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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:08:44
April 29 2013 21:55 GMT
#21
On April 30 2013 06:41 overt wrote:
Riot really really wants people to play Quinn and Udyr.


With the change from magic to physical I'm not even sure its a buff unless you itemize tons of armourpen now.

Trinity used to be such a perfect item for him, now I'm not sure.

BC, LW, BoTRK, all interesting options

on a champ that wants to build 50-75% defensive or more even

I suspect BC might trump LW in teamfights because BC applies on tanks with just 1 Q full stacks and is better than LW on squishy champs. However you lose the mobility that a botrk or trinity would give you.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
April 29 2013 21:55 GMT
#22
So the TL mod team recommends skipping in the darkness?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 21:56:44
April 29 2013 21:55 GMT
#23
Anyone else having trouble with the mac client? can't log in at all.\

Zz1tai Quinn mid going to be really strong after this
Carrilord has arrived.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 21:59:43
April 29 2013 21:56 GMT
#24
LOL

Boots
Limited to 1 Boots item at a time

Sounds good to me

Edit::

Players with video cards that use software vertex shaders (primarily integrated cards like those in laptops) should see a 10-40% FPS performance improvement across all maps

This actually sounds pretty nice for me, I might hit 50 fps on laptop now
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
April 29 2013 21:57 GMT
#25
Now I have to figure out something I want to build on Riven that uses a Rejuv bead.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 21:58:52
April 29 2013 21:57 GMT
#26
On April 30 2013 06:57 Gahlo wrote:
Now I have to figure out something I want to build on Riven that uses a Rejuv bead.


Hydra, tiamat price nerf is actually a buff to Wukong and Panth imo...

also still looking for anyone able or not able to log in on mac client.
Carrilord has arrived.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:04:52
April 29 2013 22:04 GMT
#27
okay riot okay, i'll practice my rumble.

Now i know that you'll never nerf him harshly.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
April 29 2013 22:05 GMT
#28
On April 30 2013 06:57 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 06:57 Gahlo wrote:
Now I have to figure out something I want to build on Riven that uses a Rejuv bead.


Hydra, tiamat price nerf is actually a buff to Wukong and Panth imo...

also still looking for anyone able or not able to log in on mac client.

Yeah, that's all I can think of atm.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:13:08
April 29 2013 22:08 GMT
#29
Tiger Udyr is going to counterjungle so friggin hard. He can easily 1v2 at level 3 with double buff.

Also I'm thinking doran blade start with 6% LS quints. Build into swifties and cutlass (or brutalizer). BC probably after giants belt/defensive item.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
April 29 2013 22:08 GMT
#30
Are we reading the same patch? Thresh got nerfed. Now I don't get an awesome passive, stun and movement based ability with my Q. Now its just the last two and the passive is on the E. Lulu got buffed a bit.


I still have all those things. Now I get to max E though which seems a lot better than an irrelevent cdr on hook. More damage and multiple abilities per fight.

Lulu definitely adds up as a nerf. I do doubt it will matter though.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 29 2013 22:10 GMT
#31
Finally! No double boots! I'll take this small victory.

And spell shield only works once... ?_? Why? So many weird changes.

I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 22:11 GMT
#32
On April 30 2013 06:55 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 06:41 overt wrote:
Riot really really wants people to play Quinn and Udyr.


With the change from magic to physical I'm not even sure its a buff unless you itemize tons of armourpen now.

Trinity used to be such a perfect item for him, now I'm not sure.

Additionally, it will also be easier for Udyr to itemize properly, as he will gain further benefits from attack damage focused items like Black Cleaver or Last Whisper.

'cause you know Udyr is exactly the type of champion you'd build LW on... wut.
I wonder if his new "persistant" effect works on towers, though. If it's the case, Tiger Udyr could be a much stronger pusher top than previously (0K, 0K, he got a bunch of AS, but... he didn't push particularly well, neither the waves nor the towers).

On April 30 2013 06:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
dem mundo buffs

gamebreaking imo

Back when I played Olaf it wasn't that rare that I'd die because I was 10 HP short from finishing off my opponent with Reckless Swing. It's a fringe-case, and it's not like he'll be less weak than after they wrecked his Q and ult passive, but you'll have to pay more attention when dueling him at low health early on now. x)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#33
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:17:06
April 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#34
What? Before you had persistent attack speed as well as active, so unless you have a lot of cdr he will do less dps to turrets unless the 15% works on towers.

its an on-hit effect so I'm guessing it wont

and he was a great tower pusher wtf? 105% attack speed steriod what more do you want just build some ad

BC Locket Frozen heart might be an idea for a build for tiger udyr actually
get a hexdrinker and maybe mercs if you need more armour

Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 22:16 GMT
#35
Yes, that's what I meant: if it works on towers maybe he'll be a faster pusher. Otherwise... well, it's not like Udyr was a strong tower killer anyway (I mean he had great AD scaling but you preferred CDR and stuff like sheen on him rather than raw AD anyway).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 29 2013 22:16 GMT
#36
On April 30 2013 06:43 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 06:41 greggy wrote:
wanna buy something new and stompy to play but can't decide between diana, zed and leblanc

help me tl

some say zed some say diana >_>


Zed gonna continually get nerfed and the lane he stomps the hardest is mid which can often lead to all physical damage comps (not necessarily a problem but it's not really ideal). I think Diana is better personally. I can't think of a mid lane she flat out loses, she can top lane, and her build path results in a lot of damage while also being a tanky bitch (Zed probably out damages her but isn't as tanky). Also I personally think her E is the best non-ult CC in the game.

Alistar Q is probably a little better, but that's really only a contest of "which Tier 1 non-ulti CC in the game is bestest?"
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:18:55
April 29 2013 22:16 GMT
#37
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???

http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other?region=eune&tier=challenger
Not too reliable.

http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/role?region=all&tier=all&period=week
Even better.
"My spoon is too big."
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:18:44
April 29 2013 22:18 GMT
#38
On April 30 2013 07:16 Alaric wrote:
Yes, that's what I meant: if it works on towers maybe he'll be a faster pusher. Otherwise... well, it's not like Udyr was a strong tower killer anyway (I mean he had great AD scaling but you preferred CDR and stuff like sheen on him rather than raw AD anyway).


wat

you always went for ad shit like dorans and phage maybe a hexdrinker before sheen and cdr (unless you wanted locket fast because its so good)

udyr was a way stronger tower killer than all other tanks and better than most bruisers and some assassins
dont know what you're talking about

its the waveclear that hurts him if you mean pushing
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
April 29 2013 22:18 GMT
#39
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???

yes. Blue has always had a slightly higher winrate. The queue actually gives purple side a slightly higher average mmr to compensate.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 29 2013 22:19 GMT
#40
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???

The sample size of your games is so small it barely matters for you. Also Purble side should have higher Elo every game? Cumulatively?

I'm gonna play some AD Udyr. There doesn't seem to be much point to getting phoenix with 70% atkspd non persistent.

I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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