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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 10:37:24
January 08 2013 10:30 GMT
#6681
On January 08 2013 19:18 qanik wrote:
Holy shit xj9 is so ridiculously good. I was just watching his stream for 2mins and he did an insane baron steal, aced enemy team and didn't die while tanking all of them. He litterally has the best score in almost most of his games.. just wow..


That was the best game ever to watch. Literally a 1 man carry, 3 to 15 in kills to start off. Then he ends 16/1. Ice born gauntlet is just incredible on Hecarim, would say more but, totally inspired gotta que!

On a side note is NLB having LoL problems or is it ustream?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 08 2013 10:35 GMT
#6682
xj9 is a weird dude but my favorite jungler
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 08 2013 10:44 GMT
#6683
On January 08 2013 19:30 Baffels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 19:18 qanik wrote:
Holy shit xj9 is so ridiculously good. I was just watching his stream for 2mins and he did an insane baron steal, aced enemy team and didn't die while tanking all of them. He litterally has the best score in almost most of his games.. just wow..


That was the best game ever to watch. Literally a 1 man carry, 3 to 15 in kills to start off. Then he ends 16/1. Ice born gauntlet is just incredible on Hecarim, would say more but, totally inspired gotta que!

On a side note is NLB having LoL problems or is it ustream?


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nicegametvhd this one works for me
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
January 08 2013 10:45 GMT
#6684
Ez is all about the shiv + gauntlet
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
January 08 2013 10:47 GMT
#6685
On January 08 2013 18:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Veigar's only good late against people who aren't familiar with Veigar - as in, people who don't just get a QSS and completely negate all of his utility and a good chunk his damage =\

When mid and adc both have a QSS, and bruisers have a GA, wtf are you gonna do? Drop your load on the support? The amumu/maokai/mundo and take like 40% of their hp? What do you do after that? There's a reason Veigar is not really played competitively, because his kit is just leagues behind the good AP carries.

There's also zero reason to build a team comp around Veigar when you can build a team comp around any other ap carry...


Isn't Nyjacky Veigar even possible ban material? I'm sure i've seen some Veigar bans in the last week or so.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 08 2013 10:57 GMT
#6686
On January 08 2013 19:47 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 18:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Veigar's only good late against people who aren't familiar with Veigar - as in, people who don't just get a QSS and completely negate all of his utility and a good chunk his damage =\

When mid and adc both have a QSS, and bruisers have a GA, wtf are you gonna do? Drop your load on the support? The amumu/maokai/mundo and take like 40% of their hp? What do you do after that? There's a reason Veigar is not really played competitively, because his kit is just leagues behind the good AP carries.

There's also zero reason to build a team comp around Veigar when you can build a team comp around any other ap carry...


Isn't Nyjacky Veigar even possible ban material? I'm sure i've seen some Veigar bans in the last week or so.

I don't think I've ever beat Nyjacky on either Anivia or Veigar, he's RETARDED. We'd be completely owning his entire team and he'd be like 18/2/x and full comboing any champ on cds.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 08 2013 11:00 GMT
#6687
Miss Fortune so fun, so much damage toooooooooooo
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 08 2013 11:07 GMT
#6688
Dandy carrying so hard right now
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 08 2013 11:08 GMT
#6689
Ezreal was the shining beacon of MVP and he failed that last fight. Don't think they could have won, either way.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 08 2013 11:10 GMT
#6690
mvp white never puts pressure on the enemy team when they have baron :<
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 11:15:03
January 08 2013 11:12 GMT
#6691
THAT EQUALIZER WAS SO CLUTCH

nm thought it hit ezreal, i guess it just split him off to the side

rumble still caught ez super hard there
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 08 2013 11:16 GMT
#6692
Why is there going to be another champion like Blitz. I cannot stand moves that change the flow of a game with little risk involved.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 11:22:30
January 08 2013 11:18 GMT
#6693
The problem with Blitz in League is that hook is an inherently ''broken'' mechanic in a game where these don't exist. I think the addition of another such mechanic is a step in the right direction.
+ Show Spoiler +
Daily reminder that it's filled with these broken mechanics that change the flow of the game without much risk and it's still much easier to solo carry in dota than in league


On January 08 2013 20:20 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
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On January 08 2013 19:17 OutlaW- wrote:
I only agree with Ryze and Kassadin. With Morde it might be viable if they have no CC, same with Swain. Irelia will never deal enough damage to out damage 5 people while surviving, remember that she's melee and all of her damage is from melee. Nasus is shit 1v5 because you die without touching 1 guy if everyone has 6 items.

On January 08 2013 19:18 qanik wrote:
Holy shit xj9 is so ridiculously good. I was just watching his stream for 2mins and he did an insane baron steal, aced enemy team and didn't die while tanking all of them. He litterally has the best score in almost most of his games.. just wow..


I've been watching him without sound for weeks now. He's legit.

List is missing Akali, I've literally seen a 1v5 straight up pentakill by one of my plat friends


Entirely dependant on having true vision, but in the end I'll agree, you can work around it.
Another one that I would add would be midalee.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 08 2013 11:20 GMT
#6694
On January 08 2013 19:17 OutlaW- wrote:
I only agree with Ryze and Kassadin. With Morde it might be viable if they have no CC, same with Swain. Irelia will never deal enough damage to out damage 5 people while surviving, remember that she's melee and all of her damage is from melee. Nasus is shit 1v5 because you die without touching 1 guy if everyone has 6 items.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 19:18 qanik wrote:
Holy shit xj9 is so ridiculously good. I was just watching his stream for 2mins and he did an insane baron steal, aced enemy team and didn't die while tanking all of them. He litterally has the best score in almost most of his games.. just wow..


I've been watching him without sound for weeks now. He's legit.

List is missing Akali, I've literally seen a 1v5 straight up pentakill by one of my plat friends
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
January 08 2013 11:23 GMT
#6695
best game was a solomid tournment reginald played teemo vs vs nyjacky vegiarrr fed like 1-10 lawl
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 08 2013 11:34 GMT
#6696
On January 08 2013 17:46 sob3k wrote:
I was thinking about this...

What do you guys feel are the strongest lategame AP carries? I'm talking like near or at 6 item.

I mean we definitely have like
Ryze
Veigar is pretty damn scary late

but what do you guys think of this?

It came up because I was playing a bunch of AP Ezreal, and realized his scaling is just madness if you get fully geared up. His Q ends up with a .95 ap ratio on a 2.4 second CD at 1100 range. Then his .8 on W, and hes impossible to catch because he has blink on a five second cd that also happens to wreck shit with a .75 on it as well. And he destroys teamfights with his ult as well as that being on about a 40 second CD. He's just an absolute monster if you can get to that point who fears nothing because nothing can catch him and he can dodge anything.


I have always believed Karthus is THE best AP carry when it come to 6 items. Maybe not 1v1, but he does soooo much damage with 6 items to an enemy team. Karthus+Ryze have comparable damage, but Ryze is definitely a 1v1 AP carry and does Karth's damage to 1 target at a time.

AP maps is pretty underrated, but I feel that despite his scaling, he gets outclassed overall. No cc, all skillshot dependent, and pretty meh in lane if he can't poke well. He can't really shove a lane back, even once he gets ulti. He can use it on one/two waves, and then hes stuck with AA'ing before it comes back up.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 08 2013 11:43 GMT
#6697
On January 08 2013 19:17 OutlaW- wrote:
I only agree with Ryze and Kassadin. With Morde it might be viable if they have no CC, same with Swain. Irelia will never deal enough damage to out damage 5 people while surviving, remember that she's melee and all of her damage is from melee. Nasus is shit 1v5 because you die without touching 1 guy if everyone has 6 items.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 19:18 qanik wrote:
Holy shit xj9 is so ridiculously good. I was just watching his stream for 2mins and he did an insane baron steal, aced enemy team and didn't die while tanking all of them. He litterally has the best score in almost most of his games.. just wow..


I've been watching him without sound for weeks now. He's legit.


You can say any champ shouldn't be able to 1v5 against CC though.

Really surprised no-one mentioned Jax in this 1v5 discussion, IMO he's the best 6 item champion in the game.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 08 2013 11:45 GMT
#6698
On January 08 2013 20:34 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 17:46 sob3k wrote:
I was thinking about this...

What do you guys feel are the strongest lategame AP carries? I'm talking like near or at 6 item.

I mean we definitely have like
Ryze
Veigar is pretty damn scary late

but what do you guys think of this?

It came up because I was playing a bunch of AP Ezreal, and realized his scaling is just madness if you get fully geared up. His Q ends up with a .95 ap ratio on a 2.4 second CD at 1100 range. Then his .8 on W, and hes impossible to catch because he has blink on a five second cd that also happens to wreck shit with a .75 on it as well. And he destroys teamfights with his ult as well as that being on about a 40 second CD. He's just an absolute monster if you can get to that point who fears nothing because nothing can catch him and he can dodge anything.


I have always believed Karthus is THE best AP carry when it come to 6 items. Maybe not 1v1, but he does soooo much damage with 6 items to an enemy team. Karthus+Ryze have comparable damage, but Ryze is definitely a 1v1 AP carry and does Karth's damage to 1 target at a time.

AP maps is pretty underrated, but I feel that despite his scaling, he gets outclassed overall. No cc, all skillshot dependent, and pretty meh in lane if he can't poke well. He can't really shove a lane back, even once he gets ulti. HJe can use it on one/two waves, and then hes stuck with AA'ing before it comes back up.


Karthus probably has the best teamfight of any champ in the game at 6 item stage when you think about it.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 08 2013 11:48 GMT
#6699
karth is great at low elo that never know how to push and games last forever 6items guarenteed 1v5 a team
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 08 2013 11:52 GMT
#6700
WOW THAT SNIPE
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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