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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 01 2013 01:33 GMT
#421
I haven't played Lux more than 3 times, maybe 4. The last one was months ago, if not a year. I randomly got her in ARAM.

I feel so vindicated. All this time spent whining about how safe and retarded and dumb she is. And even though I played like shit, it still worked most of the time. She's so retardeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed! :[
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 01:40:36
May 01 2013 01:38 GMT
#422
Imo Lux has one of the most retarded kits in the game. Not because of her ability to 1-shot people, but because of her stupid fucking shield. With max cdr, which Lux will always get, she basically has Udyr-levels of shielding except it's for the entire team and has higher shield hp. It's basically a lvl 2 Soraka ult that isn't reduced by ignite every 6 seconds. It just seems dumb to me that a champ that can easily 1-shot someone also has such high tankiness/utility.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 01 2013 01:44 GMT
#423
I mean, if you want to fix Lux, you give her ult the cooldown of a normal champion since it does the same damage as any other one at several thousand range. You also nerf the efficacy of her shield through multiple targets and the range of both Q and E.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 01 2013 01:47 GMT
#424
Yeah I really think her shield is just so stupid. Refreshing AoE shield, okay... At least Diana's is just for her and at least she's melee(though the shield still is retarded). It also is true that I don't get why her ult has like no cooldown when her snare AoE ult combo oneshots people from 1.2k range... many worse ults have twice the cooldown, wtf?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
May 01 2013 01:51 GMT
#425
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LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 01:55:23
May 01 2013 01:51 GMT
#426
On May 01 2013 10:21 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:17 ketchup wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:51 LaM wrote:
Ok this is the most random question I have ever asked, but does anybody remember that guy who was a high ELO player a few years ago (name azn something) and was known for raging. He switched to SC2 beta and was at the top for a little while (cheesed a shit ton). He played Pantheon (or something else, I remember it was 1 champ and it was a gay/snowbally champ) a lot I think.

I was just thinking of the people I hated playing against/with the most (guy was an asshole, but always snowballed when he was on the other team).

Uhh yeah.


A long long time ago, there used to be a high elo twitch that everyone hated, and only played twitch. I believe his name was something along the lines of superaznguy or something equally generic like that. I cannot remember the name too well though. It's a bit difficult to search for, but maybe this might help someone else remember the name if it's the right person.


Oh yeahhh I remember him.


Ahhh ketchup thank you! I remember now that you reminded me it was Twitch lmao. It was aznwiseguy. Haha, fuck that guy.
Anything is Possible
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:01:50
May 01 2013 01:57 GMT
#427
On May 01 2013 10:17 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 05:51 LaM wrote:
Ok this is the most random question I have ever asked, but does anybody remember that guy who was a high ELO player a few years ago (name azn something) and was known for raging. He switched to SC2 beta and was at the top for a little while (cheesed a shit ton). He played Pantheon (or something else, I remember it was 1 champ and it was a gay/snowbally champ) a lot I think.

I was just thinking of the people I hated playing against/with the most (guy was an asshole, but always snowballed when he was on the other team).

Uhh yeah.


A long long time ago, there used to be a high elo twitch that everyone hated, and only played twitch. I believe his name was something along the lines of superaznguy or something equally generic like that. I cannot remember the name too well though. It's a bit difficult to search for, but maybe this might help someone else remember the name if it's the right person.

its aznwiseguy isn't it?

And thank you!


One of these days I will pull off the remember-cooldown-of-an-enemy-targeted-skill-and-flash-the-moment-its-up-and-barely-win-trade
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
May 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#428
Lux is fine. And you know Riot doesn't like nerfing champions' strengths* these days, so they'll probably do something like reduce her base MS or reduce the slow% on her E or reduce her base AD or something else not relevant


*which is good, if you nerf champions' strengths and buff their weaknesses, eventually you get 113 copies of the same champion
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:16:43
May 01 2013 02:09 GMT
#429
On May 01 2013 10:44 Craton wrote:
I mean, if you want to fix Lux, you give her ult the cooldown of a normal champion since it does the same damage as any other one at several thousand range. You also nerf the efficacy of her shield through multiple targets and the range of both Q and E.


This would be true if it weren't for the fact that it's not.

What was the reignofgaming article that listed the burst/sustained damage of all the conventional AP mids in a spreadsheet, and Lux was if I remember correctly 2nd to last in burst damage and last in sustained damage.

Her damage is really low compared to other APs. It's just contained in a single very fast, hard to stop burst combo, and her shield is amazing. If you lowered her damage any more nobody would play her.

I think Lux is in a very good place right now, personally.



Edit: Here it is http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23264-ap-ratios-an-overview

Lux 3rd from last in burst damage, dead last in sustained damage.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 01 2013 02:18 GMT
#430
On May 01 2013 11:09 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:44 Craton wrote:
I mean, if you want to fix Lux, you give her ult the cooldown of a normal champion since it does the same damage as any other one at several thousand range. You also nerf the efficacy of her shield through multiple targets and the range of both Q and E.


This would be true if it weren't for the fact that it's not.

What was the reignofgaming article that listed the burst/sustained damage of all the conventional AP mids in a spreadsheet, and Lux was if I remember correctly 2nd to last in burst damage and last in sustained damage.

Her damage is really low compared to other APs. It's just contained in a single very fast, hard to stop burst combo, and her shield is amazing. If you lowered her damage any more nobody would play her.

I think Lux is in a very good place right now, personally.



Edit: Here it is http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/23264-ap-ratios-an-overview

Lux 3rd from last in burst damage, dead last in sustained damage.

lol 'sustained' being 10 seconds. Wait another 20 seconds for her ult to be up way before any other AP carry, and see where she goes.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 01 2013 02:18 GMT
#431
^theorycraft isn't what actually happens FYI
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 01 2013 02:21 GMT
#432
On May 01 2013 10:51 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:21 Chrispy wrote:
On May 01 2013 10:17 ketchup wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:51 LaM wrote:
Ok this is the most random question I have ever asked, but does anybody remember that guy who was a high ELO player a few years ago (name azn something) and was known for raging. He switched to SC2 beta and was at the top for a little while (cheesed a shit ton). He played Pantheon (or something else, I remember it was 1 champ and it was a gay/snowbally champ) a lot I think.

I was just thinking of the people I hated playing against/with the most (guy was an asshole, but always snowballed when he was on the other team).

Uhh yeah.


A long long time ago, there used to be a high elo twitch that everyone hated, and only played twitch. I believe his name was something along the lines of superaznguy or something equally generic like that. I cannot remember the name too well though. It's a bit difficult to search for, but maybe this might help someone else remember the name if it's the right person.


Oh yeahhh I remember him.


Ahhh ketchup thank you! I remember now that you reminded me it was Twitch lmao. It was aznwiseguy. Haha, fuck that guy.


Hahaha yea! That was the name! My memory filled with some really useless things
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
May 01 2013 02:22 GMT
#433
Does anyone else get Bugsplats every game after a few minutes in and then right after loading when trying to reconnect?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:23:34
May 01 2013 02:22 GMT
#434
At lvl 6 Lux's instant burst at 1000 range with 0 AP is 150 + 60 + 370 = 580. At 1000 range.

Annie's is 180 + 85 + 200 = 465 + 35 DPS. At 625 range.



Veigar is at the bottom half of burst. Legit and useful list imo.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 01 2013 02:29 GMT
#435
That lists "burst" is 5 seconds.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 01 2013 02:30 GMT
#436
On May 01 2013 09:23 thenexusp wrote:
The only really must-have runes are armor yellows, since they open up the entire role of jungling for you. It's incredibly awkward to jungle without armor yellows except with the most durable of champions.

But yeah, there's a reason why AD reds, armor yellows, and MR blues are in the cheapest price tier, and it's not because they're worse than the other ones. It's because Riot doesn't want there to be a huge barrier to getting a workable rune page while still having the IP sink there for those with too much IP and not enough energy regeneration per level runes.


Pretty sure those runes have been priced as is for a long, long time. AD runes weren't always 'must have'(crit damage, and then arpen were just flat out better), and even armor yellows weren't mandatory on the few junglers who could jungle early in the game's life(although they were still very common). I'm fairly sure they were randomly priced at the beginning, and 'new' runes released since then have been pretty expensive with the exception of the gp10 ones.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
May 01 2013 02:32 GMT
#437
On May 01 2013 11:29 h3r1n6 wrote:
That lists "burst" is 5 seconds.


This.

I don't trust reign of gaming when it comes to theorycraft. Ever since that liandry's article I lost a ton of respect for their "math".
"Do a barrel roll"
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:40:39
May 01 2013 02:39 GMT
#438
On May 01 2013 11:32 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 11:29 h3r1n6 wrote:
That lists "burst" is 5 seconds.


This.

I don't trust reign of gaming when it comes to theorycraft. Ever since that liandry's article I lost a ton of respect for their "math".

Even if the math is right I often disagree with the analysis.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:41:12
May 01 2013 02:39 GMT
#439
On May 01 2013 11:22 Shikyo wrote:
At lvl 6 Lux's instant burst at 1000 range with 0 AP is 150 + 60 + 370 = 580. At 1000 range.

Annie's is 180 + 85 + 200 = 465 + 35 DPS. At 625 range.



Veigar is at the bottom half of burst. Legit and useful list imo.


To be fair, Annie's level 6 burst is 180+85+200+70+80 = 615, counting the damage Tibbers does while you're stunned. It also has a higher AP ratio at 2.35 vs 2.05.

There's probably a reason why as level 6 Lux vs level 6 Annie you give her the entire lane and hide behind your tower if you aren't already ahead by then.


Lux's damage compared to other APs is low. Her advantage is safety and reliability of that damage, not the damage itself.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#440
On May 01 2013 11:22 Shikyo wrote:
At lvl 6 Lux's instant burst at 1000 range with 0 AP is 150 + 60 + 370 = 580. At 1000 range.

Annie's is 180 + 85 + 200 = 465 + 35 DPS. At 625 range.



Veigar is at the bottom half of burst. Legit and useful list imo.


Annie's burst is point-and-click though.
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