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On January 11 2013 21:28 zulu_nation8 wrote:
In my past month of spamming solo queue and 5s, at no moment have I thought wow ADCs are really weak right now. I have thought that "assassins" like khazix/elise are a bit broken. Riven can also be a bit overpowered, as with eve, rest are w/e. I'd still take ezreal first pick in 5s over any of those champions.

Assassins are also a lot more stronger in solo queue than in 5s, where you'll find early snowball situations much less likely. In solo queue say one team has xin jungle/khazix mid/elise top, and the other has something like mundo/ahri/shen, one mistake by the latter team during pre lv6 lane phase will most likely cost them the game, whereas even if someone like ahri/shen get fb they have no way of snowballing it.

On January 11 2013 21:28 zulu_nation8 wrote:
In my past month of spamming solo queue and 5s, at no moment have I thought wow ADCs are really weak right now.

On January 11 2013 20:44 kongoline wrote:

people are blowing it out of proportion, i would say only thing what changed is that ad casters for the first time are viable while in S2 only ap assassins were viable and people are upset because meta has changed , im pretty sure fizz has still better burst than any ad assassin, if u think the game is too bursty right now look at current ogn games ad/ap carries arent replaced by assasins there but thanks to changes at least theres option to play them now which imo is fair, people should adopt and stop build 100% glass cannon in every game (also better path for cloth armor would help, atm its stupid i cant do nothing with it except tabis)

On January 11 2013 22:01 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Also, I think the biggest difference between the average high elo player and truly good players is the ability to play from behind. At lower elo people will get an advantage and not know what to do with it. At higher elo people will exploit advantages as hard as they can, but often too hard, and thus throw. But there are rarely players who can stop the other laner or jungler from snowballing. It requires a lot of mental control to not get frustrated and knowingly put yourself even more behind in order to save the game. The most apparent difference I've noticed between games with legitimate good players and a similar elo game with unknowns is that no matter how behind, good solo/ADs will always find enough farm somehow and be a factor late game, and no matter the early advantage, by the first 1st or 2nd team fight, both teams will be relatively even. Good players are really balanced and can get strong in all situations, those qualities are also what makes a good 5s player.

On January 11 2013 17:45 Two_DoWn wrote:

I want in.

On January 11 2013 22:40 phyvo wrote:


I WANT IN TOO. I don't even have to contribute any crazy ideas, I just want to make them happen.

The big question though is what's the forum equivalent of a cone of silence?

On January 11 2013 22:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:


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On January 11 2013 21:39 BlueSpace wrote:

I think Kha and also Elise to some extent do stupid amounts of damage with almost no items. So no matter how early game goes, they are always a threat.

On January 11 2013 21:39 BlueSpace wrote:

I think Kha and also Elise to some extent do stupid amounts of damage with almost no items. So no matter how early game goes, they are always a threat.

On January 11 2013 23:33 EquilasH wrote:


Elise is a horrible example - Elise is one of the champions in the game that suffers the most from being behind, but on the other hand she's also THE biggest lane bully.

On January 11 2013 23:47 sob3k wrote:


Even if she does suffer from being behind (and I'm not sure I buy that), it doesn't change the fact that her damage is extremely high with little itemization, hence her use as a support in Korea currently.