[Patch 3.04: Zac] General Discussion - Page 49

On March 22 2013 19:59 LOLItsRyann wrote:


Am I missing something? What Udyr nerf? O_O

On March 22 2013 23:08 Cedstick wrote:

This right here is why they're nerfing him.

But for real, I was JUST thinking about learning Udyr, and they're gonna go and change him on me? Frig.

On March 22 2013 23:10 onlywonderboy wrote:

To be fair he would have died if Brand hadn't whiffed both of his skillshots lol.

On March 22 2013 20:22 Mensol wrote:
woong leaves CJ FROST?

BEST NEWS EVER.

On March 22 2013 21:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:

Because he sucks and has for a long time. One gambit game doesn't change that.

On March 23 2013 00:08 TheYango wrote:

It's hilarious how much Western viewers hate on Woong when as far as I'm aware, Koreans consider him on par with Score and Pray (at least according to Maknoon).

On March 23 2013 00:08 TheYango wrote:

It's hilarious how much Western viewers hate on Woong when as far as I'm aware, Koreans consider him on par with Score and Pray (at least according to Maknoon).

On March 22 2013 23:42 Cloud9157 wrote:
Can they just give Udyr Quinn's ult? Instead of phoenix stance now, make it so he turns into a phoenix and flies at someone.

Make sure its a gap closer, because you need one to be relevant. /toometa

On March 23 2013 00:08 Slayer91 wrote:


i have like 70-80% winrate in the recent weeks with udyr
u jelly?

also that udyr takes the long route to red video is so true haha, any time you have blue or get blue from a kill shit like that happens. I remember diving first tower top and then running past the next 2 into their base past another 2 avoid bot lane through mid and then go to my red and gank again before backing l0l

most likely its some kind of a buff to jungle pheonix udyr but it rapes top lane udyr which hasn't been played in ages in competitive play so wtf are they thinking? (the mana steal remove and the tiger magic to physical kinda wrecks his top lane because you can stack armour now.)
You lose a lot of gold value from the 48 ap and 24 ad but the 48 ap is mostly made up from the extra damage on pheonix and the extra shield strength on w. Most likely cdr heavy builds will be stronger on pheonix udyr now because spam casting pheonix has an immediate benefit now.

also the passive change is probably a nerf, 15 ms when you have 3 stacks isnt that good. It's only 475 gold for the same thing on boots enchant and nobody gets that. Gap closing isnt udyrs problem pheonix udyrs problem is having no burst damage OR gap closer so you need to be really tanky to go it. 15 MS won't do anything if it just takes one cc spell to stop you going in on your own. Meanwhile you have things like whimsey giving you 25% movement which is far stronger than 15 more ms and the 12% resist/armour buff is much more useful in general.
Tiger udyrs problem is that he's weak early on because he runs out of mana so easily and he's really easy to gank yet they're nerfing him again for apparently no reason. Meanwhile people like zed are strong at all points of the game including lane phase have great escape skills and dueling power and he's completely untouched o.O

I mean the clueless guys in reign of gaming are like yeah you can build armour pen now on udyr because q does physical damage but everyone has tons more armour than magic resist between base stats and itemization that you need like 40+ armour pen to get back to where you were in the first place so it's never a buff.

These changes are aimed at making Udyr have a smoother play experience, not necessarily a nerf or buff. Power level wise it would be great if he stayed the same when all is said and done. That being said solo-top Udyr has typically never promoted healthy play, he either makes the enemy miserable by ignoring him or he gets crushed. Jungle Udyr has a much more dynamic play pattern. Turtle not giving any mana back is a huge hit to the top-lane Udyr playstyle, but there are compensating measures taken in other areas.

On March 23 2013 00:38 TheYango wrote:

So he'd just be Shyvana then.

On March 23 2013 01:25 JonnyLaw wrote:
On a serious note, Udyr does dash on the PBE apparently.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3250834#35862667

On March 23 2013 01:22 red_ wrote:
Why did the reduce they bear stance movement speed duration though? I'm so confused by that part.

I don't want to disseminate false info so don't quote me on this, but it feels like about 175-200 range?