[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 117

On March 12 2013 05:07 Sufficiency wrote:
Now Riot wants to nerf Akali? Lol.

Riot reactionary nerf at its best.

On March 12 2013 05:26 samthesaluki wrote:
I think nami can lane with most adcs depending how you play i agree she is prolly best in non solo play and i honestly thinkthink she is not played due to the fact its hard to sinergize in soloq and also most teams pick a support than can do a specific job where nami is good all round but doesnt excel,also ease of use in soloq why pick nami for her q when you can have taric that can point and click stun

On March 12 2013 05:19 MoonBear wrote:

I think he has more than that now. It's pretty ridic.

Regarding Nami: Nami is a very versatile support who can cover a lot of bases, and also offers a lot of zone control and utility. But her strength is exactly why she's under-represented. Why play Nami when you could be playing someone like Blitz/Thresh/Ali and make plays? At the same time, Lulu and Sona are already very well known champions who people are comfortable playing on and with while also crowding into the same strengths that Nami has. Simply understanding when you have kill/poke/tower potential and how each matchup is pretty important. At the same time, Nami has no defining lane partner. For example, Sona/Ez or Twitch/Lulu are both very powerful duo lanes that people understand and can execute to maximum potential. Nami on the other hand I think is going to need more time before figure out what matchups she actually works in. On a personal note, I think she might have potential as a partner to Koggles and as a counter to Taric but this is going into speculation since I've only played Nami twice.

Just wait till the Super Week recap comes out, we give dig their well deserved props.

As a team I've always liked them well enough, especially Scarra since his stream was a great resource when I was still new to the game. I know coming into the LCS I wasn't very high on dig for a couple reasons: precedent for epic throws, new line-up untested at a LAN, poor showing Week 1. It was clear they were trending up after Week 2 and Week 3, but Super Week proved they seem to be the real deal.

Edit: They have a show match against Gambit at MLG Dallas, probably not quite what you meant by worldwide stage but it'll give us a look at how they do against a top team.

On March 12 2013 05:24 Slusher wrote:
as much as I like Nami I can't see myself (intentionally) picking anything other than Zyra into Taric.

On March 12 2013 05:26 samthesaluki wrote:
I think nami can lane with most adcs depending how you play i agree she is prolly best in non solo play and i honestly thinkthink she is not played due to the fact its hard to sinergize in soloq and also most teams pick a support than can do a specific job where nami is good all round but doesnt excel,also ease of use in soloq why pick nami for her q when you can have taric that can point and click stun

On March 12 2013 05:36 Purge wrote:

Im not really that knowledgeable in bot lane strategies, nor have I played Nami on more than PBE prerelease, but I have seen her used in the StarWars League (I believe it was with a Kog'maw, but Ill have to look), so there has to be some credibility to the idea that she offers something other supports don't. Id honestly say that the Star Wars league is among the most skillful of all the tournaments Ive ever seen in League too.

Also moonbear your bans are hilarious.

On March 12 2013 05:07 Sufficiency wrote:
Now Riot wants to nerf Akali? Lol.

Riot reactionary nerf at its best.

On March 12 2013 05:29 Alaric wrote:

According to one of them they're looking at mechanics nerfs rather than numbers, which I could be pretty fine with. Without a pink ward (and that's a pretty hefty investment, unlike an anti-gank pink that can cost only 100 if you know where your opponent warded himself) Shroud is just too good, with the 0.5s unstealth being too short to really use it early game (not enough AS, slow making it hard to be in range to begin with) and the fade out time once she leaves the shroud being so long the stealth's effective range is actually really damn wide.
(I still have a hard time wrapping my head over the 8s 50 armour and MR steroid at max level, too. If you put it down right it's more potent than Jax's ult's active.)

On March 12 2013 06:00 wei2coolman wrote:

I guess they were frustrated how easily it was for akali to "outplay" people, especially at low health battles.

Akali is in a good state right now; sort of annoying how she keeps getting nerfed constatnly.

On March 12 2013 05:47 MoonBear wrote:

Nami's Q is only 60 mana at all levels and 875 range which is longer than Taric's 625 range 75 mana stun (and don't forget it's AoE so that's an extra 75 range or so). You should always be able to peel anything, and depending on your opponents even water-ball the AD Carry and Taric at the same. Alternatively, it's a really long range gank-stopper. The delay+AoE on her Aqua Prison even leads me to believe you could use it to counter someone's teleport if timed right.

Her support for burst damage isn't the same as Taric/Sona Q-Powerchord but you should be able to respond to aggression in the lane. With an increasing emphasis on aggression (driven by Asian play) and with people people getting better mechanically, there's a shift towards strong cs as well as using as much downtime in your autos/spells to get in harass or go for kills. I think Nami might work as a nice foil to that.

On March 12 2013 05:10 Chrispy wrote:
Akali deserves nerf. Not huge nerfs, just some small damage nerfs.

On March 12 2013 06:10 Lmui wrote:


From this thread:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=35474166#35474166

They're looking at changing her stealth so that she's immediately revealed when she leaves it, not half a second after she leaves.

On March 12 2013 06:08 kainzero wrote:

Nami's Aqua Prison is nowhere near as reliable as Taric's Dazzle, which is absolutely important. More important is that Nami's attack range is within Dazzle range, which means you have to rely on Ebb and Flow for harass, and Taric can heal it off.

Also, you can't peel everything. There have been a number of times I've missed Aqua Prison because of a juke by my own team when trying to get the enemy off of them. Nor is the AoE reliable enough to expect to get 2+ people every time (getting 4-man bubbles is a great feeling though).

On March 12 2013 06:10 Lmui wrote:


From this thread:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=35474166#35474166

They're looking at changing her stealth so that she's immediately revealed when she leaves it, not half a second after she leaves.

On March 12 2013 06:08 kainzero wrote:

Nami's Aqua Prison is nowhere near as reliable as Taric's Dazzle, which is absolutely important. More important is that Nami's attack range is within Dazzle range, which means you have to rely on Ebb and Flow for harass, and Taric can heal it off.

Also, you can't peel everything. There have been a number of times I've missed Aqua Prison because of a juke by my own team when trying to get the enemy off of them. Nor is the AoE reliable enough to expect to get 2+ people every time (getting 4-man bubbles is a great feeling though).

On March 12 2013 06:14 MoonBear wrote:

Hm. With Nami though you're setting up a kill lane. You're just aiming to passify any aggression and just stall the lane and farm. Nami is very counter-initiate in my opinion. Using her Q or R as initiation in most circumstances in my mind seems like a bit of a mistake. In other words, you make counterplays, not plays. Seems a but counter-intuitive I guess haha.

On March 12 2013 06:14 MoonBear wrote:

Hm. With Nami though you're setting up a kill lane. You're just aiming to passify any aggression and just stall the lane and farm. Nami is very counter-initiate in my opinion. Using her Q or R as initiation in most circumstances in my mind seems like a bit of a mistake. In other words, you make counterplays, not plays. Seems a but counter-intuitive I guess haha.


This makes me so sad. I'm slowly running out of champions I can actually play