps my speculation is leading me to overthink this, but I wonder if Curse having such deep pockets to pick up anyone they want is perhaps a factor. A lot of teams can think "Hey that would be kinda cool, but we don't really have the money. Was a cute thought let's focus back to reality." I wonder if Curse is trigger happy because they can afford to do so? Sort of like a large firm that has lots of funds avaliable so goes on merger and acquisition sprees without proper consideration and due diligence about the overall business strategy. Not to contradict your actual point, but the analogy is flawed. Larger firms tend to have much stronger due diligence than smaller ones. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:24 caelym wrote: I don't know if voy got his mojo back now but he was dispirited and unhappy for a lot of the spring split. Anyway you start to why I don't agree with curse's team management... T_T NOOOO. Voyboy... =( | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Not to contradict your actual point, but the analogy is flawed. Larger firms tend to have much stronger due diligence than smaller ones. LoL clearly needs a salary cap. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 07 2013 21:31 AsmodeusXI wrote: I can see a Legendary Udyr skin being over-the-top badass. It could also just be Primal+, which would be sad, but I have confidence in Riot's artists. As far as overall trends go, I'm fine with them beating the "Justicar/Arclight/Celestine" idea to DEATH because (with the exception of the rather mediocre looking Justicar Aatrox) they are all FUCKING FANTASTIC. wtb Justicar Diana pls (or Irelia... FUCK THAT'D BE COOL) I'd be almost 100% certain if they released Primal Udyr today it'd be legendary tbh. Skin was a few steps ahead of other skins released at the time | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:25 Alaric wrote: + Show Spoiler + Think I found what doesn't click between Sona and me (apart from the W bug, not even surprised learning it since I never felt any impact from hitting it). Not only she's got all that invisible power through auras, her heal is pretty weak and her E's utility is less visible than, say, Orianna's W's, but her ult doesn't suit itself to "flashy" stuff unless you're playing on a very aggro comp and coordinated with them. There are those champs who set up stuff, for example when you nail somebody with Leona, or hit that flash ult/Q that protects your carries, there are those who interrupt/counteract enemy actions and are visible through that, Soraka's E on the Akali that just dove your backline, or Janna's whole kit where you see what she did because she reacted to another action. Sona's ult as a counter-initiation/defensive tool tends to prevent things from happening, so you can only appreciate how good/bad a given ult is if you already understand the situation and how it unfolds. Amumu ults your whole team, you ult theirs as they come, you see it through Amumu's play more than yours. Zac/Malphite initiates onto your team with Ori ball and misses you, and you get a 4-man Crescendo that prevents a devantasting Command:Shockwave follow-up, that was a super good ult, but because it was basically just 2 champs casting a spell, and the rest being cc'd, it's a bit of a "nothing happens" and you need to be aware of the Ori ball and what would have happened without the Sona ult to understand that it's good. I'm pretty bad at using my brain in the spur of the moment, so maybe that's why I can tell a good Sona play when spectating or being in the backline, but when playing her I'm unable to tell if I'm playing good or bad because I fail to see my impact regardless. >> On June 08 2013 03:33 gtrsrs wrote: damn, poor rhux back to rhux city for him i'm gonna be the devil's advocate and say that this doesn't work out, neither initially nor in the long run. can't see another alpha-male being very compatible with saint, especially if he's yelling at him in a different language. crs has a bad start, they blame cop, replace cop with... rhux?, rhux doesn't work out on AD either, the season closes, curse is up for relegation, they survive relegation and then ditch edward and have to find a new bot lane entirely I wouldn't even mind it too much. I mean, Dignitas already have enough to sort out by themselves, now imagine if on top of that the other teams enhance their roster/game... Gyabo. t_t I like what you say about Sona. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 08 2013 04:25 Alaric wrote: Think I found what doesn't click between Sona and me (apart from the W bug, not even surprised learning it since I never felt any impact from hitting it). Not only she's got all that invisible power through auras, her heal is pretty weak and her E's utility is less visible than, say, Orianna's W's, but her ult doesn't suit itself to "flashy" stuff unless you're playing on a very aggro comp and coordinated with them. There are those champs who set up stuff, for example when you nail somebody with Leona, or hit that flash ult/Q that protects your carries, there are those who interrupt/counteract enemy actions and are visible through that, Soraka's E on the Akali that just dove your backline, or Janna's whole kit where you see what she did because she reacted to another action. Sona's ult as a counter-initiation/defensive tool tends to prevent things from happening, so you can only appreciate how good/bad a given ult is if you already understand the situation and how it unfolds. Amumu ults your whole team, you ult theirs as they come, you see it through Amumu's play more than yours. Zac/Malphite initiates onto your team with Ori ball and misses you, and you get a 4-man Crescendo that prevents a devantasting Command:Shockwave follow-up, that was a super good ult, but because it was basically just 2 champs casting a spell, and the rest being cc'd, it's a bit of a "nothing happens" and you need to be aware of the Ori ball and what would have happened without the Sona ult to understand that it's good. I'm pretty bad at using my brain in the spur of the moment, so maybe that's why I can tell a good Sona play when spectating or being in the backline, but when playing her I'm unable to tell if I'm playing good or bad because I fail to see my impact regardless. >> I wouldn't even mind it too much. I mean, Dignitas already have enough to sort out by themselves, now imagine if on top of that the other teams enhance their roster/game... Gyabo. t_t So verbose. Never change, Alaric. Never change. | ||
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