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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
The other thing is that I have always been an innovative player. At IEM Hanover and MLG Anaheim, I was one of the first competitive Ezreal players at a time when everyone thought he was terrible. They have since nerfed him severely. Chauster and I had countless hours of bot lane practice in Korea that never came to fruition. As a very strange example, we practiced role swaps to run Janna Jayce lane and we had Chauster play Jayce. With the addition of Loco to our team, I was the first to start the Nunu Cait trend at IPL5. They have since nerfed Nunu as well. https://www.facebook.com/CLGDoublelift/posts/433219930092643 I think this boy is really living in a dreamworld and just cant adept to the new meta. All his stated innovated champions are just copy/pasted from China (Ezreal) and his nunu/cait was pretty much founded in EU after nunu was contested as top support. The problem from CLG is really that they cant adept with succesfull teamcomps. Just listen to his last interviews about other AD carries. Every region is trying out other champions but he is still living in his AD champions that were valid 6-8 months ago. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
On February 24 2013 07:14 Kenpachi wrote: wait why is Vi banned so often all of a sudden? Cause she's super strong all around. Tanky, does damages, good ganks, etc. People just realized it after seeing XJ9/SaintV/LCS. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 24 2013 07:06 AsnSensation wrote: lol I guess Shiphtur didnt have any school obligations after all http://www.newsoflegends.com/index.php/more-woes-for-ggu-4585/ I'm pretty sure at least the first time was actually due to exams, this seems like a recent development. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
"Chinese Ezreal" was a thing all the way back to IEM Guangzhou, when DL wasn't even on CLG yet. All 3 present Chinese teams played the hero (Weixiao actually ONLY played Vayne and Ezreal that tournament), despite NA almost unanimously calling him trash. | ||
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
On February 24 2013 07:41 TheYango wrote: If DL thought he was the only one playing Ezreal then he must have been deliberately blind to the fact that Ezreal had been a favorite AD of Chinese AD players for the better part of a year, including during the time he was in Korea. "Chinese Ezreal" was a thing all the way back to IEM Guangzhou. All 3 present Chinese teams played the hero, despite NA almost unanimously calling the him trash. its worse than that. There are like 8 AD carries to choose from, and millions of people playing this game. The arrogance to assume "I'm the one who started playing ezreal" is just unreal. If you're still picking an AD carry as your team's AD carry, you're not innovating. period. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
On February 24 2013 07:46 ItsFunToLose wrote: its worse than that. There are like 8 AD carries to choose from, and millions of people playing this game. The arrogance to assume "I'm the one who started playing ezreal" is just unreal. If you're still picking an AD carry as your team's AD carry, you're not innovating. period. Yea exactly! DL is really dreaming inside his head. So much fucking ignorance and this again doesnt help with the progress to become the better player if you cant admit your mistakes in becoming the better player if you need the involve in playstyle and changing champions. (like he didnt wanted to play OP version Urgot when they were in Korea) | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On February 24 2013 07:06 AsnSensation wrote: lol I guess Shiphtur didnt have any school obligations after all http://www.newsoflegends.com/index.php/more-woes-for-ggu-4585/ That really sucks. And they can't even really afford to replace Shiphtur imo as he's like the only thing good about that team. And while DL is pretty stupid sometimes he started playing Urgot in Korea so I dunno why you think he didn't? Like when they came to NA for a LAN while still in Korea DL broke out Urgot...so... you can fault him for maybe not adapting to the current meta (it's been three weeks of LCS, they didn't play in week 2 and he did fine in week 1) and for having an over inflated ego about what he did or didn't innovate but he was one of the first NA players to pick up Urgot because of his time in Korea. During their first trip to Korea he dedicated time to learning Urgot since he didn't know how to play it until they went to Korea and realized it was OP. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Of course, the lion's share of people reading his post don't watch any Korean/Chinese LoL so they're going to believe him. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 24 2013 08:00 TheYango wrote: Doublelift definitely learned a lot in Korea. It's just stupid that he's crediting his own brilliance rather than acknowledging how much of it came from other Korean/Chinese teams. Of course, the lion's share of people reading his post don't watch any Korean/Chinese LoL so they're going to believe him. Lion means 98% here, right? Elephant or whale may be more apt here. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Guys it's Doublelift. I don't know why you are all analyzing what he is saying, because everything he says are basically either extremely boasted or just utterly trashy. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On February 24 2013 08:00 TheYango wrote: Doublelift definitely learned a lot in Korea. It's just stupid that he's crediting his own brilliance rather than acknowledging how much of it came from other Korean/Chinese teams. Of course, the lion's share of people reading his post don't watch any Korean/Chinese LoL so they're going to believe him. Yeah don't get me wrong he says some really stupid shit. Let's not forget that this is the guy who used to look up to SYDTKO for theorycraft advice. But he's had one bad week of games so this idea of him not being able to adapt to the "meta" seems pretty stupid. Especially since I think most pro AD carries would share similar concerns of Randuin's being stupid right now and it being kind of lame that Riot nerfed almost every AD item in the game. After over a year Doublelift is still that one really dumb kid who's really good at LoL. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 24 2013 08:00 TheYango wrote: Doublelift definitely learned a lot in Korea. It's just stupid that he's crediting his own brilliance rather than acknowledging how much of it came from other Korean/Chinese teams. Of course, the lion's share of people reading his post don't watch any Korean/Chinese LoL so they're going to believe him. if you saw the post-game interview with ign (i think?) he mentioned him and chauster became the best after korea, and that he learned a lot. I don't think he's that blinded by it. though ez play exclusively came from chinese though. I think he's just really frustrated at how gimped ADC's are compared to their s2 counterparts. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
His fundamentals as a player were far more questionable (bad decision making, poorer mechanics, etc.), but as with Dan Dinh, I think people do a poor job of separating the quality of someone's play from the soundness of their ideas. Just because something is executed poorly doesn't means it won't be successful in the hands of a better player. SYDTKO was playing jungle Maokai weeks before Oddone picked it up and made it a common thing by playing it in a tournament. It's just that, well, SYDTKO is a far worse jungler than Oddone is so it didn't really look all that good when he played it. But the idea was sound, and Maokai became a very popular jungler not long after. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On February 24 2013 08:08 wei2coolman wrote: I think he's just really frustrated at how gimped ADC's are compared to their s2 counterparts. Of course he is. His team is built around him and he does less damage. No team in the world is built around their AD carry as much as CLG is. It isn't just Doublelift that has to adapt to ADC doing less damage it's his entire team. Like Hotshot probably isn't going to be able to get away with just building tanky no damage every game. edit: Yeah, I also remember SYDTKO saying months before Froggen or anyone else played it that Kog'Maw is a better AP carry than AD carry. But I also remember SYDTKO saying that J4/Leona beats every botlane and other really inane things that made little sense. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 24 2013 08:13 overt wrote: Of course he is. His team is built around him and he does less damage. No team in the world is built around their AD carry as much as CLG is. It isn't just Doublelift that has to adapt to ADC doing less damage it's his entire team. Like Hotshot probably isn't going to be able to get away with just building tanky no damage every game. It's not his fault CLG can't build a more balanced teamcomp. You have a toplaner that never wins his lane, you have a midlaner that's lucky to go even in mid. Seriously, he's the only one left to carry his team. I agree taht his play recently hasn't been particularly good, but that has to do with s2 ADC item nerfs, than it has to do with his mechanics. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
If you could pm me with any of these kind of tips for any heroes then I'll love you long time <3 | ||
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