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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On January 12 2013 00:18 AsnSensation wrote: Whats with Riot overkilling Eve? 3 PBE updates in a row with nerfs. AP assassins are clearly an issue with the game right now. hue | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On January 12 2013 00:18 AsnSensation wrote: Whats with Riot overkilling Eve? 3 PBE updates in a row with nerfs. Eve is a terrible champion. Stealth is one of the worst mechanics introduced to any multiplayer game, ever. | ||
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TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
Minor update to said changes There's hitting her with the nerf bat, fine she needed it. But beating her to a bloody pulp? Her ultimate range is down to 650 from 800, and the cooldown is way up. Also her Hate Spike ( Q ) mana cost increased to 16/22/28/34/40 from 14/18/22/26/30. Man. Hope they don't break too many of her limbs so I can at least crawl around the jungle. Though her stealth will still be the best side of her and hopefully she will still be viable. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On January 12 2013 00:00 EquilasH wrote: The fact that she can be played support just means she doesn't need a lot of items to be useful, but the thing is that if you fall behind with Elise all you have is essentially your ranged form since if you go melee without any tankiness you'll just die and you also won't have much bonus AP so you don't deal comparable damage to the opposing Irelia/Jax/Riven/w.e. Edit: What I'm saying is that when compared to the fotm of top laners taking a second support role when you're behind is generally worse than how other top laners can perform when behind. The thing with Elise is that if you play her smart you will barely ever fall behind. I honestly believe she doesn't lose a single matchup both top and mid (and wins most of them). How is elise worse off with a disadvantage in lane than a normal top? She has fine stats and gets free armor and MR plus a ranged attack if she feels like it, sustain, and is a nightmare to dive. She last hits under tower excellently with free magic damage too and has free skills to help. I don't even understand your argument. How is it a disadvantage to have free stats and a ranged attack when you are behind? And i'm not even getting into her percent health damage. You say "the thing is that if you fall behind with Elise all you have is essentially your ranged form since if you go melee without any tankiness you'll just die", well great, if you are so far behind you can't fight the other laner you just have to sit back and CS and ranged harass. How is that worse than being like darius or jarvan when you are behind? They can't go toe to toe and they cant CS without walking up and being beaten on, they have straight up less options. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 12 2013 00:42 TSBspartacus wrote: Newest PBE changes Minor update to said changes There's hitting her with the nerf bat, fine she needed it. But beating her to a bloody pulp? Her ultimate range is down to 650 from 800, and the cooldown is way up. Also her Hate Spike ( Q ) mana cost increased to 16/22/28/34/40 from 14/18/22/26/30. Man. Hope they don't break too many of her limbs so I can at least crawl around the jungle. Though her stealth will still be the best side of her and hopefully she will still be viable. Me no like this flask change  | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Regarding Ezreal he isn't too strong, really, don't forget that the community is fickle with a shit ton of inertia. And almost back to 50% W/L, playing in the early-middle afternoon so much better than on the week-end for my nerves and opinion of the community. Having botched my placements will only put me at 1250 if I win the next one for 9-9, but it's 'k, you gotta climb anyway and I still do some dumbass throws sometimes so it'll teach me if even there I make my team lose. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Plus, since they "nerfed" her stealth, they made her more combat viable. So of course they need to nerf the crap out of her now. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Also, I really enjoy the new Assasin meta, because Rammus is awesome against assasins. Both the AP ones like Kat and the physical ones like Talon or even Kha'Zix. ALSO the awesome thing about Rammus is the Skarner ultimate 2.0. You can taunt as enemy is flashing and after they flash they'll just run back at you. Whenever that happens I write in all chat "I used to main Skarner" "YOU WON'T TAKE AWAY MY ABUSES" | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Whats up with them just picking 1 champion specifically every patch and ruining them? Don't see how that does anything for the game | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 12 2013 00:52 Scip wrote: I usually don't want to be overdramatic about changes, but that Flask nerf will almost single-handedly destroy the 0/9/21 mastery setup for junglers. Dunno about others, but the main point of it was getting machete+flask at lvl1 (was only possible on things like Fiddle/Nunu but still. Also, I really enjoy the new Assasin meta, because Rammus is awesome against assasins. Both the AP ones like Kat and the physical ones like Talon or even Kha'Zix. ALSO the awesome thing about Rammus is the Skarner ultimate 2.0. You can taunt as enemy is flashing and after they flash they'll just run back at you. Whenever that happens I write in all chat "I used to main Skarner" "YOU WON'T TAKE AWAY MY ABUSES" Aren't you abusive enough as a girlfriend already? | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On January 12 2013 00:57 Seuss wrote: I was being a little silly, but I'll totally organize and chair the TeamLiquid Research Operations and Learning Lab Syndicate if people are actually interested. It would actually be amazing to just have a group that every once in a while puts out an article about some ridiculous build/strat every once in a while. Esp. if it actually works. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11826 Posts
On January 12 2013 00:58 VayneAuthority wrote: its fine if they gut eve. but only if they also gut amumu, elise, ezrael, kha'zix, katarina, lee sin(they are), lulu, nidalee, nunu, shaco, singed, taric, twisted fate, and zyra. Whats up with them just picking 1 champion specifically every patch and ruining them? Don't see how that does anything for the game Eve is fucking annoying, and if she gets nerfed to the ground and not played again, ever, i won't shed a single tear. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Last I heard the flask change was to ACTUALLY cost 345. Currently appears bugged. I still think the 2ward 9pot openings are 'too good' and this might be partially because there aren't a lot of good level 1 items besides boots, and boots are less necessary now. Cloth is a good starting item but obviously situational. I could see a pink start top lane countering pots ward, clearing out their starting ward so they can be ganked. | ||
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