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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 21 2013 09:52 onlywonderboy wrote: If there was a Pokemon MOBA this entire forum would convert, even if it sucked. In a heartbeat. Pikachu would be =Teemo. Calling it. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On March 21 2013 09:53 Dandel Ion wrote: In a heartbeat. Pikachu would be =Teemo. Calling it. I don't know how you could possibly say anything other than kennen | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:06 TheYango wrote: A Chinese DotA commentator made a joking reference to the idea of Disney DotA in one of his videos. Kingdom hearts was actually kinda fun. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:06 TheYango wrote: A Chinese DotA commentator made a joking reference to the idea of Disney DotA in one of his videos. Instead of Meepo, we have the 7 Dwarves(as one hero). | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 21 2013 09:55 Slusher wrote: I don't know how you could possibly say anything other than kennen pure skill | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
1. Extend EXP range. Thus the advantage gained from zoning is only gold. (Also reduces the snowballiness of Lanes in general, which Riot always has wanted) 2. Decrease the shared EXP bonus. This would merely make the dives less powerful as the 2 in the 2v1 would be crippled. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:18 BlueBird. wrote: There is a LOTR dota/moba on xbox arcade. I played it and did not enjoy myself a bit. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Not to mention that some potential solutions to blue/purple imbalance inherently push the game back toward mirrored lanes to begin with (one of the driving forces for lane swaps was the map asymmetry). | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On March 21 2013 09:52 onlywonderboy wrote: If there was a Pokemon MOBA this entire forum would convert, even if it sucked. [Patch 2.00: Johto] On March 21 2013 09:10 Sufficiency wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1aoz7x/one_of_the_best_wingsofdeath_quotes_i_have_heard/ lol. My favorites are: Report this baneling.. Going 1v5 and dying.. -and- No one wants to play protect the hydra and the freaking zealot jungler noob can't protect me. Everyone knows AP zealot is better than AD zealot. Report noob zealot pls. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:39 Alaric wrote: How does DotA fight lane asymetry, btw? Apart from lane arrangements being somewhat close to current LoL lane swaps if I heard it well. First pick to the Dire? Radiant is first pick because the Roshan imbalance actually favors Dire. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:35 TheYango wrote: Wait we finally have LoL in a state where teams are actually playing lane arrangements other than 1-1-2-jungle mirrored and we have people asking how to go back to that? Fuck that. I like my laning arrangement diversity than you very much. Not to mention that some potential solutions to blue/purple imbalance inherently push the game back toward mirrored lanes to begin with (one of the driving forces for lane swaps was the map asymmetry). I just want (from a spectators perspective) for there to be intrigue when the fog of war is taken away. And currently, low level dives have none unless the 1v3 jungler has sufficiently hid himself. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
TBH I'd actually say right now the problem with 1v2 gameplay is that 2v1 favors pushing too much compared to zoning the 1v2 laner. It should be a tradeoff so that teams might be playing their 2v1s in different ways rather than everyone just fast-pushing and 3v1 diving. Choosing between the global gold benefit of fast-pushing a tower vs. freezing the lane and denying their 1v2 laner harder should be a real decision. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:29 cLutZ wrote: Also, I thought of a few decent ways to limit the 2v1 meta: 1. Extend EXP range. Thus the advantage gained from zoning is only gold. (Also reduces the snowballiness of Lanes in general, which Riot always has wanted) 2. Decrease the shared EXP bonus. This would merely make the dives less powerful as the 2 in the 2v1 would be crippled. first of all how do you change the xp range/boni? and why do you want to make 2on1 lane setups less efficient? 2on1 lanes tempo up the games alot which is a good thing. also theres alot of finesse involved in setting up such lanes, lane-swapping and it really shows how adaptive and smart the players involved are. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:35 TheYango wrote: Wait we finally have LoL in a state where teams are actually playing lane arrangements other than 1-1-2-jungle mirrored and we have people asking how to go back to that? Fuck that. I like my laning arrangement diversity than you very much. Not to mention that some potential solutions to blue/purple imbalance inherently push the game back toward mirrored lanes to begin with (one of the driving forces for lane swaps was the map asymmetry). I just want tri-lanes  | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:41 TheYango wrote: Then the solution is to make 1v2/1v3 gameplay more interesting, rather than discouraging it. TBH I'd actually say right now the problem with 1v2 gameplay is that 2v1 favors pushing too much compared to zoning the 1v2 laner. It should be a tradeoff so that teams might be playing their 2v1s in different ways rather than everyone just fast-pushing and 3v1 diving. Choosing between the global gold benefit of fast-pushing a tower vs. freezing the lane and denying their 1v2 laner harder should be a real decision. That would favor buffs to outer towers in some way. Perhaps something like a Doran Shield-like property where attacks have a flat amount reduced after armor, so low levels have a tougher time killing them. Or something with aggro, which is much too easy to juggle (I.E. turrets try to execute). On March 21 2013 10:42 clickrush wrote: first of all how do you change the xp range/boni? and why do you want to make 2on1 lane setups less efficient? 2on1 lanes tempo up the games alot which is a good thing. also theres alot of finesse involved in setting up such lanes, lane-swapping and it really shows how adaptive and smart the players involved are. Changing XP range is really easy. You make it 1._ times what the current amount of units is. The other suggestion kinda sucks for supports in all cases so I would disfavor it. edit On March 21 2013 10:49 iCanada wrote: I think it could be too. And actually there is no real reason 1v2 lanes aren't being played ina zoning fashion as it is right now anyway. Supports like Taric, Ali, and Soraka could easily freeze waves and have other wave push by clumping up enemy creeps before waves meet so they focus fire their own creeps. If done right I think even like Chogath would only get 1 maybe 2 creeps per wave. Zoning only good if the other team doesn't push. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Honestly, with the way junglers play, it's more or less analogous to trilanes. It's just instead of having one support pulling 1-2 camps for XP, they have to clear more of the jungle because the jungle is easier to clear and because the per-camp gains of just doing 1-2 camps isn't good enough. But otherwise you more or less right now have the equivalent idea of one "babysitting" support and one "roaming" support. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On March 21 2013 10:41 TheYango wrote: Then the solution is to make 1v2/1v3 gameplay more interesting, rather than discouraging it. TBH I'd actually say right now the problem with 1v2 gameplay is that 2v1 favors pushing too much compared to zoning the 1v2 laner. It should be a tradeoff so that teams might be playing their 2v1s in different ways rather than everyone just fast-pushing and 3v1 diving. Choosing between the global gold benefit of fast-pushing a tower vs. freezing the lane and denying their 1v2 laner harder should be a real decision. I think it could be too. And actually there is no real reason 1v2 lanes aren't being played ina zoning fashion as it is right now anyway. Supports like Taric, Ali, and Soraka could easily freeze/pull waves and have other wave push by clumping up enemy creeps before waves meet so they focus fire their own creeps. If done right I think even like Chogath would only get 1 maybe 2 creeps per wave. | ||
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