• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:24
CEST 00:24
KST 07:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 237ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming! [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9215 users

[Patch 3.04: Zac] General Discussion - Page 48

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 101 Next
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 10:47:15
March 22 2013 10:47 GMT
#941
lol
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
March 22 2013 10:54 GMT
#942
I've always had a hatred for Lanedyr after facing one that I went 3/0/0 against and he could still just splitpush all day and be an absolute monster despite being down 50 farm and 3 kills.
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
March 22 2013 10:59 GMT
#943
On March 22 2013 19:16 Slayer91 wrote:
Why the fuck are they nerfing udyr so hard?


Am I missing something? What Udyr nerf? O_O
EG<3
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 22 2013 11:10 GMT
#944
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23644-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-3-22-2013
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 22 2013 11:22 GMT
#945
woong leaves CJ FROST?

BEST NEWS EVER.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
March 22 2013 11:44 GMT
#946
On March 22 2013 19:59 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 19:16 Slayer91 wrote:
Why the fuck are they nerfing udyr so hard?


Am I missing something? What Udyr nerf? O_O


Teutonica plays a lot of Udyr and these changes will probably make other people notice him, and I think Teut likes Udyr as he is.
wat
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
March 22 2013 12:16 GMT
#947
Bear stance ignores unit collision apparently even though it doesn't state it in the tooltips. That's surely a good sign.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 22 2013 12:22 GMT
#948
But the best part of playing Udyr is getting minion blocked because you're a big fat bear pretender!
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
March 22 2013 12:24 GMT
#949
Phoenix proc on first hit should be pretty good, but I'm not sure why they feel the need to change Udyr.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
March 22 2013 12:25 GMT
#950
On March 22 2013 21:24 h3r1n6 wrote:
Phoenix proc on first hit should be pretty good, but I'm not sure why they feel the need to change Udyr.

Because he sucks and has for a long time. One gambit game doesn't change that.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 22 2013 12:29 GMT
#951
On March 22 2013 21:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 21:24 h3r1n6 wrote:
Phoenix proc on first hit should be pretty good, but I'm not sure why they feel the need to change Udyr.

Because he sucks and has for a long time. One gambit game doesn't change that.


yeah, but it looks like that one game finally reminded riot that udyr even exists!
:3
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 12:49:10
March 22 2013 12:38 GMT
#952
On March 22 2013 21:29 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 21:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On March 22 2013 21:24 h3r1n6 wrote:
Phoenix proc on first hit should be pretty good, but I'm not sure why they feel the need to change Udyr.

Because he sucks and has for a long time. One gambit game doesn't change that.


yeah, but it looks like that one game finally reminded riot that udyr even exists!

yes because popularity of a champion always reflects his strength
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 22 2013 13:16 GMT
#953
On March 22 2013 20:22 Mensol wrote:
woong leaves CJ FROST?

BEST NEWS EVER.

I dunno. For all the hard time we give Woong, he has been exactly what Frost needed in a carry for multiple tournament victories - someone they can leave off on their own in teamfights with minimal while the rest of Frost runs over the enemy team (literally running over, when Shy is on Singed.) Madlife is usually doing more 'catching' than peeling.

He's no WeiXiao or Score, but Frost isn't a team centered around supporting Woong either.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 22 2013 13:25 GMT
#954
On March 22 2013 21:38 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 21:29 Eiii wrote:
On March 22 2013 21:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On March 22 2013 21:24 h3r1n6 wrote:
Phoenix proc on first hit should be pretty good, but I'm not sure why they feel the need to change Udyr.

Because he sucks and has for a long time. One gambit game doesn't change that.


yeah, but it looks like that one game finally reminded riot that udyr even exists!

yes because popularity of a champion always reflects his strength


According to riot it does.Pretty much everything that gets popular gets nerfed.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 22 2013 13:30 GMT
#955
I love the Udyr changes. Rageblade here I come!
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 13:44:12
March 22 2013 13:35 GMT
#956
On March 22 2013 22:25 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 21:38 kongoline wrote:
On March 22 2013 21:29 Eiii wrote:
On March 22 2013 21:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On March 22 2013 21:24 h3r1n6 wrote:
Phoenix proc on first hit should be pretty good, but I'm not sure why they feel the need to change Udyr.

Because he sucks and has for a long time. One gambit game doesn't change that.


yeah, but it looks like that one game finally reminded riot that udyr even exists!

yes because popularity of a champion always reflects his strength


According to riot it does.Pretty much everything that gets popular gets nerfed.


This is all because Riot is a bunch of nerds who as a result of deep repressed memories of abuse by the popular kids in school fly into a rage whenever anything becomes popular and smack it with a nerf bat because, well, while they're mentally unstable they aren't *criminals* so they don't want to use real bats.

This is why Morello has purposely made himself unpopular with the playerbase, he realizes that to become popular at Riot is to become paint a target on yourself and become subjected to corporate lynching. I'm pretty sure they already removed Ironstylus's brain and put it in a parrot (obviously resulting in severe dementia from the trauma of the procedure), forcing him to post on the GD forums in a happy way or else he doesn't get his mirror and birdseed.

-would just like to note <3 Riot, plz let Seuss get job there tyty.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 22 2013 13:39 GMT
#957
In Riot's defense a lot of the stuff that becomes flavor of the month IS probably too strong, but we've just became bitter and jaded to their process of them only nerfing one strong thing at a time because it's what has been discovered and being played by a large portion of the community.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 22 2013 13:49 GMT
#958
This isn't even an Udyr nerf/buff, it's more in line with a mini-rework (kind of like what they did with Taric). I think they have a list of champions they want to slightly rework the kits for and they're just going down the list, GG's performance with Udyr probably is irrelevant.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 22 2013 13:54 GMT
#959
On March 22 2013 22:49 thenexusp wrote:
This isn't even an Udyr nerf/buff, it's more in line with a mini-rework (kind of like what they did with Taric). I think they have a list of champions they want to slightly rework the kits for and they're just going down the list, GG's performance with Udyr probably is irrelevant.

That's how I feel too - changing Tiger to Physical is great considering the armor pen changes, and making Phoenix proc on first hit... I'm not sure how that stacks up to no longer getting the 24 AD/48 AP, but I feel its a tiny nerf.

I'm still waiting for them to make the graphic of phoenix flamebreath a LOT more visible though.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 22 2013 14:01 GMT
#960
On March 22 2013 13:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 13:13 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 22 2013 13:09 Requizen wrote:
On March 22 2013 13:07 kongoline wrote:
lol massive udyr buffs, pretty sure he will be nerfed soon after he becomes fotm

The 12% Armor/MR loss is pretty big, though, as well as no more Mana on Turtle. Will have to say how it falls out.

That was something that was recently added though, he was able to reach raidboss status even before he got the bonus stats. Gap closing has always been a big hindrance for him, so we'll see if adding a bunch of of move speed helps. Udyr just wants them to port Blink Dagger from Dota, he's be so happy.

It was added to replace the removal of dodge. Monkey's agility used to give him 3% dodge per stack.

If all those changes go through it'll be a net buff to jungle Udyr. The loss in the passive durability is made up for a tiny bit by the shield buffs to Turtle. Turtle losing mana may hurt lane Udyr, but if you take into account the mana cost cuts across the board it'll likely even out.

According to LoL Patch History it wasn't added until January of this year.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 101 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 132
ProTech65
Nina 43
ViBE28
Dota 2
420jenkins560
Counter-Strike
summit1g7213
minikerr27
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3231
Other Games
tarik_tv3485
RotterdaM305
ToD202
UpATreeSC65
Dewaltoss52
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick37318
BasetradeTV212
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 93
• musti20045 45
• RyuSc2 20
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix29
• Pr0nogo 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1208
• Shiphtur243
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
10h 36m
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 36m
IPSL
17h 36m
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.