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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 08:05:18
January 28 2013 08:04 GMT
#3221
In all honesty the problem with randuin's is

A. HoG gone. So there's that incentive gone
B. Warden's mail change. Before against certain lanes top(riven, panth for example), you could rush that thing and literally sit in lane all day and farm. Now it's a pretty bad laning item mostly because the hp5 is gone.
C. Funfire gives much the same stats, but lets you push&out trade on a lot of tops. It's not that much, but the sunfire damage does add up in trades. Randuin's is worth more later once the ADC has 3-5 items so you can delay it.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 28 2013 08:09 GMT
#3222
On January 28 2013 15:57 samthesaluki wrote:
ap tryn is not even good im stating this now its annoying to lane against but then thats it


Whether or not it's good doesn't stop us from trying to find an optimal build!

More seriously, it's inspired me to consider dusting off Tryndamere. Given that starting boots isn't as critical as before you could start Amp Tome + AP Runes, heal for 107 Health every 11.52 seconds, do 51 extra damage with E, and generally be an immovable object in Lane. Assuming you simply sell back the Amp Tome later (a 130g loss) it takes less than 4 minutes for it to pay its worth in potions, not counting the extra damage in trades.

That might sound like you're investing a lot in laning, but then what other champion can get 47+ Hp5 through their starting setup?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 28 2013 08:10 GMT
#3223
On January 28 2013 17:04 Amui wrote:
In all honesty the problem with randuin's is

A. HoG gone. So there's that incentive gone
B. Warden's mail change. Before against certain lanes top(riven, panth for example), you could rush that thing and literally sit in lane all day and farm. Now it's a pretty bad laning item mostly because the hp5 is gone.
C. Funfire gives much the same stats, but lets you push&out trade a lot. It's not that much, but the sunfire damage does add up in trades.


Ugh. Few things make me sadder than the fact that the untimely removal of HoG from the game means it will forever remain in the minds of so many as being a good item.
I am the Town Medic.
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
January 28 2013 08:10 GMT
#3224
On January 28 2013 15:50 Seuss wrote:

For a full AP build I wouldn't rush SV unless you were against an opponent with high magic damage, the 20% bonus healing isn't better than AP until you have a significant chunk of AP, and you get most of the CDR from the Kindlegem. Otherwise that build makes more sense to me than rushing Morello's.




I just finish the Kindle and build to SV well after DCap unless I'm up against a lot of AP.
Stealing Nashor Podcast - http://stealingnashor.libsyn.com | Stupid build enthusiast
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
January 28 2013 08:16 GMT
#3225
On January 28 2013 16:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think its very obvious that the NA meta is behind EU just from solo queue champions, the jungler pool is extremely limited. It seems the only thing NA plays that EU doesnt is draven. Otherwise it feels like EU has a wider pool in general.


i think what this means is that Draven needs an American-themed skin

his axes could be fireworks

or hotdogs or hamburgers
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 28 2013 08:19 GMT
#3226
On January 28 2013 17:16 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 16:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think its very obvious that the NA meta is behind EU just from solo queue champions, the jungler pool is extremely limited. It seems the only thing NA plays that EU doesnt is draven. Otherwise it feels like EU has a wider pool in general.


i think what this means is that Draven needs an American-themed skin

his axes could be fireworks

or hotdogs or hamburgers


He should throw eagles
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
January 28 2013 08:21 GMT
#3227
On January 28 2013 17:19 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 17:16 Dusty wrote:
On January 28 2013 16:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think its very obvious that the NA meta is behind EU just from solo queue champions, the jungler pool is extremely limited. It seems the only thing NA plays that EU doesnt is draven. Otherwise it feels like EU has a wider pool in general.


i think what this means is that Draven needs an American-themed skin

his axes could be fireworks

or hotdogs or hamburgers


He should throw eagles


he should throw freedom.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
January 28 2013 08:39 GMT
#3228
On January 28 2013 17:21 Cuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 17:19 sob3k wrote:
On January 28 2013 17:16 Dusty wrote:
On January 28 2013 16:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i think its very obvious that the NA meta is behind EU just from solo queue champions, the jungler pool is extremely limited. It seems the only thing NA plays that EU doesnt is draven. Otherwise it feels like EU has a wider pool in general.


i think what this means is that Draven needs an American-themed skin

his axes could be fireworks

or hotdogs or hamburgers


He should throw eagles


he should throw freedom.

He should throw games. Oh wait, most Dravens already do that.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 09:07:24
January 28 2013 08:53 GMT
#3229
Double IP weekend seems to bring out quite a few trolls. Normally get about 1 toll per 20 games or so, had 7 of my 10 games today with trolls. Skarner lock when we have a jungle, roaming AD Jungle Sona (I was the jungle T_T), straight feeding and more.

Still managed to only lose 8 elo overall today, so did best with what I had. However I raged at a couple of the trolls in my games, pretty disappointed in myself, normally am very positive but lost it at about game 5-6. Need to work on that
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 28 2013 09:13 GMT
#3230
Champions you think are overpowered but not everyone knows:
+ Show Spoiler +
AD Nidalee, AP Nidalee, Kassadin
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 28 2013 09:15 GMT
#3231
On January 28 2013 18:13 OutlaW- wrote:
Champions you think are overpowered but not everyone knows:
+ Show Spoiler +
AD Nidalee, AP Nidalee, Kassadin

I think we've all known Nidalee is a bullshit champion since forever.

Such a frustrating champion to play against.
liftlift > tsm
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
January 28 2013 09:20 GMT
#3232
cho
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
January 28 2013 09:32 GMT
#3233
On January 28 2013 18:20 samthesaluki wrote:
cho


Jungle or lane? I cant see how the s3 changes were anything but bad for lane cho.
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
January 28 2013 09:33 GMT
#3234
On January 28 2013 18:13 OutlaW- wrote:
Champions you think are overpowered but not everyone knows:
+ Show Spoiler +
AD Nidalee, AP Nidalee, Kassadin

Nidalee is just a bitch to lane against, Kassa can be shut down early (you need ganks pre 6).
Imo very underrated champions are Sejuani, Trundle and Volibear.
I love playing me some Voli now with all these Olafs running around my top lane :D
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
January 28 2013 09:36 GMT
#3235
On January 28 2013 18:13 OutlaW- wrote:
Champions you think are overpowered but not everyone knows:
+ Show Spoiler +
AD Nidalee, AP Nidalee, Kassadin


Ap kayle mid, I called it being broken early s3, no one believed me >.<
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
January 28 2013 09:36 GMT
#3236
On January 28 2013 18:20 samthesaluki wrote:
cho


no,

everyone knows cho is retarded broken thats why they're nerfing him.

my pick for unknown OP is Rumble and Volibear, although liquidians knows that Rumble is broken

On an unrelated note, apparently 1goal and 1dream is Deezer? He said hi to Link on Aphro's stream and Link responded with "sup deezer".

+ Show Spoiler +
for those who dont know or dont give a shit about starcraft 2 he was notorious for being a stupid (albeit hilarious) stream sniper/cheater/scumbag
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 28 2013 09:51 GMT
#3237
On January 28 2013 18:36 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 18:20 samthesaluki wrote:
cho


no,

everyone knows cho is retarded broken thats why they're nerfing him.

my pick for unknown OP is Rumble and Volibear, although liquidians knows that Rumble is broken

On an unrelated note, apparently 1goal and 1dream is Deezer? He said hi to Link on Aphro's stream and Link responded with "sup deezer".

+ Show Spoiler +
for those who dont know or dont give a shit about starcraft 2 he was notorious for being a stupid (albeit hilarious) stream sniper/cheater/scumbag

why hasnt that idiot killed himself yet

User was temp banned for this post.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
January 28 2013 09:57 GMT
#3238
On January 28 2013 18:51 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 18:36 Dusty wrote:
On January 28 2013 18:20 samthesaluki wrote:
cho


no,

everyone knows cho is retarded broken thats why they're nerfing him.

my pick for unknown OP is Rumble and Volibear, although liquidians knows that Rumble is broken

On an unrelated note, apparently 1goal and 1dream is Deezer? He said hi to Link on Aphro's stream and Link responded with "sup deezer".

+ Show Spoiler +
for those who dont know or dont give a shit about starcraft 2 he was notorious for being a stupid (albeit hilarious) stream sniper/cheater/scumbag

why hasnt that idiot killed himself yet


It's a wonder it hasn't happened by accident yet!
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
January 28 2013 09:59 GMT
#3239
So I have been playing Vi in the jungle a lot lately. She is really fun. I love the Q both for chasing and escaping. Fully charged q + flash lets you basically get out of anything, so as long as you don't get stuned. The ult is fairly insane both as hard initiation as well as running targets down that try to escape.
My problem with her is mainly the first clear as well as itemization. I usually start blue, but I also tried red and both somewhat work although i get way too low for my comfort. My skills are usually q->w->e but priority is r>q>e>w. I feel the early point in w helps with the clear.
Items go: Machete+5 -> madreds -> boots1 -> phage -> boots2 -> Frozen Mallet -> Maw -> Warmogs
I usually don't get further than that. Any suggestions on how to improve? I'm not sure the item build is optimal and I would like to get some ideas for later items and whether or not Maw is a good idea. I feel it really helps when dashing in because the shield from Maw + your own shield makes you a lot more tankier when engaging.
Any suggestions or ideas?
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
January 28 2013 10:04 GMT
#3240
On January 28 2013 18:59 BlueSpace wrote:
So I have been playing Vi in the jungle a lot lately. She is really fun. I love the Q both for chasing and escaping. Fully charged q + flash lets you basically get out of anything, so as long as you don't get stuned. The ult is fairly insane both as hard initiation as well as running targets down that try to escape.
My problem with her is mainly the first clear as well as itemization. I usually start blue, but I also tried red and both somewhat work although i get way too low for my comfort. My skills are usually q->w->e but priority is r>q>e>w. I feel the early point in w helps with the clear.
Items go: Machete+5 -> madreds -> boots1 -> phage -> boots2 -> Frozen Mallet -> Maw -> Warmogs
I usually don't get further than that. Any suggestions on how to improve? I'm not sure the item build is optimal and I would like to get some ideas for later items and whether or not Maw is a good idea. I feel it really helps when dashing in because the shield from Maw + your own shield makes you a lot more tankier when engaging.
Any suggestions or ideas?


I've had a bit of success recently at around 1800 elo NA copying XJ9's build/masteries/runes

http://www.lolking.net/guides/81095
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