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On March 22 2013 16:07 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 16:01 Magus wrote:On March 22 2013 15:46 SagaZ wrote:
IDK about jungle udyr. Phoenix lost alot of damage, maybe tiger if changes go trought? He's gonna be a speedy mofo tho ^^ First hit procs the Pheonix now though so you do your damage slightly faster. You lose 20-60 damage on the AoE waves, 4-12 damage per Pheonix proc, and 8-24 AD, in return for dealing a Pheonix proc on your first hit. The only part of that that kinda sucks is losing the AD. The Pheonix clear times shouldn't be that much slower after the change, and he'll run faster. The issue is he'll need blue buff more if they keep Turtle without the mana gain per hit. Eh. Using turtle is so random. For me at least. Ami doing stuff wrong?
You used to use turtle for the shield and immediately leave back to pheonix for a fast clear, or you would use pheonix for the aoe and immediately go to turtle for a safe clear (maybe you're behind or almost dead etc.) You choose which you want, fast clear at the cost of hp/mana, or a slow clear. Not many champions have that choice, but most people wouldn't chose to clear slowly anyways, so I doubt it matters much.
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On March 22 2013 16:26 SnK-Arcbound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 16:07 cLutZ wrote:On March 22 2013 16:01 Magus wrote:On March 22 2013 15:46 SagaZ wrote:
IDK about jungle udyr. Phoenix lost alot of damage, maybe tiger if changes go trought? He's gonna be a speedy mofo tho ^^ First hit procs the Pheonix now though so you do your damage slightly faster. You lose 20-60 damage on the AoE waves, 4-12 damage per Pheonix proc, and 8-24 AD, in return for dealing a Pheonix proc on your first hit. The only part of that that kinda sucks is losing the AD. The Pheonix clear times shouldn't be that much slower after the change, and he'll run faster. The issue is he'll need blue buff more if they keep Turtle without the mana gain per hit. Eh. Using turtle is so random. For me at least. Ami doing stuff wrong? You used to use turtle for the shield and immediately leave back to pheonix for a fast clear, or you would use pheonix for the aoe and immediately go to turtle for a safe clear (maybe you're behind or almost dead etc.) You choose which you want, fast clear at the cost of hp/mana, or a slow clear. Not many champions have that choice, but most people wouldn't chose to clear slowly anyways, so I doubt it matters much.
That is what I mean.
For jungle, at least, I never use turtle except for holding lane, which actually might be a big thing for mana post blue, but idk.
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On March 22 2013 16:26 SnK-Arcbound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 16:07 cLutZ wrote:On March 22 2013 16:01 Magus wrote:On March 22 2013 15:46 SagaZ wrote:
IDK about jungle udyr. Phoenix lost alot of damage, maybe tiger if changes go trought? He's gonna be a speedy mofo tho ^^ First hit procs the Pheonix now though so you do your damage slightly faster. You lose 20-60 damage on the AoE waves, 4-12 damage per Pheonix proc, and 8-24 AD, in return for dealing a Pheonix proc on your first hit. The only part of that that kinda sucks is losing the AD. The Pheonix clear times shouldn't be that much slower after the change, and he'll run faster. The issue is he'll need blue buff more if they keep Turtle without the mana gain per hit. Eh. Using turtle is so random. For me at least. Ami doing stuff wrong? You used to use turtle for the shield and immediately leave back to pheonix for a fast clear, or you would use pheonix for the aoe and immediately go to turtle for a safe clear (maybe you're behind or almost dead etc.) You choose which you want, fast clear at the cost of hp/mana, or a slow clear. Not many champions have that choice, but most people wouldn't chose to clear slowly anyways, so I doubt it matters much.
if I have blue I use turtle when I'm incoming @ the camp as well
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I'd imagine that with the changes you'd go turtle->(get to camp)->phoenix->4 autos->repeat so long as you had blue buff. Clear speed is probably going to be roughly equivalent since you lose a whole bunch of AD/AP on the phoenix activation.
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Wow, some news to wake up to.
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I've always disliked Woong. This is good news for me at least. I can start to enjoy Frost more now.
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No more fck Woong suck any more.
Gonna miss that guy.
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Live2Win
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omg woong. He reminded me of one of my friends. I'm gonna miss that guy
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Live2Win
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http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=54945&iskin=esports
Some points in there.
- According to the coach, "Woong had been personally preparing to make IEM the last tournament. It is not a result of any team conflict, but because the player wanted to leave on his own the team decided had to let him go. Everyone is very sad to see an old teammate leave. We will support him to go in the direction he desire."
- Regarding Hermes, "Hermes is very diligent, and has good synergy with Madlife. Madlife is satisfied with the new partnership. He works well with the other teammates so there should be no issues with teamwork. Look forward to CJ Frost in the spring season."
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Live2Win
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"Yiliang Peng @CLGDoublelift 42m
Hotshot just realized he bought a plane ticket that departed yesterday"
"George Georgallidis @CLG_HotshotGG 35m
OH MY GOD, I BOUGHT A PLANE TICKET FOR YESTERDAY AND I FORGOT TO READ MY EMAIL. GOING TO BE AT PAX ONE DAY LATE, #@F)@$@$"
Good lord....
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Time for a new era of Korean ADCs.
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On March 22 2013 18:29 Live2Win wrote:
"Yiliang Peng @CLGDoublelift 42m
Hotshot just realized he bought a plane ticket that departed yesterday"
"George Georgallidis @CLG_HotshotGG 35m
OH MY GOD, I BOUGHT A PLANE TICKET FOR YESTERDAY AND I FORGOT TO READ MY EMAIL. GOING TO BE AT PAX ONE DAY LATE, #@F)@$@$"
Good lord....
So fucking unprofessional; I thought that's the whole point of a team manager. To fucking manage this shit.
Not to fucking mention, shit like PAX is planned MONTHS in advanced, and purchasing your tickets early saves a shit ton of money, buying it last second is super expensive, and buying it for a wrong flight is super dumb.
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Lol Hotshot.... flight to an LAN event on the bottom of his priority list
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A lot of people hated woong mainly cause of S2 finals, but he was still a solid ad and a coremember of Frost! Can't wait to see madlife's new lanepartner
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On March 22 2013 19:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Lol Hotshot.... flight to an LAN event on the bottom of his priority list
An ell ay enn event? Has my life been a lie?
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Ugh 10 placements is so many, 4w 3l so far but damn if I'm not crazy tired after work and don't want to risk losing to fatigue.
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Why the fuck are they nerfing udyr so hard?
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There is a LOL Proleague in China going on right now. I think its the equivalent of LCS. WE is crushing everyone right now  .
WE vs OMG just over. Coming up is Royal vs Huayi Spider
For people that interested http://lol.tga.plu.cn/live
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