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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:23:32
April 29 2013 22:20 GMT
#41
On April 30 2013 07:19 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???



I'm gonna play some AD Udyr. There doesn't seem to be much point to getting phoenix with 70% atkspd non persistent.



what does this even mean
tiger udyr used to get 75% attack speed boost

the reason to get pheonix is and always was the fast ass clearing to get more farm.

tiger stance was always better for teamfights (cept maybe with 100% tank and no cdr builds or something)
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
April 29 2013 22:21 GMT
#42
ARAM PATCH. God yes something else to rage over instead of just soloque.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 29 2013 22:21 GMT
#43
Blue side in Challenger wins way more in EUW and NA.

Purple wins most of the time in EUNE. Clearly EUNE is one step ahead of the meta.

On a more serious note, hitting Zed's splitpush safety: I approve.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 22:28 GMT
#44
Spectating featured EUNE "Diamond" games. x_x
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
April 29 2013 22:28 GMT
#45
On April 30 2013 07:18 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???

yes. Blue has always had a slightly higher winrate. The queue actually gives purple side a slightly higher average mmr to compensate.

The way it works is, they try to make the most balanced teams possible and then give the team with a higher MMR purple side.

On big servers like NA the matchmaking will have so many people to choose from that both teams will have MMRs that are essentially equal, meaning blue side advantage will show through regardless of them giving the higher MMR team purple side. On smaller servers MMR effect might be big enough that purple appears advantaged over blue.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
April 29 2013 22:30 GMT
#46
quinn being okay or good will make top a nightmare for most. don't like the red elixir cost increase. glad nasus is finally not making me cry when i play ad. lots of nice small changes. like not accidentally buying 2 pairs of boots. aram queue sounds great.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:35:38
April 29 2013 22:33 GMT
#47
Better buff Zed's early game farming when he's unable to go near the minions~


This change also is wonderful for teamfighting.

Though yeah it's still a nerf overall of course.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:37:15
April 29 2013 22:35 GMT
#48
How is this an Udyr buff? Looks like a nerf to me. A cool change though with the Scaling changing based on #of points in the skill.

Edit: To elaborate.

Udyr does not have a weak lategame because he doesn't do damage, or doesn't scale well. He has a weak lategame because he can't stick to a target or get to the target he wants to.
Freeeeeeedom
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:35:51
April 29 2013 22:35 GMT
#49
On April 30 2013 07:18 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???

yes. Blue has always had a slightly higher winrate. The queue actually gives purple side a slightly higher average mmr to compensate.

Which amusingly, but not surprisingly, does not seem to have helped.

Patch isn't live right?
twitch.tv/cratonz
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:39:33
April 29 2013 22:38 GMT
#50
On April 30 2013 07:20 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 07:19 obesechicken13 wrote:
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???



I'm gonna play some AD Udyr. There doesn't seem to be much point to getting phoenix with 70% atkspd non persistent.



what does this even mean
tiger udyr used to get 75% attack speed boost

the reason to get pheonix is and always was the fast ass clearing to get more farm.

tiger stance was always better for teamfights (cept maybe with 100% tank and no cdr builds or something)

Sorry, what I said was confusing. I thought Udyr used to get 35% aspd from Tiger so he got buffed to 70% with this patch. So I was going to try building AD items like Tiamat and Elder Lizard.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
April 29 2013 22:38 GMT
#51
Official ARAM stuff sounds fun. :D
Retvrn to Forvms
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 22:42:17
April 29 2013 22:41 GMT
#52
LOVE the Tiamat change. Rushing it is going to be far more comfortable now.

But wtf they nerfed my 6 boots janna. I guess it does help against accidentally buying 3 pairs of boots like I once did.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 29 2013 22:42 GMT
#53
Random Ap ratio on Quinn added, wtf?
liftlift > tsm
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
April 29 2013 22:48 GMT
#54
lol so I hear the Mac client broke again
twitch.tv/cratonz
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 29 2013 22:48 GMT
#55
On April 30 2013 07:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Random Ap ratio on Quinn added, wtf?

Riot guy said it was so that items like Triforce are a tiny bit more appealing for her.
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
April 29 2013 22:54 GMT
#56
On April 30 2013 07:48 Craton wrote:
lol so I hear the Mac client broke again


Mine is. But I don't want to study for finals . . .
Derp
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
April 29 2013 22:55 GMT
#57
I still have nightmares about Monte's stupid Quinn split pushing, I really hope Quinn doesn't catch on (she probably will with those buffs, not kneejerk at all. >_>).
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 29 2013 22:56 GMT
#58
Yea I can't get in on mac at all patch isn't even live wtf
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 29 2013 22:58 GMT
#59
On April 30 2013 07:55 zer0das wrote:
I still have nightmares about Monte's stupid Quinn split pushing, I really hope Quinn doesn't catch on (she probably will with those buffs, not kneejerk at all. >_>).


they aren't Kneejerk at all for adc duo position, she sucked balls at that, problem is she was not bad at top / mid, now she is going to be a great top and an amazing roam mid, it's like the taric nerfs all over again Riot only considers the intended role sometimes.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 23:13 GMT
#60
On April 30 2013 07:35 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 07:18 caelym wrote:
On April 30 2013 07:14 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/other

is this real???

yes. Blue has always had a slightly higher winrate. The queue actually gives purple side a slightly higher average mmr to compensate.

Which amusingly, but not surprisingly, does not seem to have helped.

Patch isn't live right?

EUW shutdown is around 4 hours from now, usually NA got it one day earlier but my guess is that you'll have it by tomorrow.

Quinn getting a ministun while dashing with E to retain the escape part of the ability also means that she'll be able to cancel charged escape abilities like Vi's and Zac's. I wonder if she'll also be able to stop a Shadow Dash or stuff like that with proper timing?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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