• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:43
CET 07:43
KST 15:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners4Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!25$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1568 users

[Patch 1.0.0.154: Preseason Balance Update 2] GD - Page 19

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 220 Next
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 16 2013 21:24 GMT
#361
On January 17 2013 06:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:17 Irave wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:10 Irave wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:46 nojitosunrise wrote:
Steelseries picking up clg.eu?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16pdd6/steelseries_becomes_head_sponsor_of_former_clgeu/

Hard to say, this guy has taken the whole anonymous thing to the extreme. Anonymous source and anonymous poster.

Does make sense in a way. Steel Series did just recently cut ties with SK and EG.

Would certainly be an interesting twist to the ex-CLG.EU saga. Especially if SteelSeries outbid EG for the final contract.

Yea which leads to more of the recent hot topic of esports journalism. Which annon source do we trust Slashers or random Reddit guy!

Yeah, that's why I said this. There really isn't any reason to believe this guy, but if this ends up being true I have a feeling whoever runs this account is going to use it regularly.

Well he did pick a great time to do this random troll or truthful post. It does seem possible. It's just odd that CLG hasn't been signed yet. M5 got picked up again real quick. So perhaps at the time Slasher was correct but behind the scenes is a big bidding war. Well the longest we will have to wait is the first week of February to find out.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 21:32:29
January 16 2013 21:29 GMT
#362
You guys have problems udyr doesn't. Udyr isnt that weak lategame you just need another strong initaitor or a strong kiter to force initiation, exactly like garen who isn't bad either. Thats not even a lategame thing its more a teamfight thing but you don't notice it as much midgame when ad carries dont do enough damage that running in makes you take lots of damage, he's not the only champ with that problem it just stands out more.

Also wukong does crazy dps with his ult and q damage reduction and e attack speed steriod, it's just getting out of lane phase is hard.
Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
January 16 2013 21:30 GMT
#363
What makes me happy is the kat nerfs. She makes my mid lane a pain.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
January 16 2013 21:33 GMT
#364
On January 17 2013 05:42 Complete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:01 kongoline wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:55 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:53 kongoline wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:44 kongoline wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:38 kainzero wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:01 TheYango wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:00 kainzero wrote:
speaking of the ezreal nerf, was the graves AS nerf really that bad? i hardly ever see him being played nowadays.

A change of 0.1 BAT is quite significant, and it's effect is heavily understated.

The effect of a BAT change is magnified through every single source of attack speed you get, because all attack speed is calculated as % of base.

that's great in theory...

but i don't want to talk about theory. do people feel that he's weak now? i mean, he still has the best base stats of any AD carry, he's still tanky as hell, smokescreen is still one of the best abilities, he has an escape ability that doubles as a steroid... and yet i hardly see him played anymore.

wat? graves is 2nd most popular ad after ezreal and 5th champion overall, its all we see nowadays in tournaments are ezreals and graves every game, corki is the one who got phased out with the nerfes and new items, every pro said corki is in a bad spot right now

Haven't seen a lot of Graves in NA recently, unless people are doing Lulu/Graves to push a lane hard. I feel like I've seen way more Cait/Vayne/Twitch than Graves.

http://www.lolking.net/champions/graves&region=na&league=gold#statistics
graves is played >25% of games across all elo in NA

I was talking about pro play, didn't realize we were talking about soloq

http://imgur.com/a/L7M9L#0
from riots qualifier, dont have statistics from ogn but im i've seen plenty of graves there too, 0 corkis though


Fair enough, I guess has made a decent resurgence, didn't realize he was picked that often during the qualifiers.

Edit: Like at IPL 5 he was only picked like twice three times and had a 1-1 0% win rate, so this resurgence is kinda recent.


http://imgur.com/a/L7M9L#0
WTF @ 65% blue 35% purple winrate? why? how?

edit: quoted wrong post


Weren't the top seeds blue side?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 16 2013 21:35 GMT
#365
On January 17 2013 06:18 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:49 sylverfyre wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:38 Ketara wrote:
As far as I know, the SC2 ladder system was one of the best parts of SC2, and worked really well.

Ha, look at me, I talk about SC2 in past tense. I'm mean.

What? I hated it. Give me Elo over that any day. (The matchmaking change can be implemented in any system)


The SC2 ladder does use an Elo system but hides the number. The general consensus I found with the SC2 ladder progress system (the visible part with 100-person leagues) was that most people hated it as it gave no practical information to the user.

I don't really see the difference. It doesn't matter to me if I'm 1346 or 1352, honestly. The actual number means diddly, just how close/far you are from hitting the next rung. And if they give a semi-accurate estimation of how far that is (which I have faith that they will), what's the difference? I would get the same feeling knowing I'm 1490 as I would being told Rank 1 Silver, it's just semantics at that point.
It's your boy Guzma!
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
January 16 2013 21:43 GMT
#366
On January 17 2013 03:40 Mensol wrote:
Who is Rainbow Thugs? i've seen him on pro streams lately.

he is my namja chingoo he streams too
www.twitch.tv/d4rkn3z
:)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
January 16 2013 21:43 GMT
#367
On January 17 2013 05:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:46 nojitosunrise wrote:
Steelseries picking up clg.eu?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16pdd6/steelseries_becomes_head_sponsor_of_former_clgeu/

Hard to say, this guy has taken the whole anonymous thing to the extreme. Anonymous source and anonymous poster.

Well, unless Snoopeh is trolling too.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16pdd6/steelseries_becomes_head_sponsor_of_former_clgeu/c7y3kwp
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 16 2013 21:48 GMT
#368
On January 17 2013 06:29 Slayer91 wrote:Also wukong does crazy dps with his ult and q damage reduction and e attack speed steriod, it's just getting out of lane phase is hard.

Def. monster with his ult available, and his dps during a aa->Q->E->aa for 3 seconds combo, but after that you're pretty down (I dunno what's better for long-term dps: Q as soon as possible for the reset and armor reduction uptime, or wait for E to come back everytime so you can combine 30% armor reduction with increased AS for 3 seconds).
But I meant that stuff like Volibear with his perma AS bonus, or other bruisers of the sort have better dps than him. He's also not that good a duelist because his ult is pretty easy to avoid (can't kill a Kha'Zix without baiting his jump first, for example) at least partially, and once his steroids run out he doesn't have much in the way of damage (he's still beast at being a tanky mofo, albeit way better in the context of a teamfight/initiation because of his passive).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 21:49:59
January 16 2013 21:49 GMT
#369
On January 17 2013 06:33 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:42 Complete wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:01 kongoline wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:55 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:53 kongoline wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:48 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:44 kongoline wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:38 kainzero wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:01 TheYango wrote:
[quote]
A change of 0.1 BAT is quite significant, and it's effect is heavily understated.

The effect of a BAT change is magnified through every single source of attack speed you get, because all attack speed is calculated as % of base.

that's great in theory...

but i don't want to talk about theory. do people feel that he's weak now? i mean, he still has the best base stats of any AD carry, he's still tanky as hell, smokescreen is still one of the best abilities, he has an escape ability that doubles as a steroid... and yet i hardly see him played anymore.

wat? graves is 2nd most popular ad after ezreal and 5th champion overall, its all we see nowadays in tournaments are ezreals and graves every game, corki is the one who got phased out with the nerfes and new items, every pro said corki is in a bad spot right now

Haven't seen a lot of Graves in NA recently, unless people are doing Lulu/Graves to push a lane hard. I feel like I've seen way more Cait/Vayne/Twitch than Graves.

http://www.lolking.net/champions/graves&region=na&league=gold#statistics
graves is played >25% of games across all elo in NA

I was talking about pro play, didn't realize we were talking about soloq

http://imgur.com/a/L7M9L#0
from riots qualifier, dont have statistics from ogn but im i've seen plenty of graves there too, 0 corkis though


Fair enough, I guess has made a decent resurgence, didn't realize he was picked that often during the qualifiers.

Edit: Like at IPL 5 he was only picked like twice three times and had a 1-1 0% win rate, so this resurgence is kinda recent.


http://imgur.com/a/L7M9L#0
WTF @ 65% blue 35% purple winrate? why? how?

edit: quoted wrong post


Weren't the top seeds blue side?

For this tournament, that can account for a chunk of the blue side wins, but you still have stats like OGN group stages having significant bias towards blue side.

I really think that blue and first pick should just be seperated. Higher seed (or winning coin flip) gets to choose EITHER picking order OR blue/purple side, the other team gets the remaining choice. (Discovered AHGL actually does exactly this, but needs to do it by doing picks in chat.)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 16 2013 21:56 GMT
#370
On January 17 2013 06:24 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:20 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:17 Irave wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 06:10 Irave wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:46 nojitosunrise wrote:
Steelseries picking up clg.eu?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16pdd6/steelseries_becomes_head_sponsor_of_former_clgeu/

Hard to say, this guy has taken the whole anonymous thing to the extreme. Anonymous source and anonymous poster.

Does make sense in a way. Steel Series did just recently cut ties with SK and EG.

Would certainly be an interesting twist to the ex-CLG.EU saga. Especially if SteelSeries outbid EG for the final contract.

Yea which leads to more of the recent hot topic of esports journalism. Which annon source do we trust Slashers or random Reddit guy!

Yeah, that's why I said this. There really isn't any reason to believe this guy, but if this ends up being true I have a feeling whoever runs this account is going to use it regularly.

Well he did pick a great time to do this random troll or truthful post. It does seem possible. It's just odd that CLG hasn't been signed yet. M5 got picked up again real quick. So perhaps at the time Slasher was correct but behind the scenes is a big bidding war. Well the longest we will have to wait is the first week of February to find out.

Yeah, just seems too perfect. And like JBright said he deleted his post so that's quite suspect lol. Best to just let things play out and wait for the official announcement
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 16 2013 21:57 GMT
#371
Fyi you can't stack biscuit+pot anymore.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
January 16 2013 21:59 GMT
#372
Anyone know if Foxfire Ahri is due on sale soon? Not even sure when/if it was last on sale.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 16 2013 22:00 GMT
#373
On January 17 2013 06:57 Diamond wrote:
Fyi you can't stack biscuit+pot anymore.


Could you ever? I tried to stack them, but they weren't working.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 16 2013 22:02 GMT
#374
On January 17 2013 07:00 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:57 Diamond wrote:
Fyi you can't stack biscuit+pot anymore.


Could you ever? I tried to stack them, but they weren't working.


Yep, was a trick to survive early ignites.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 16 2013 22:02 GMT
#375
Yeah, they used to be stackable
:3
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 16 2013 22:04 GMT
#376
On January 17 2013 07:00 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:57 Diamond wrote:
Fyi you can't stack biscuit+pot anymore.


Could you ever? I tried to stack them, but they weren't working.


You could.Read any support pre s3 guide and they tell you to do it in engagements :D.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 16 2013 22:05 GMT
#377
On January 17 2013 07:00 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:57 Diamond wrote:
Fyi you can't stack biscuit+pot anymore.


Could you ever? I tried to stack them, but they weren't working.

You can't stack Flask and potions if that's what you were thinking of.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 16 2013 22:06 GMT
#378
On January 17 2013 06:43 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:46 nojitosunrise wrote:
Steelseries picking up clg.eu?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16pdd6/steelseries_becomes_head_sponsor_of_former_clgeu/

Hard to say, this guy has taken the whole anonymous thing to the extreme. Anonymous source and anonymous poster.

Well, unless Snoopeh is trolling too.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16pdd6/steelseries_becomes_head_sponsor_of_former_clgeu/c7y3kwp

That saying is just one of the biggest reddit memes.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 16 2013 22:06 GMT
#379
On January 17 2013 07:00 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:57 Diamond wrote:
Fyi you can't stack biscuit+pot anymore.


Could you ever? I tried to stack them, but they weren't working.


you could stack them and be like "LOL 18 HP/SEC FU"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
January 16 2013 22:09 GMT
#380
On January 17 2013 07:06 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 06:43 Gahlo wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:46 nojitosunrise wrote:
Steelseries picking up clg.eu?

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16pdd6/steelseries_becomes_head_sponsor_of_former_clgeu/

Hard to say, this guy has taken the whole anonymous thing to the extreme. Anonymous source and anonymous poster.

Well, unless Snoopeh is trolling too.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/16pdd6/steelseries_becomes_head_sponsor_of_former_clgeu/c7y3kwp

That saying is just one of the biggest reddit memes.

I'm aware. Thing is, Krep and Snoopeh have both posted in the thread. Neither are denying it.
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 220 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 162
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 11197
Zeus 848
TY 362
PianO 254
EffOrt 212
Leta 180
Tasteless 164
soO 31
Bale 17
Icarus 8
League of Legends
JimRising 622
Counter-Strike
fl0m912
taco 57
Other Games
summit1g13301
tarik_tv12319
WinterStarcraft411
C9.Mang0253
goatrope107
NeuroSwarm81
ViBE69
NotJumperer3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick838
Counter-Strike
PGL161
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 40
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1323
• Jankos1320
• Stunt547
Upcoming Events
OSC
5h 17m
LAN Event
8h 17m
Korean StarCraft League
20h 17m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 3h
LAN Event
1d 8h
IPSL
1d 11h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 13h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.