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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 08 2013 05:36 GMT
#6641
pr0lly l0l is a douchebag wow
lol
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
January 08 2013 05:37 GMT
#6642
Does Thresh's autoattacks count as melee or ranged for the purposes of pickpocket/tiamat/hurricane/phage?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 08 2013 05:38 GMT
#6643
On January 08 2013 14:36 arb wrote:
pr0lly l0l is a douchebag wow
lol


explain please
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 05:41:24
January 08 2013 05:39 GMT
#6644
On January 08 2013 14:29 Vlanitak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 14:27 Amethyst21 wrote:
On January 08 2013 14:24 Vlanitak wrote:
I have been up for over 24 hours now, firts baby sitting 5 kids, then staying up to baby sitt some more. Only thing that keeps me up is sheer willpower of epik porportions ><


My first question is : God why.

Trust me its worth it. find the slightly hidden words and the hidden meanings :D it is a puzzle

Something to do with Epik Gamer...uh, EG/TSM under 1 roof and you're the manager?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 08 2013 05:41 GMT
#6645
On January 08 2013 14:38 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 14:36 arb wrote:
pr0lly l0l is a douchebag wow
lol


explain please

just watching his general comments on stream
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 08 2013 05:44 GMT
#6646
On January 08 2013 14:03 Amarok wrote:
Ryze buffs? Really?


Where did you see buffs? They nerfed his ratios on every single one of his spells. At least they didn't go ahead with making his Q cost 20 more mana at max rank, that was stupid.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 08 2013 05:52 GMT
#6647
Rhux doing work on Tryndamere right now
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
January 08 2013 05:53 GMT
#6648
On January 08 2013 14:44 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 14:03 Amarok wrote:
Ryze buffs? Really?


Where did you see buffs? They nerfed his ratios on every single one of his spells. At least they didn't go ahead with making his Q cost 20 more mana at max rank, that was stupid.


Never mind, he was just being brought back closer to his current state from a previous PTR nerf.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 08 2013 06:06 GMT
#6649
On January 08 2013 14:36 arb wrote:
pr0lly l0l is a douchebag wow
lol

Who?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 08 2013 06:07 GMT
#6650
wow, After like 25 games with ziggs I have changed my opinion a bit on him, he is very strong champ who plays very interestingly. You really have to get used to him, but once you get a feel for his passive and some basic strats he just wrecks teamfights and his pushing power is top3 in the game at least, you can defend a tower indefinetely. His ult is just fantastic in assisting top and bot without even having to leave mid.

I highly recommend him to anyone who like high skill mids

If you want to try him I a have a few tips that have made me wayyy more effective.

1. Passive auto harass as much as humanly possible early game, auto Q combos are best and easy to hit+ set up your passive again faster.

2. Do not go for kills with his ult unless you are 1v1 or trying to snipe somone backing. Its far better to use the ult early, whenever you think you have the best chance of hitting the greatest number of people. For teamfights and assisting other lanes this is usually right after initiation when everyone is jumping in and is occupied with that.

3. Save your satchel charge for emergencies unless you are TOTALLY safe and wont need the interrupt.

4. If you get jumped on make sure you cast your Q directly ontop of yourself. Its not like other skillshots and you will die and miss it if you try to use it directionally like another skillshot at close range.

5. In teamfights your E is like your little fortress, when shit starts going down unless nobody is noticing you (rare), you want to cast it very close if not ontop of you and use it as a defensive position, sit on it and kite people who jump you around inside it. This has improved my survivability and damage HUGELY. Casting it at max range offensively is a bad idea in 90% of fight situations.

6. For dueling the same tip applies, especially to melee, save that shit and cast it close or on you. Your dueling is actually really strong with the mines, if you miss them or waste them at long range you are just blew 90% of your CC and half your damage.

7. Auto all the time in fight, but dont go in to land an auto. Buy lichbane really lategame makes you a fucking scary 1v1 champ.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
January 08 2013 06:32 GMT
#6651
Yes! Sejuani free week, was hoping to give her a try in the jungle.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 08 2013 06:34 GMT
#6652
On January 08 2013 15:32 Amarok wrote:
Yes! Sejuani free week, was hoping to give her a try in the jungle.


Don't see that excitement lasting long. I like jungling stupid shit like Akali and Sej makes me cry in a dark corner at night.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 06:42:22
January 08 2013 06:41 GMT
#6653
haha, every time I play ranked and someone picks sejuani on my team people are always like "isn't she pretty bad?", and the guy is like "naw she's strong man, people just suck with her", and we're all like "alright I heard some pros says she's good, lets do this" and then 2-11 sejuani into lose.

Sejuani, The Worthless Warthog
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
January 08 2013 06:53 GMT
#6654
On January 08 2013 15:34 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 15:32 Amarok wrote:
Yes! Sejuani free week, was hoping to give her a try in the jungle.


Don't see that excitement lasting long. I like jungling stupid shit like Akali and Sej makes me cry in a dark corner at night.


Haven't come across her that often but when I have her ultimate has been on mummy levels of game changing. I know she's considered weak, I just figure for such a huge payoff there's gotta be a way of make the rest of the game work for her.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
ShurykaN
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States338 Posts
January 08 2013 06:55 GMT
#6655
I always thought Sejuani was decent enough. She seems like fat-amumu with slows.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35163 Posts
January 08 2013 07:12 GMT
#6656
On January 08 2013 15:55 RebelSlayer wrote:
I always thought Sejuani was decent enough. She seems like fat-amumu with slows.

Because she largely is. When Amumu is banned and I want to play Amumu, I play Sejuani.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 08 2013 07:48 GMT
#6657
Her Q cooldown is way too long from what I've experienced playing her over about 40-50 games.

There are other parts of her kit which make her less than optimal but that dash CD is so long. She also suffers from E being her primary ganking tool outside of her ult while leveling W allows her to jungle at a decent speed.

Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 08 2013 07:54 GMT
#6658
On January 08 2013 13:20 arb wrote:
is not getting a point in w on ADC Ezreal good? Robert Lee doing it on stream, looks pretty good(lower cd escape too).

also is PFE auto attack smoother than the regular ones? really looks like it


I completely skip on W until level 13 now. I find it completely useless in terms of damage, and the only useful time the AS% is helpful is when doing dragons (but still not worth it).

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 08 2013 08:01 GMT
#6659
On January 08 2013 16:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Her Q cooldown is way too long from what I've experienced playing her over about 40-50 games.

There are other parts of her kit which make her less than optimal but that dash CD is so long. She also suffers from E being her primary ganking tool outside of her ult while leveling W allows her to jungle at a decent speed.


Her Q CD is fine. It's basically the same as all comparable movement skills (barring Kassadin ult, seeing as that's his ult).
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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
January 08 2013 08:26 GMT
#6660
On January 08 2013 16:54 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 13:20 arb wrote:
is not getting a point in w on ADC Ezreal good? Robert Lee doing it on stream, looks pretty good(lower cd escape too).

also is PFE auto attack smoother than the regular ones? really looks like it


I completely skip on W until level 13 now. I find it completely useless in terms of damage, and the only useful time the AS% is helpful is when doing dragons (but still not worth it).



Technically getting 1 point in it to stack passive is "better" damage.

In a real game just ignoring it and focusing on landing q's/e'ing right is better 99% of the time, from personal experience.

E does ALOT of damage >.<.
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