EPT[Patch 3.02: Fake Quinn] General Discussion - Page 121
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LaNague
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 24 2013 03:03 ticklishmusic wrote: So, how viable/effective is a powerleveling kind of setup? Take wisdom runes, a Zilean on your team and mastery runes. It doesn't put you that far ahead for too long, so while you don't have a real advantage, runes that give real stats are better. It was more useful when it allowed for certain leveling breakpoints on junglers when camp XP was fixed, but that's harder to plan around with variable camp XP now. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
From what I've seen he pretty fast, but is he like... viable? Someone played it against me in ranked, did pretty well, so I tried it out in a couple normals. I dunno how I feel, pretty fast, decent ganks if you can close the gap. Felt like I didn't really apply any map pressure, but Q got so big so easily. Kind of mitigates his horrible early laning, and even if you behind gold it not that unreasonable to have 200+ damage on your Q at the twenty minute mark. Not unreasonable to have a big jungling item, boots 2 and a locket either, which is pretty damn good imo. Have you guys seen it? What you think? | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It's completely awesome, btw. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 24 2013 04:19 iCanada wrote: Anyone really experimented with Jungle Nasus? From what I've seen he pretty fast, but is he like... viable? Someone played it against me in ranked, did pretty well, so I tried it out in a couple normals. I dunno how I feel, pretty fast, decent ganks if you can close the gap. Felt like I didn't really apply any map pressure, but Q got so big so easily. Kind of mitigates his horrible early laning, and even if you behind gold it not that unreasonable to have 200+ damage on your Q at the twenty minute mark. Not unreasonable to have a big jungling item, boots 2 and a locket either, which is pretty damn good imo. Have you guys seen it? What you think? Welcome to TL  But seriously, TROLLS and Monte in particular have been using it for some time to a lot of success, and it was just in LCS. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 24 2013 03:14 TheYango wrote: It doesn't put you that far ahead for too long, so while you don't have a real advantage, runes that give real stats are better. It was more useful when it allowed for certain leveling breakpoints on junglers when camp XP was fixed, but that's harder to plan around with variable camp XP now. There's also the fact that junglers are now much more active outside the jungle, and at different times. When junglers used EXP runes they weren't really expected to leave the jungle until they were at least level 4-5 with double buffs, unless they were Shaco. Now all those refined experience calculations would be bunk even with fixed EXP because you're going to run into lanes and leech some anyway. EXP runes were also occasionally used for solo lane matchups where the first champion to hit level 6 could abruptly win using a flash ultimate, or eke out an advantage by threatening that. That's still a potential use, but as you say you're trading real stats (and one typically hard to find on items like Movement Speed, Spell Vamp and the like) for a temporary advantage. If you mess up at level 6 your runes are now basically useless. On February 24 2013 04:19 iCanada wrote: Anyone really experimented with Jungle Nasus? From what I've seen he pretty fast, but is he like... viable? Someone played it against me in ranked, did pretty well, so I tried it out in a couple normals. I dunno how I feel, pretty fast, decent ganks if you can close the gap. Felt like I didn't really apply any map pressure, but Q got so big so easily. Kind of mitigates his horrible early laning, and even if you behind gold it not that unreasonable to have 200+ damage on your Q at the twenty minute mark. Not unreasonable to have a big jungling item, boots 2 and a locket either, which is pretty damn good imo. Have you guys seen it? What you think? It's practically been the sole topic of discussion in the Nasus thread for the past two weeks. It's entirely viable, and practically guarantees your team victory if they can survive without you for the first 5 minutes of the game. Even if your presence is required in the lanes you can still farm Q as well as a solo lane and just build tanky. It also happens to be a strong counter to Xin Zhao, Hecarim, and Vi. Wither really, really screws them over hard. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 24 2013 04:19 iCanada wrote: Anyone really experimented with Jungle Nasus? Open up strategy subforum, Nasus thread, have a look at the last... 5? 6? pages. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
Spirit of the anicent golem + swiftness basically makes you unkiteable and w allows you to stick on anyone forever with 40%. Pretty sweet although obviously has weaknesses still if there is enough kiting potential (kockbacks/ups are often really bad for him). I've still done well even being counterjungled by some gold vi for 10 mins (and i suck), but I know strong counterjungling + strong enemy laners can really screw nasus's team over big and win the game before he ever gets close to strong. | ||
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Alaric
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
On February 24 2013 04:51 Alaric wrote: Well Nasus kinda weeps if the enemy team invades and steal his first blue. Thankfully his level 1 is really strong, so that shouldn't happen. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On February 24 2013 04:51 Alaric wrote: Well Nasus kinda weeps if the enemy team invades and steal his first blue. Lol, wither them level 1, get free fb. Take q from wolves + fb for level 2 anyway. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 24 2013 01:17 Ketara wrote: Discussion topic: Annie is awesome, why did everybody stop playing her? Because you can't reliably build warmogs and win the game. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 24 2013 06:04 wei2coolman wrote: Because you can't reliably build warmogs and win the game. Because her stun is too predictable. Also her pushing sucks. Flash Tibbers is awesome, but if they pick like, Morgana, you are screwed. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On February 24 2013 06:08 Lylat wrote: Go Froggenivia vs Kassapeke ! It's ironic that Xpeke's remembered for his Kassadin when this happened to him - | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On February 24 2013 06:52 KissBlade wrote: Dear god, EG needs to put Blitz on their auto ban list. They can never play against him =\. Hard initiation hard counter to late game farm play style. | ||
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