EPTI feel so vindicated. All this time spent whining about how safe and retarded and dumb she is. And even though I played like shit, it still worked most of the time. She's so retardeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed! :[
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I feel so vindicated. All this time spent whining about how safe and retarded and dumb she is. And even though I played like shit, it still worked most of the time. She's so retardeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed! :[ | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Craton
United States17252 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On May 01 2013 10:47 Shikyo wrote: Yeah I really think her shield is just so stupid. Refreshing AoE shield, okay... At least Diana's is just for her and at least she's melee(though the shield still is retarded). It also is true that I don't get why her ult has like no cooldown when her snare AoE ult combo oneshots people from 1.2k range... many worse ults have twice the cooldown, wtf? Happy birthday! Also, I'll just agree with the consensus that the Lux shield seems too powerful. I'd like it if at the least the AP ratio was nerfed on it or the CD increased. | ||
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LaM
United States1321 Posts
Ahhh ketchup thank you! I remember now that you reminded me it was Twitch lmao. It was aznwiseguy. Haha, fuck that guy. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 01 2013 10:17 ketchup wrote: A long long time ago, there used to be a high elo twitch that everyone hated, and only played twitch. I believe his name was something along the lines of superaznguy or something equally generic like that. I cannot remember the name too well though. It's a bit difficult to search for, but maybe this might help someone else remember the name if it's the right person. its aznwiseguy isn't it? And thank you! One of these days I will pull off the remember-cooldown-of-an-enemy-targeted-skill-and-flash-the-moment-its-up-and-barely-win-trade | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
*which is good, if you nerf champions' strengths and buff their weaknesses, eventually you get 113 copies of the same champion | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On May 01 2013 10:44 Craton wrote: I mean, if you want to fix Lux, you give her ult the cooldown of a normal champion since it does the same damage as any other one at several thousand range. You also nerf the efficacy of her shield through multiple targets and the range of both Q and E. This would be true if it weren't for the fact that it's not. What was the reignofgaming article that listed the burst/sustained damage of all the conventional AP mids in a spreadsheet, and Lux was if I remember correctly 2nd to last in burst damage and last in sustained damage. Her damage is really low compared to other APs. It's just contained in a single very fast, hard to stop burst combo, and her shield is amazing. If you lowered her damage any more nobody would play her. I think Lux is in a very good place right now, personally. Edit: Here it is http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23264-ap-ratios-an-overview Lux 3rd from last in burst damage, dead last in sustained damage. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:09 Ketara wrote: This would be true if it weren't for the fact that it's not. What was the reignofgaming article that listed the burst/sustained damage of all the conventional AP mids in a spreadsheet, and Lux was if I remember correctly 2nd to last in burst damage and last in sustained damage. Her damage is really low compared to other APs. It's just contained in a single very fast, hard to stop burst combo, and her shield is amazing. If you lowered her damage any more nobody would play her. I think Lux is in a very good place right now, personally. Edit: Here it is http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23264-ap-ratios-an-overview Lux 3rd from last in burst damage, dead last in sustained damage. lol 'sustained' being 10 seconds. Wait another 20 seconds for her ult to be up way before any other AP carry, and see where she goes. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On May 01 2013 10:51 LaM wrote: Ahhh ketchup thank you! I remember now that you reminded me it was Twitch lmao. It was aznwiseguy. Haha, fuck that guy. Hahaha yea! That was the name! My memory filled with some really useless things | ||
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Celial
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Annie's is 180 + 85 + 200 = 465 + 35 DPS. At 625 range. Veigar is at the bottom half of burst. Legit and useful list imo. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On May 01 2013 09:23 thenexusp wrote: The only really must-have runes are armor yellows, since they open up the entire role of jungling for you. It's incredibly awkward to jungle without armor yellows except with the most durable of champions. But yeah, there's a reason why AD reds, armor yellows, and MR blues are in the cheapest price tier, and it's not because they're worse than the other ones. It's because Riot doesn't want there to be a huge barrier to getting a workable rune page while still having the IP sink there for those with too much IP and not enough energy regeneration per level runes. Pretty sure those runes have been priced as is for a long, long time. AD runes weren't always 'must have'(crit damage, and then arpen were just flat out better), and even armor yellows weren't mandatory on the few junglers who could jungle early in the game's life(although they were still very common). I'm fairly sure they were randomly priced at the beginning, and 'new' runes released since then have been pretty expensive with the exception of the gp10 ones. | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:29 h3r1n6 wrote: That lists "burst" is 5 seconds. This. I don't trust reign of gaming when it comes to theorycraft. Ever since that liandry's article I lost a ton of respect for their "math". | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:32 Phunkapotamus wrote: This. I don't trust reign of gaming when it comes to theorycraft. Ever since that liandry's article I lost a ton of respect for their "math". Even if the math is right I often disagree with the analysis. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:22 Shikyo wrote: At lvl 6 Lux's instant burst at 1000 range with 0 AP is 150 + 60 + 370 = 580. At 1000 range. Annie's is 180 + 85 + 200 = 465 + 35 DPS. At 625 range. Veigar is at the bottom half of burst. Legit and useful list imo. To be fair, Annie's level 6 burst is 180+85+200+70+80 = 615, counting the damage Tibbers does while you're stunned. It also has a higher AP ratio at 2.35 vs 2.05. There's probably a reason why as level 6 Lux vs level 6 Annie you give her the entire lane and hide behind your tower if you aren't already ahead by then. Lux's damage compared to other APs is low. Her advantage is safety and reliability of that damage, not the damage itself. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:22 Shikyo wrote: At lvl 6 Lux's instant burst at 1000 range with 0 AP is 150 + 60 + 370 = 580. At 1000 range. Annie's is 180 + 85 + 200 = 465 + 35 DPS. At 625 range. Veigar is at the bottom half of burst. Legit and useful list imo. Annie's burst is point-and-click though. | ||
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