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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
May 14 2013 01:08 GMT
#3401
On May 14 2013 09:54 beefhamburger wrote:
CLG being sponsored by iBuyPower now.

Oh the irony.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2013 01:09 GMT
#3402
On May 14 2013 08:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 08:09 cLutZ wrote:
On May 14 2013 07:08 TheYango wrote:
On May 14 2013 07:00 cLutZ wrote:
On May 14 2013 04:47 Shikyo wrote:
^ Xerath spams far harder than Lux.

On May 14 2013 04:44 Ketara wrote:
On May 14 2013 04:41 upperbound wrote:
Is there a good reason why Riot doesn't make double golems spawn at 1:55?


I think this would help a bit, but realistically bot lane would just do wraiths instead then. And they can't make wraiths spawn late because if they do then junglers can't start red.

I am 100% convinced that the way to fix this problem is to add another double golem camp so they're on both sides, and just let both teams do it.

They could just like, make all camps spawn at 1:55. Jungler can start red just fine, it's not like doing a camp before it is somehow a requirement that unlocks the ability to kill the golem / lizard.


I think they should just add More jungle camps in general. Opening up blue/purple side options is just one bonus, it also could nudge the jungle in a direction that better for spectators and soloq.

I've said before that they should have non-buff camps spawn in the Blue/Red camps between the time when the buff is up. Have them spawn every minute like other camps, and after 5 minutes, have the next spawn be a buff again.

Having only 3 camps to work with most of the time is very restrictive.


While a fun idea, I find fights over blue to be one of the most exciting things in the game right now, and I don't know if Riot has the coding to make your dream come true.

If you do something like this it accomplishes:
1. Fix purple/red problems.
2. Actually punishes lane camping.
3. New camps are actually difficult for laners to take on a regular basis.

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Blue=Blue
Red=Red
Green=Golem
Orange=Wraith (I actually would like to add more of these, but I t might cramp blue side a bit).
Purple=Wolves


You clutter the map changing the geometry so much to add new camps. I don't know why you'd think it's easier to warp the terrain to accommodate new jungle camps than it is to just add intermediate spawns to the buff camps. The latter sounds way more feasible to me.


I mean, its just a rough drawing. Having camps spawn in the buff camp areas is fine i guess, but it doesn't changed the blue side advantage. Doubles spawning at 1:55 would mitigate that, yes. However I like the idea of screwing with the jungle's geometry.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2013 01:14 GMT
#3403
Just changed phone notification sound to Garen's 'demacia' shout. Waiting for ptsd lol players to quake in fear every time my phone goes off.
liftlift > tsm
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 01:50:09
May 14 2013 01:39 GMT
#3404
On May 14 2013 10:08 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 09:54 beefhamburger wrote:
CLG being sponsored by iBuyPower now.

Oh the irony.

Irony..? or well executed marketing strategy where the chosen representatives exemplify the brand message. Either way we're talking about the same thing I suppose.
On May 14 2013 10:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Just changed phone notification sound to Garen's 'demacia' shout. Waiting for ptsd lol players to quake in fear every time my phone goes off.

Lol players will quake, and quake players will lol.
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
May 14 2013 01:51 GMT
#3405
Only CLG could think a role swap would be a good idea...

Guaranteed it's so Hotshot can play Nautilus in the jungle and Chauster can go Lee/Elise top.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
May 14 2013 02:13 GMT
#3406
On May 14 2013 10:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Just changed phone notification sound to Garen's 'demacia' shout. Waiting for ptsd lol players to quake in fear every time my phone goes off.


He actually only says that when he activates Courage, not too scary.
I am the Town Medic.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2013 02:21 GMT
#3407
On May 14 2013 11:13 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 10:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Just changed phone notification sound to Garen's 'demacia' shout. Waiting for ptsd lol players to quake in fear every time my phone goes off.


He actually only says that when he activates Courage, not too scary.

Right before he jumps out of the bush and spins and dunks all over you
liftlift > tsm
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
May 14 2013 02:41 GMT
#3408
I know Aphro was playing a lot of top lane champions on his smurf account while streaming. Could possibly be related to that, although it could easily be said he was just doing it for fun.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
May 14 2013 02:46 GMT
#3409
On May 14 2013 11:41 Dusty wrote:
I know Aphro was playing a lot of top lane champions on his smurf account while streaming. Could possibly be related to that, although it could easily be said he was just doing it for fun.

Nice, hope they bring back that Hotshotgg Janna support. muhuhahaha.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
May 14 2013 02:48 GMT
#3410
Doublelift Janna.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 14 2013 02:51 GMT
#3411
On May 14 2013 11:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 11:13 Alzadar wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Just changed phone notification sound to Garen's 'demacia' shout. Waiting for ptsd lol players to quake in fear every time my phone goes off.


He actually only says that when he activates Courage, not too scary.

Right before he jumps out of the bush and spins and dunks all over you

Why would he activate courage there ? ;S
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 14 2013 02:57 GMT
#3412
On May 14 2013 11:46 DonKey_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 11:41 Dusty wrote:
I know Aphro was playing a lot of top lane champions on his smurf account while streaming. Could possibly be related to that, although it could easily be said he was just doing it for fun.

Nice, hope they bring back that Hotshotgg Janna support. muhuhahaha.


HotshotGG Janna + locodoco better lane than Chauster + Doublelift lolol.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2013 02:57 GMT
#3413
On May 14 2013 11:51 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 11:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 14 2013 11:13 Alzadar wrote:
On May 14 2013 10:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Just changed phone notification sound to Garen's 'demacia' shout. Waiting for ptsd lol players to quake in fear every time my phone goes off.


He actually only says that when he activates Courage, not too scary.

Right before he jumps out of the bush and spins and dunks all over you

Why would he activate courage there ? ;S

Wouldn't be face roll if you didn't just mash buttons.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2013 03:01 GMT
#3414
People forget Aphro is a really good player...
Freeeeeeedom
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 03:36:58
May 14 2013 03:24 GMT
#3415
Why people stop playing Ahri?

Ahri stronk.

O.O

Her combo feels so rewarding to land. SO many tricks you can pull off with that R too. Flash-R-E coolest engage ever.

EDIT: I remembers, Froggen said she was unreliable damage and easu yo shut down or something, then everyone run like plague.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 03:25:51
May 14 2013 03:25 GMT
#3416
On May 14 2013 09:25 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2013 09:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 14 2013 09:16 Shikyo wrote:
All these silly picks.

Against AP Yi you counterpick Nocturne mid. Good ganks, freefarm, solid scaling into lategame with said freefarm. What's not to like?


I don't see how Noc is better than Mordekaiser as a counterpick against Yi.

Mordekaiser has far worse ganks of course, some of the weakest out of all midlaners. Nocturne's ganks are far stronger. I don't think Mordekaiser is really that strong and he needs to be constantly pushing, being vulnerable to ganks. Nocturne can play a lot more carefully when necessary. Nocturne also has some real kill potential on Yi whereas Mordekaiser doesn't.


It doesn't matter. It's not like Yi can roam that much, considering he lacks up front damage and has no CC. In fact I will argue that Mordekaiser roams better than Yi, because Morde has better waveclear and higher burst. Furthermore, Mordekaiser will crush Yi's laning phase into little pieces - so even if you don't roam, you will come out of the laning phase with much better farm.
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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 03:52:49
May 14 2013 03:48 GMT
#3417
On May 14 2013 12:24 iCanada wrote:
Why people stop playing Ahri?

Ahri stronk.

O.O

Her combo feels so rewarding to land. SO many tricks you can pull off with that R too. Flash-R-E coolest engage ever.

EDIT: I remembers, Froggen said she was unreliable damage and easu yo shut down or something, then everyone run like plague.


If I recall correctly, she was picked up by Fnatic by xPeke during the LCS finals. He played very well with her. I think she's still around. It's just people rather first pick Zed instead(and why not?). He's also picked her throughout the spring season.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
May 14 2013 04:08 GMT
#3418
Why can't purple side bot lane do wolves to help counteract golems?
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 14 2013 04:10 GMT
#3419
Because Purple Jungler typically opens Wolves Golems.
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
May 14 2013 04:12 GMT
#3420
On May 14 2013 13:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Because Purple Jungler typically opens Wolves Golems.


So bot lane experience is less important than jungler experience. Sounds like this golem advantage isn't really an issue then.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
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