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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
April 29 2013 23:17 GMT
#61
On April 30 2013 08:13 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 07:35 Craton wrote:
On April 30 2013 07:18 caelym wrote:
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???

yes. Blue has always had a slightly higher winrate. The queue actually gives purple side a slightly higher average mmr to compensate.

Which amusingly, but not surprisingly, does not seem to have helped.

Patch isn't live right?

EUW shutdown is around 4 hours from now, usually NA got it one day earlier but my guess is that you'll have it by tomorrow.

Quinn getting a ministun while dashing with E to retain the escape part of the ability also means that she'll be able to cancel charged escape abilities like Vi's and Zac's. I wonder if she'll also be able to stop a Shadow Dash or stuff like that with proper timing?

If I can still be killed by Flip, doesn't really matter to me.
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
April 29 2013 23:18 GMT
#62
Thoughts on the new Sejuani? I love the old one, but I don't think I actually like her new kit...
Whaaaa?
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 29 2013 23:19 GMT
#63
Yolo swag nasus nerf 420 blaze it
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 29 2013 23:25 GMT
#64
On April 30 2013 08:18 Misder wrote:
Thoughts on the new Sejuani? I love the old one, but I don't think I actually like her new kit...


not much has changed other than her passive now makes her tankier and her W does not need passive to actually do good damage

unless you mean that they clothed her, because fuck that shit.
Carrilord has arrived.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 29 2013 23:26 GMT
#65
so is new karma going to be op or not?
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 23:38:48
April 29 2013 23:37 GMT
#66
Quinn going to be so friggin OP now. I've actually never lost with her before (excepting games where I had an average of like 350 ping which makes using her skillset a bit tricky), now I'm just going to kill shit so hard.

Secret to her: don't build standard carry. Maximise utility+mobility and armor pen. My standard build on her is boots>bruta>stinger>boots of lucidity>botrk>zephyr>yommus>randuins. halving all your cooldowns makes you infinitely stronger in a fight due to how much raw damage they deal and the utility you get from them, even more so now.

she already out-trades pretty much every other carry in the game except perhaps MF and now with a ministun on her vault, she'll demolish her at 6 as well.

With a utility build her late game survivability and team fighting power is pretty strong as well. She's not good at the clusterfuck style fights, but with the tanky/mobility meta she excels in fights that end up spreading out into, poking safely from the back lines and then birding up to snipe off people hanging around the sides.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 29 2013 23:37 GMT
#67
Best change:
Item shop
Can now be resized by dragging from the bottom right-hand corner
Default size now determined by screen resolution

Now we just need to be able to change the score screen.

Overall great patch, I can't wait for all these changes to go through.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 29 2013 23:38 GMT
#68
shit, now that they're finally implementing aram queues I have to reveal my ingenious 8 man premade aram gamemode to the world.

rip commander mode
:3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 23:43:44
April 29 2013 23:41 GMT
#69
on ADs magic dmg is innately far more powerful than physical dmg. That's why changing anything from magic dmg to physical is a huge nerf, even if you have both a black cleaver and a last whisper(against tanky champions that is, it's a buff vs AD carries and squishy APs in that situation). It just is so valuable being able to deal respectable damage even if the opponent builds mass armor. With all physical dmg you run into the fall behind the renekton early -> he's staring at you with a sunfire cape and wardens mail -> good luck


This is why I of course believe the udyr changes to be a nerf.


Players with video cards that use software vertex shaders (primarily integrated cards like those in laptops) should see a 10-40% FPS performance improvement across all maps



Oh wow, I barely get 25-30 currently with this 2006 Acer, maybe I'll be able to get it to stay at a solid 30+ afterwards. Huge buff.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 23:48:14
April 29 2013 23:47 GMT
#70
On April 30 2013 08:18 Misder wrote:
Thoughts on the new Sejuani? I love the old one, but I don't think I actually like her new kit...

I like the Q/E changes. Dislike the animation change on W, have mixed feelings about ult mechanics. Passive is w/e.

I thought she was fine before the change, just an always open Amumu.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 29 2013 23:50 GMT
#71
On April 30 2013 08:41 Shikyo wrote:
Players with video cards that use software vertex shaders (primarily integrated cards like those in laptops) should see a 10-40% FPS performance improvement across all maps



Oh wow, I barely get 25-30 currently with this 2006 Acer, maybe I'll be able to get it to stay at a solid 30+ afterwards. Huge buff.

I'm not entirely sure what a software vertex shader is.

Someone more tech savvy explain plox. I've no idea if this benefits me or not since my tm2t-1000 is ~2009ish.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 29 2013 23:51 GMT
#72
On April 30 2013 07:55 zer0das wrote:
I still have nightmares about Monte's stupid Quinn split pushing, I really hope Quinn doesn't catch on (she probably will with those buffs, not kneejerk at all. >_>).


I'm not paying for your therapy. :3

In other news, Jungle Thresh buff yessssss.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 29 2013 23:52 GMT
#73
Also, just realized the fix to PFE.

FINALLY. The damn bug makes me feel terrible and confused everytime the gold doesn't pop up.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 29 2013 23:55 GMT
#74
On April 30 2013 08:50 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 08:41 Shikyo wrote:
Players with video cards that use software vertex shaders (primarily integrated cards like those in laptops) should see a 10-40% FPS performance improvement across all maps



Oh wow, I barely get 25-30 currently with this 2006 Acer, maybe I'll be able to get it to stay at a solid 30+ afterwards. Huge buff.

I'm not entirely sure what a software vertex shader is.

Someone more tech savvy explain plox. I've no idea if this benefits me or not since my tm2t-1000 is ~2009ish.

well it likely means integrated graphics cards

Currently playing with geforce 6100 nforce 405
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 30 2013 00:13 GMT
#75
The wither nerf is huge imo. Goodbye Nasus, was fun. Also ARAM que <3 Riot. Now all I have to do is wait for another 2 weeks for the patch to go live in CN server lol.
Terran
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 30 2013 00:14 GMT
#76
On April 30 2013 08:50 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 08:41 Shikyo wrote:
Players with video cards that use software vertex shaders (primarily integrated cards like those in laptops) should see a 10-40% FPS performance improvement across all maps



Oh wow, I barely get 25-30 currently with this 2006 Acer, maybe I'll be able to get it to stay at a solid 30+ afterwards. Huge buff.

I'm not entirely sure what a software vertex shader is.

Someone more tech savvy explain plox. I've no idea if this benefits me or not since my tm2t-1000 is ~2009ish.

i don't know the exact details but i'm betting that good graphics cards have hardware vertex shaders (handled by a processor on the graphics card), and cheaper graphics cards don't and have to run the calculations on software which makes them slower.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
April 30 2013 00:17 GMT
#77
On April 30 2013 08:50 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 08:41 Shikyo wrote:
Players with video cards that use software vertex shaders (primarily integrated cards like those in laptops) should see a 10-40% FPS performance improvement across all maps



Oh wow, I barely get 25-30 currently with this 2006 Acer, maybe I'll be able to get it to stay at a solid 30+ afterwards. Huge buff.

I'm not entirely sure what a software vertex shader is.

Someone more tech savvy explain plox. I've no idea if this benefits me or not since my tm2t-1000 is ~2009ish.


Basically the vertex shader is a step on the graphics pipeline that the GPU implements in hardware, where, true to its name, all the vertices of the geometry that will be shown on your screen are colored (and sometimes manipulated).

If you don't have a dedicated GPU you use a simulation of the GPU in software.

It sounds like they improved the way that they handle that part of the pipeline in software, which can cause increase in performance. Which is interesting because that would lead me to believe that the vertex shader was a bottleneck in the pipeline.(the entire pipeline once it gets going goes at the rate of its slowest component, or its bottleneck.)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 30 2013 00:21 GMT
#78
"Goodbye" because kneejerk (and potentially because there'll be stronger in competitive, which doesn't mean he's bad). He'll still be plenty strong through ult, E flat reduction, uptime on Wither, and ability to be highly damaging and scaling offensively through his utility stat, allowing him to build full tank and still scale decently as a bruiser and excellently as an anticarry.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 30 2013 00:23 GMT
#79
On April 30 2013 09:13 Caphe wrote:
The wither nerf is huge imo. Goodbye Nasus, was fun. Also ARAM que <3 Riot. Now all I have to do is wait for another 2 weeks for the patch to go live in CN server lol.

Well...

Before it was like, Nasus withers you, you attack a minion. After 3 seconds the attack goes off.

It still disables the enemy AD just fine. It's prenerf Nunu level.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 30 2013 00:26 GMT
#80
Wither still has ridiculous MS reduction and long effect time; so ADC's gunna have a hard time running away in teamfights.
liftlift > tsm
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