EPTi was thinking about getting justicar syndra but the new textures on the orbs throw me off
also i don't know what a justicar is and it sounds dumb
justicar and dishonestruck
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i was thinking about getting justicar syndra but the new textures on the orbs throw me off also i don't know what a justicar is and it sounds dumb justicar and dishonestruck | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
The word "Justicar" also means "man of justice" i.e a judge. On June 07 2013 23:36 onlywonderboy wrote: Also I'm not sure why everyone is so worried that Edward and Cop's playstyle won't mesh. Genja and Cop play pretty similarly, which is more passive and safe than Doublelift or WildTurtle. If Edward was able to carry Genja he should be able to carry Cop too. Although NA Bot lanes are a bit stronger than EU overall. Edward left Gambit partly because he didn't mesh well with Genja. So the current playstyle of Cop isn't a problem, but for such a botlane to work, what is important is if Cop would be willing/able to adjust to Edward's style. On June 07 2013 23:37 thenexusp wrote: IMO, you shouldn't worry about not getting evenly matched up with your opponents. If you get matched with better opponents, the system compensates by subtracting less MMR when you lose / adding more MMR when you win. There's nothing inherent about the system that requires even matchmaking to work. If you don't like it because you can't win, stahp caring about wins and start caring more about your own self improvement :\ Why do you assume it's about winning? Screw Elo, screw LP, it's just that such a discrepancy makes the game much more likely to be a stomp, and there's a distinct lack of fun to that. There's not much to do, you can try your best, etc. (and I certainly could have played better than one game and noticed my bad decisions, for example), but it's still a one-sided stomp where you can't even start and try to compete because of how the game goes (unless the enemy team just throws immensely, which isn't satisfying either because if you care about the win, you didn't earn it, and if you care about improving, there's nothing particular that you did that was "good"). Granted, you obviously don't get a case such as that game I had (3 people in promo series on one team, none on the other) every other game, but considering the implications in terms of matchmaking I'm just concerned by the possibility that it occurs. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:10 kainzero wrote: mmr/league discussion pls no i was thinking about getting justicar syndra but the new textures on the orbs throw me off also i don't know what a justicar is and it sounds dumb justicar and dishonestruck Justicar = Just-a-car | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
Those are the worst | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:01 Swords wrote: To me, the problem with this isn't that they won't be able to play together well, it's that Edward hated Genja's playstyle. Edward likes aggression, Cop/Genja like to be passive. Edward can certainly play that style, but when part of his problem with GG was he didn't like playing passively it doesn't bode well for laning with Cop. Is this based on an interview or something, or just speculation? I was under the impression he didn't like Genja as a person and it was more of a personality clash than a gameplay one. Edit: On the Facebook post he said it was a mix of them not adapting to each other's playstyle as well as not enjoying the team atmosphere anymore, so it was both I guess. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On June 07 2013 22:35 Lylat wrote: Meh, don't think Cop is an upgrade at all, don't know why Genja gets so much hate.. Maybe because he's the less good player in the team ? I'd argue that Darien looked like the weakest player in GG last season I like Wei2 but it's getting rather annoying to read at least twice a weak how NA carries supposedly >>> their european peers Call me biased since I'm european but yeah I'll give God aka Doublelift >>> any EU AD but the rest hasn't shown anything significant that warrants a NA ad > Eu ad generalisation. By significant I mean an apparent skillgap between e.g. Froggen, Peke and Bjergsen (alex has been rather derpy since week 10 of lcs and at allstars) compared to NA Mids. And even that statement might be so true anymore, while we make fun of reginald in LR threads for his shitty tf mechanics or randomy 1v1 deaths, he is still carrying tsm hard with arguably less practice ( not sure how much he plays the game compared the rest since he has many solomid.net commitments. ManCloud and Link look really solid, as well. To come back to NA ad's, none of the "new guys" (turtle, Nien, Zuna, Mashme etc) will get credit in my book unless they've proven themselves in international matches like Doublelift and (rather unsuccesfully) qtpie and Cop. Sry but I just don't see how it's so easy to say that they are >>Genja, Yellowstar, Rekkles, Candypanda, Yellowpete and the other guys. So calling Cop and improvement to Genja is really hilarious since both play the same pussy style but apparently Genja is Gambit's pick/bans mastermind and partly shotcaller. Anyways, CRS EDWARD PLS | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Maybe if someone who understood the system the best made a thread it could all migrate there. Or take it to QQ. I only want to read drama, knowledge bombs, and pokemon in the GD thread  Edit: And it's been beaten to fuckin' death. Hecarim is upset for how much we beat that dead horse. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:36 AsnSensation wrote: I like Wei2 but it's getting rather annoying to read at least twice a weak how NA carries supposedly >>> their european peers Call me biased since I'm european but yeah I'll give God aka Doublelift >>> any EU AD but the rest hasn't shown anything significant that warrants a NA ad > Eu ad generalisation. By significant I mean an apparent skillgap between e.g. Froggen, Peke and Bjergsen (alex has been rather derpy since week 10 of lcs and at allstars) compared to NA Mids. And even that statement might be so true anymore, while we make fun of reginald in LR threads for his shitty tf mechanics or randomy 1v1 deaths, he is still carrying tsm hard with arguably less practice ( not sure how much he plays the game compared the rest since he has many solomid.net commitments. ManCloud and Link look really solid, as well. To come back to NA ad's, none of the "new guys" (turtle, Nien, Zuna, Mashme etc) will get credit in my book unless they've proven themselves in international matches like Doublelift and (rather unsuccesfully) qtpie and Cop. Sry but I just don't see how it's so easy to say that they are >>Genja, Yellowstar, Rekkles, Candypanda, Yellowpete and the other guys. So calling Cop and improvement to Genja is really hilarious since both play the same pussy style but apparently Genja is Gambit's pick/bans mastermind and partly shotcaller. Anyways, CRS EDWARD PLS Sadly we can't base everyone on head to head results now that international tournaments are so few and far between. I generally get the sense NA Bot lanes are stronger because I see them carry LCS games more often than EU ADCs. But that might just because EU Mid laners are so strong they are just able to carry before the ADCs really get a chance to shine. Unfortunately there is no hard data to support either side so all of these opinions are just based on personal views and assessments. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote: Wiki says: wiki says: Justiciar From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Justicar) In medieval England and Scotland the Chief Justiciar (later known simply as the Justiciar) was roughly equivalent to a modern Prime Minister[citation needed] as the monarch's chief minister. in other words this word sucks | ||
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Gahlo
United States35160 Posts
Poll: Should the ranking system be a valid top in GD? DEMACIA! (23) No. (10) Absolutely, I'm super dumb. (6) Yes, I'm dumb. (2) Maybe. (2) 43 total votes Your vote: Should the ranking system be a valid top in GD? (Vote): No. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:40 kainzero wrote: wiki says: in other words this word sucks Justicar's in Mass Effect lore are pretty beast. + Show Spoiler + A justicar is an asari who has forsworn having children and family and given up all worldly possessions aside from weapons and armor. After swearing themselves to the Code of the justicars, they wander asari space righting wrongs, as defined by their unwavering code of justice | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:23 Alaric wrote: Wiki says: Edward left Gambit partly because he didn't mesh well with Genja. So the current playstyle of Cop isn't a problem, but for such a botlane to work, what is important is if Cop would be willing/able to adjust to Edward's style. Why do you assume it's about winning? Screw Elo, screw LP, it's just that such a discrepancy makes the game much more likely to be a stomp, and there's a distinct lack of fun to that. There's not much to do, you can try your best, etc. (and I certainly could have played better than one game and noticed my bad decisions, for example), but it's still a one-sided stomp where you can't even start and try to compete because of how the game goes (unless the enemy team just throws immensely, which isn't satisfying either because if you care about the win, you didn't earn it, and if you care about improving, there's nothing particular that you did that was "good"). Granted, you obviously don't get a case such as that game I had (3 people in promo series on one team, none on the other) every other game, but considering the implications in terms of matchmaking I'm just concerned by the possibility that it occurs. Also, rereading your previous post, Silver III vs Gold V (the only differences between the teams that I could see) isn't even necessarily an unwinnable stomp, unless you used lolnexus before the game and got discouraged before the game even started, and therefore didn't play to your fullest extent. At worst your chance of winning was like 30%. EDIT: Or did you mean you had 4x Silver III's? Even then, the difference between top-silver III (they were in promos) and Silver I is like 100 elo, people can swing that much in a single day. It's really easy to throw in the towel prematurely just because lolnexus told you the other team is stronger, and lose the game because you're not really trying, confirming your beliefs that the other team was bound to win. There's a reason why lol doesn't show your opponent's borders on the loading screen. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:42 Gahlo wrote: 100% legit poll. Neo, the choice is clear.+ Show Spoiler + Justicar != Justiciar Poll: Should the ranking system be a valid top in GD? DEMACIA! (23) No. (10) Absolutely, I'm super dumb. (6) Yes, I'm dumb. (2) Maybe. (2) 43 total votes Your vote: Should the ranking system be a valid top in GD? (Vote): No. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Edit: Thanks Ghalo for setting up that poll. I am gonna owe so many esport dollars to so many people with all my "wtb poll" posts over the next 18 (but who's counting?) months. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:36 AsnSensation wrote: I like Wei2 but it's getting rather annoying to read at least twice a weak how NA carries supposedly >>> their european peers Call me biased since I'm european but yeah I'll give God aka Doublelift >>> any EU AD but the rest hasn't shown anything significant that warrants a NA ad > Eu ad generalisation. By significant I mean an apparent skillgap between e.g. Froggen, Peke and Bjergsen (alex has been rather derpy since week 10 of lcs and at allstars) compared to NA Mids. And even that statement might be so true anymore, while we make fun of reginald in LR threads for his shitty tf mechanics or randomy 1v1 deaths, he is still carrying tsm hard with arguably less practice ( not sure how much he plays the game compared the rest since he has many solomid.net commitments. ManCloud and Link look really solid, as well. To come back to NA ad's, none of the "new guys" (turtle, Nien, Zuna, Mashme etc) will get credit in my book unless they've proven themselves in international matches like Doublelift and (rather unsuccesfully) qtpie and Cop. Sry but I just don't see how it's so easy to say that they are >>Genja, Yellowstar, Rekkles, Candypanda, Yellowpete and the other guys. So calling Cop and improvement to Genja is really hilarious since both play the same pussy style but apparently Genja is Gambit's pick/bans mastermind and partly shotcaller. Anyways, CRS EDWARD PLS Don't bother, wei2coolman's not here to discuss the relative assessment of Cop and Genja as AD carries, but here to spread his agenda across, so there's almost no use in debating the issue with him because his mind is already made up. I've called wei2coolman out on his tendencies to spread his agenda across rather than promoting in-depth discussions, and went in painstaking detail in order to ask him to back his statements up with specific games from which he extrapolated his opinions from. It turns out he is content with re-iterating what Doublelift says during his trash-talks and putting faith in them to almost a religious degree. He doesn't need proof apart from his own beliefs, and certainly doesn't think it's necessary convince others by putting forth a worthwhile discussion because it might be detrimental to his drum-beating. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:40 onlywonderboy wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2013 00:36 AsnSensation wrote: I like Wei2 but it's getting rather annoying to read at least twice a weak how NA carries supposedly >>> their european peers Call me biased since I'm european but yeah I'll give God aka Doublelift >>> any EU AD but the rest hasn't shown anything significant that warrants a NA ad > Eu ad generalisation. By significant I mean an apparent skillgap between e.g. Froggen, Peke and Bjergsen (alex has been rather derpy since week 10 of lcs and at allstars) compared to NA Mids. And even that statement might be so true anymore, while we make fun of reginald in LR threads for his shitty tf mechanics or randomy 1v1 deaths, he is still carrying tsm hard with arguably less practice ( not sure how much he plays the game compared the rest since he has many solomid.net commitments. ManCloud and Link look really solid, as well. To come back to NA ad's, none of the "new guys" (turtle, Nien, Zuna, Mashme etc) will get credit in my book unless they've proven themselves in international matches like Doublelift and (rather unsuccesfully) qtpie and Cop. Sry but I just don't see how it's so easy to say that they are >>Genja, Yellowstar, Rekkles, Candypanda, Yellowpete and the other guys. So calling Cop and improvement to Genja is really hilarious since both play the same pussy style but apparently Genja is Gambit's pick/bans mastermind and partly shotcaller. Anyways, CRS EDWARD PLS Sadly we can't base everyone on head to head results now that international tournaments are so few and far between. I generally get the sense NA Bot lanes are stronger because I see them carry LCS games more often than EU ADCs. But that might just because EU Mid laners are so strong they are just able to carry before the ADCs really get a chance to shine. Unfortunately there is no hard data to support either side so all of these opinions are just based on personal views and assessments. you're completely right, and that's why I think from now on we should refrain from saying X position of Y region is better than Region Z, because at the end of the day it's still a 5v5 game. Like I won't even argue that Doublelift is much better than Yellowpete currently but clg hasn't won a tournament since august 2011 or in general a good tournament finish which wasn't NA only, while under clg.eu Pete & friends had, I don't know how many top4 results + #1 kings of europe, Dreamhack and LonestarClash. You also just made me realize how 2 out curse, clg and Dig won't be able to go to worlds. ( I expect TSM to definitely qualify) Wouldn't even be surprised if it's TSM + C9/GGU going to worlds haha | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
We can safely say Korea is the best. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On June 08 2013 00:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote: 100% legit poll. Neo, the choice is clear. Pls ban Pokemon discussion | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 08 2013 01:05 TheYango wrote: Except for Korea. We can safely say Korea is the best. That's an agenda Letmelose can get behind! huehuehue | ||
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