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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 12:04:52
January 08 2013 11:54 GMT
#6701
Should combine the OGN thread with NLB since its the same teams now.

What happened to MVP white? IMP doing all he can, but its like hes alone out there...
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 08 2013 11:54 GMT
#6702
link plz
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
January 08 2013 11:58 GMT
#6703
On January 08 2013 20:54 HeavOnEarth wrote:
link plz


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nicegametvhd

NLB diamond league, GSG vs LG-IM next.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 08 2013 12:01 GMT
#6704
On January 08 2013 20:45 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 20:34 Cloud9157 wrote:
On January 08 2013 17:46 sob3k wrote:
I was thinking about this...

What do you guys feel are the strongest lategame AP carries? I'm talking like near or at 6 item.

I mean we definitely have like
Ryze
Veigar is pretty damn scary late

but what do you guys think of this?

It came up because I was playing a bunch of AP Ezreal, and realized his scaling is just madness if you get fully geared up. His Q ends up with a .95 ap ratio on a 2.4 second CD at 1100 range. Then his .8 on W, and hes impossible to catch because he has blink on a five second cd that also happens to wreck shit with a .75 on it as well. And he destroys teamfights with his ult as well as that being on about a 40 second CD. He's just an absolute monster if you can get to that point who fears nothing because nothing can catch him and he can dodge anything.


I have always believed Karthus is THE best AP carry when it come to 6 items. Maybe not 1v1, but he does soooo much damage with 6 items to an enemy team. Karthus+Ryze have comparable damage, but Ryze is definitely a 1v1 AP carry and does Karth's damage to 1 target at a time.

AP maps is pretty underrated, but I feel that despite his scaling, he gets outclassed overall. No cc, all skillshot dependent, and pretty meh in lane if he can't poke well. He can't really shove a lane back, even once he gets ulti. HJe can use it on one/two waves, and then hes stuck with AA'ing before it comes back up.


Karthus probably has the best teamfight of any champ in the game at 6 item stage when you think about it.


I'd agree pretty much. Vlad can compare to him though. Silly champ is silly.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 12:01:34
January 08 2013 12:01 GMT
#6705
Edit: wrong thread
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 08 2013 12:07 GMT
#6706
Why do people get Statikk Shiv over PD or Ghostblade? They are around the same gold, and the extra stats from PD or active (& ArP) from Ghostblade look much better.
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 08 2013 12:09 GMT
#6707
Just on the Nasus might be able to 1v5 discussion - Nasus is not a champ who can do things like dive the AD. Nasus has the best peel in the game and should be played that way. That's why he's good vs Irelia and Jax - they out trade him in lane but in fights he makes them useless.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 08 2013 12:09 GMT
#6708
On January 08 2013 21:07 Inflicted_ wrote:
Why do people get Statikk Shiv over PD or Ghostblade? They are around the same gold, and the extra stats from PD or active (& ArP) from Ghostblade look much better.


Because people miss ionic spark .
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 08 2013 12:14 GMT
#6709
On January 08 2013 21:07 Inflicted_ wrote:
Why do people get Statikk Shiv over PD or Ghostblade? They are around the same gold, and the extra stats from PD or active (& ArP) from Ghostblade look much better.

spark better mid game, if you go BT you get BT ASITEM LW DEF ITEM which is 4 items without crit making shiv superior to pd in that time
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 08 2013 12:18 GMT
#6710
wow I am just rolling kids with Ziggs, he is great because you can basically gank top and bot from the side brush on mid. That ult wins fights. I'm actually able to carry with him because I can win fights in other lanes and not let them get so behind.

He's like my new favorite! So far I only lost lane to AP yi, notably I have absolutely pooped on several Katarinas, tons of harass and if they jump on you EQ autos while saving satchel to interrupt ult outtrades her by alot.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 08 2013 12:22 GMT
#6711
whats the proper combo for Eve with DFG? DFG >R>E>QQQ?
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
January 08 2013 12:26 GMT
#6712
On January 08 2013 21:22 justiceknight wrote:
whats the proper combo for Eve with DFG? DFG >R>E>QQQ?

Pretty much, you want to lead with DFG if you are positive about going in on with everything, then R-E-Q. You want to be hitting Q as soon as you are in range so you might get 1 or two off before your E.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 08 2013 12:26 GMT
#6713
eve real hard champ
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 08 2013 12:26 GMT
#6714
Wow, mid king and a lilac have a team? I used to play with them T.T
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#6715
On January 08 2013 21:07 Inflicted_ wrote:
Why do people get Statikk Shiv over PD or Ghostblade? They are around the same gold, and the extra stats from PD or active (& ArP) from Ghostblade look much better.

The proc does a LOT of damage in teamfights and diversifies adc damage
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 08 2013 12:46 GMT
#6716
I feel like Shiv is real good on ADCs who can do long range poke with it like Ezreal and maybe Caitlyn.

Worse on some of the other carries. It's a neat item and I want to see it diversify ADC item choices.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 08 2013 12:46 GMT
#6717
On January 08 2013 21:27 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 21:07 Inflicted_ wrote:
Why do people get Statikk Shiv over PD or Ghostblade? They are around the same gold, and the extra stats from PD or active (& ArP) from Ghostblade look much better.

The proc does a LOT of damage in teamfights and diversifies adc damage

its a pretty silly item

trading the unit collision proc, for the spark one(which can crit is kinda silly). also good on adcs that dont have an easy way to farm.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 08 2013 13:03 GMT
#6718
On January 08 2013 21:09 schmutttt wrote:
Just on the Nasus might be able to 1v5 discussion - Nasus is not a champ who can do things like dive the AD. Nasus has the best peel in the game and should be played that way. That's why he's good vs Irelia and Jax - they out trade him in lane but in fights he makes them useless.


wat

nasus is amazing at diving ads

if you just run in past their whole team to go for the ad that won't work. If they're team dives balls deep you go for the AD, if he doesn't you slow someone else and then you focus someone else until the AD gets into W range and then you slow him and hope your whole team jumps him.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 08 2013 13:11 GMT
#6719
And then Nasus was exhausted and kited...

Also, Nasus using wither on Irelia is questionable. You're going to wither a champ with 40% cc reduction+effectiveness, on top of her merc treads/tenacity? And if she specs into defensive masteries, 15% slow reduction as well. On Jax I would agree. You can cc him, but cc'ing Irelia is pretty difficult to do.

"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 08 2013 13:15 GMT
#6720
Withering Irelia when you have the choice of Lee/Amumu/mao/whoever jungler or support or Irelia, you're gonna go with Irelia.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
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