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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On May 14 2013 05:54 wei2coolman wrote: Jeez Korea and China's team are so fucking stacked. It'll be a miracle if NA or EU can even win a single lane against these guys. soaz can hold his own. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On May 14 2013 06:54 xes wrote: I wonder how NA will do, vs EU/KR/CN All-Stars teams which are actually full of people arguable worlds best in that lane (except yellowpete zzz). dunno about laning but KR/CN teams have really good decision making, there is almost no hesitation, and the way the teams move around the map is superior to NA. it's not just individual skill but team skill that makes the asian teams look so much better than NA. (i don't watch EU so i can't comment there.) | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 14 2013 07:08 TheYango wrote: I've said before that they should have non-buff camps spawn in the Blue/Red camps between the time when the buff is up. Have them spawn every minute like other camps, and after 5 minutes, have the next spawn be a buff again. Having only 3 camps to work with most of the time is very restrictive. While a fun idea, I find fights over blue to be one of the most exciting things in the game right now, and I don't know if Riot has the coding to make your dream come true. If you do something like this it accomplishes: 1. Fix purple/red problems. 2. Actually punishes lane camping. 3. New camps are actually difficult for laners to take on a regular basis. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/summonersriftq.png/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us Blue=Blue Red=Red Green=Golem Orange=Wraith (I actually would like to add more of these, but I t might cramp blue side a bit). Purple=Wolves | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
Alpha strike poke does hella damage, and somewhat zoned me off minions since I couldn't consistently damage him back without burning through my mana quickly. He typically had minion advantage because of this. Whenever I would take him down to half health, he'd just hop under his tower and heal up. Felt like I should have been pushing out of lane or something (at least he 'bragsulted' me that he was shocked that he beat me in lane - which amounted to 20 more cs and a few more kills from roaming I guess?). | ||
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Craton
United States17277 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:09 Requizen wrote: Maple feeding like hell on Saint's stream as Quinn. Guitar gotta run some damage control XD Did he just go on a rant about Maple being bad on anything that isn't draven? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:09 cLutZ wrote: While a fun idea, I find fights over blue to be one of the most exciting things in the game right now, and I don't know if Riot has the coding to make your dream come true. If you do something like this it accomplishes: 1. Fix purple/red problems. 2. Actually punishes lane camping. 3. New camps are actually difficult for laners to take on a regular basis. + Show Spoiler + Uploaded with ImageShack.us Blue=Blue Red=Red Green=Golem Orange=Wraith (I actually would like to add more of these, but I t might cramp blue side a bit). Purple=Wolves You clutter the map changing the geometry so much to add new camps. I don't know why you'd think it's easier to warp the terrain to accommodate new jungle camps than it is to just add intermediate spawns to the buff camps. The latter sounds way more feasible to me. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:16 Ryalnos wrote: I am puzzled. What is the lane counterplay to AP Yi? I am trying to figure out if the one I faced as Orianna was good, or if I just badly misunderstand how I'm supposed to play against him. Alpha strike poke does hella damage, and somewhat zoned me off minions since I couldn't consistently damage him back without burning through my mana quickly. He typically had minion advantage because of this. Whenever I would take him down to half health, he'd just hop under his tower and heal up. Felt like I should have been pushing out of lane or something (at least he 'bragsulted' me that he was shocked that he beat me in lane - which amounted to 20 more cs and a few more kills from roaming I guess?). As Ori I'd just max E and shield yourself every time he alpha strikes you. Farm, then just outscale and shut him down in teamfights. Ezpz. If you grab MR Yellows/Blues, Flat AP Quints and whatever reds you want (Magic pen, maybe AD for last hitting?) your shield will shield for more damage than his Alpha strike all game since you prolly going to grab a chalice and such as well. Then after shielding his Alpha strike, auto him at will till his alpha strike back up. I dunno, you have zero kill potential, but it a winnable lane for sure. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:09 Requizen wrote: Maple feeding like hell on Saint's stream as Quinn. Guitar gotta run some damage control XD Nien is free agent.... | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:26 h3r1n6 wrote: If you max shield, there is no way you can match his shoving. Dont need to. Can't out roam him anyway, and helps you abuse his early gankability. But you Max E you out trade him hard, and you also can just straight up 1v1 him cuz his only nuke useless. Means you can follow him and mitigate his roaming once he starts feeling the need to (like level 6 usually). Most get hella frustrated that they can't push you out of lane and you have better mana sustain than them. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:22 iCanada wrote: As Ori I'd just max E and shield yourself every time he alpha strikes you. Farm, then just outscale and shut him down in teamfights. Ezpz. If you grab MR Yellows/Blues, Flat AP Quints and whatever reds you want (Magic pen, maybe AD for last hitting?) your shield will shield for more damage than his Alpha strike all game since you prolly going to grab a chalice and such as well. Then after shielding his Alpha strike, auto him at will till his alpha strike back up. I dunno, you have zero kill potential, but it a winnable lane for sure. I'm not convinced maxing shield is a good idea. You really need Q max for the cdr and clearing ability. Maybe a couple of extra levels of E early can help, but honestly I'd just stock up on pots and rush a chalice. Maybe even invest in a flask if you really need the regen. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:22 iCanada wrote: As Ori I'd just max E and shield yourself every time he alpha strikes you. Farm, then just outscale and shut him down in teamfights. Ezpz. If you grab MR Yellows/Blues, Flat AP Quints and whatever reds you want (Magic pen, maybe AD for last hitting?) your shield will shield for more damage than his Alpha strike all game since you prolly going to grab a chalice and such as well. Then after shielding his Alpha strike, auto him at will till his alpha strike back up. I dunno, you have zero kill potential, but it a winnable lane for sure. You don't win lane against Yi, least of all with ori | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On May 14 2013 08:32 Ryuu314 wrote: I'm not convinced maxing shield is a good idea. You really need Q max for the cdr and clearing ability. Maybe a couple of extra levels of E early can help, but honestly I'd just stock up on pots and rush a chalice. Maybe even invest in a flask if you really need the regen. Yeah, you don't need to win lane as Ori to win game. Yi is less likely to be useful late game. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
That said, he can still pentakill with lucky/well timed Alphas, so it's kinda moot. | ||
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