EPT[Patch 3.06: Lissandra Patch] General Discussion - Page 173
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On May 14 2013 14:47 Shikyo wrote: ^ I was almost certain that even if they have it warded(the position is easy to scout / predict btw) ganking / camping is still beneficial. On May 14 2013 15:17 Shikyo wrote: More about ganking where there's no wards instead of over them -.- Not sure what you are advising in the first quote then? o.o | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:19 Scip wrote: Not sure what you are advising in the first quote then? o.o the position is easy to scout / predict -> if you know the position of the ward you don't gank over the ward Isn't it self-explanatory? Oh and Iceborn Gauntlet is such a bullshit item on ranged champions. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:36 Shikyo wrote: if you know the position of the ward you don't gank over the ward Ok sure. But how does that in any way derive from this? On May 14 2013 15:36 Shikyo wrote: the position is easy to scout / predict -> Position of what, the ward? Or the jungler/ganking path? What does that have to do with what follows after the -> arrow? How does this sqaure with your original statement of ganking/camping even when it's warded being beneficial? I ES CONFUSED It still seems to contradict your original post, doesn't it? If it doesn't then I give up on thinking | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
"this fact right here leads into this" | ||
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On May 14 2013 16:17 wei2coolman wrote: Jungling has always been a sub conscience thing for me. I just follow 'the feels'. Never really been a big fan of over analyzing jungling theory. nk inc told me he does the same thing with all aspects of jungling, including smiting (and including ezreal phase shifting, smite-stealing dragons). going too in-depth on the numbers will fuck your game up, just play 4000 jungle games and get a feel for what to do at what time. be fluid and adaptable and know what every champ does and you'll be a good jungler | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
The bot lane is always the bitch, and always gives a smiteless no matter the side you're on. You either help with wolves and then blue, or on blue side, you help do wraiths (I've started asking them for help for golems instead of wraiths though), and do a smiteless red leash. I haven't had a lane for a long time where I haven't missed the first one (or in a lot of cases two) creeps in bot lane because I'm helping to do smiteless. Top and mid do wraiths or wolves, and top usually gets the gold/exp, so that they hit lvl 2 faster. This is even to the extent that I've started red on junglers like amumu who I would start blue buff on NA if I'm blue side, because top lane rages if I don't give them their wolves camp lvl 1. I was pretty miffed at losing my blue side advantage bot lane for a while, but it's just the way the meta is here. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Also going to leave this here: | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 14 2013 13:56 TheLink wrote: That sounds fair enough. It's not really a net loss since you're only moving xp rather than losing it but I can accept an argument on jungle xp being more important than lane xp. Purple side can: Have less xp on bot lane Have less xp on jungler Have jungler start red and bot start wolves (this is under my belief that bot lanes can fight wolves easily which was contested earlier) I just want to show that purple side is making one of these decisions. It isn't automatically a losing bot lane. 1. Purple Disadvantage 2. Purple Disadvantage 3. Purple Disadvantage because of: 1. Wolves Randomness. 2. Toplane 1v1 is better to gank at lvl 3 than the botlane 2v2 | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:05 Scip wrote: Actually just try farming and not ganking AT ALL until you hit lvl6 and you'll be surprised just how effective it is. It's not likely to be ideal, but it's probably closer to ideal than ganking over wards is. im so fucking ahead of the curve | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Nan14tP.jpg) 3 more wins as Sejuani tonight, 12-0 currently with her. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:58 ItsFunToLose wrote: I want the option to mute individual user's posts. Neo pls. There is a TL extension for that. But who would reply to Shikyo then ? :/ | ||
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IMoperator
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On May 14 2013 19:13 IMoperator wrote: I wish there was a way to play at diamond level to see if I can keep up with the high level players. Also it would be really good practice right? Like foreigners in SC2 going to korea for the Dragon Ball Z training style lol. There is a way. Get to diamond  | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
It takes so long though, that's the problem  I win more than I lose, but I don't completely dominate every game enough to get an insane win ratio in order to rank up quickly. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6222 Posts
On May 14 2013 19:41 IMoperator wrote: It takes so long though, that's the problem I win more than I lose, but I don't completely dominate every game enough to get an insane win ratio in order to rank up quickly. It's very hard to keep up with the upper level diamonds if you're below them. I'm plat I atm, probably can make it to diamond V/IV in time given that I'm going +25/-18 but if I duoQ with diamonds and get Q'd against diamond I's, I'll generally lose lane, slowly and steadily regardless of whether or not the lane is in my favour or not. There is actually a huge difference between lower diamond and high diamond that's very difficult to see in streams. If you're close in skill to them, it's pretty good for learning but if you're massively outskilled, getting stomped into the ground teaches nothing other than they're straight up better than you. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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