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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
Mistake is Mistakelolz Misaya= Misayalolz? | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Elophant only lists Caomei CN. Close enough. http://elophant.com/spectate He's playing jungle lee and completely stomping everyone (14/3/8 atm) with moba nikes, wriggles>brutalizer>phage>BT randomass build lolz | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On November 29 2012 14:27 VayneAuthority wrote: nope its exactly what you said, you build like that due to prices. You only go BT/PD/IE when your absurdly fed, otherwise you cant wait an extra 2k For vayne, for example, no matter how much armor the enemies have, IE PD PD is more dps than IE PD LW. Literally, no matter how much armor they have, unless you're riding the AS cap, 2nd PD is more dps than an LW. This used to be true for corki too, but I don't think so anymore now that his passive no longer does extra damage on a crit. This is usually true on Kog as well for "Normal" ranges of MR (100-150), but weird amounts of MR can potentially change the math. BT PD IE is kinda... eh. Don't like it - if you got the BT, you really need the LW and not the IE, plus it's nearly half the cost. If you're looking at BT+IE+LW+PD as your final offensive lineup [and thus your name is not vayne or kog so LW makes sense], build the LW before the second "big sword" This is saying nothing about when to build GA/QSS, of course. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
You might think it's qq, but I think it's really funny. The disconnect between what some players think, and the ultimate decider that is elo is just massive. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
On November 29 2012 14:20 cLutZ wrote: LW is worse damage than a 2nd PD on a lot of champs. And is always less than an IE (if you went BT first or TF>BT). The only plausible reason for pros buying it so often (besides silliness) is that it gives you a faster powerspike (cheaper). IE>PD>LW is surprisingly non-ideal on a lot of AD Carries. By a lot you mean Vayne and Kog, and borderline Corki. For all the rest LW is in fact the ideal item to get, assuming the standard decision for the enemy to build armour. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On November 29 2012 17:39 OutlaW- wrote: just being high elo doesn't mean you understand this game perfectly. diamond players are wrong more often than you'd think. just look at doublelift On the other hand, what qualifiea you for "more" knowledge of this game to accuse Doublelift of often bein wrong about this game?  He's not "just a diamond player" btw but one of te best in the sceneAlso @fYrefly Double pd is onl stronger if you assume to hit the third silver bolt proc everytime. Which is fairly hard against a heav. Cc team where you are bus kiting and 2 people like a skarner + Malph are diving you. i guess the additional MS from the second pd helps with that but there is a reason we have yet to see a proplayer ( DBL, cpt jack, rekkles e.g.) go double pd although I m fairly aure that they have all read the infamous Reign of Gaming article TYped on phone Edit: also never get a 2nd pd if you have nunu on your team which is a fairly standard lane for kog/vayne | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On November 29 2012 18:14 AsnSensation wrote: On the other hand, what qualifiea you for "more" knowledge of this game to accuse Doublelift of often bein wrong about this game? He's not "just a diamond player" btw but one of te best in the sceneAlso @fYrefly Double pd is onl stronger if you assume to hit the third silver bolt proc everytime. Which is fairly hard against a heav. Cc team where you are bus kiting and 2 people like a skarner + Malph are diving you. i guess the additional MS from the second pd helps with that but there is a reason we have yet to see a proplayer ( DBL, cpt jack, rekkles e.g.) go double pd although I m fairly aure that they have all read the infamous Reign of Gaming article TYped on phone Edit: also never get a 2nd pd if you have nunu on your team which is a fairly standard lane for kog/vayne cuz, its well known doublelift is a fucking moron | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 29 2012 18:51 arb wrote: cuz, its well known doublelift is a fucking god among men FTFY. In all seriousness, Doublelift is 100% mechanics. 0% theory, 100% da playz. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On November 29 2012 17:35 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Gold player says diamond player is wrong. Diamond player says gold player is wrong. Clearly the gold player is right and the diamond player got his account boosted or ebayed. Oh solo queue, what would I do without you. You might think it's qq, but I think it's really funny. The disconnect between what some players think, and the ultimate decider that is elo is just massive. To be honest I don't like these kinds of arguments. For example a diamond player, that exclusively plays adc might have a very poor understanding of how laning top works. Just because you're able to play with certain roles at a high level does not grant you universal knowledge of the game. Also it's the nature of the internet that you can't take anything at face value. So while I understand where your frustration comes from, who is to say, that not both of you are playing at different accounts from your own. The diamond player might be gold and the gold diamond. No way to proove that to a complete strange in the 45 minutes or so of interaction that you will have. In my opinion you should try to win with arguments not by citing authority. If the other person just ignores your arguments, stop wasting time. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Personally I'd take a few grand monthly from streaming, being known for my superb raw mechanics and have my fans do the weekly highlight reel of "ma plays". Meanwhile theorycraft master double pd vayne is stuck in the 1500s while diving the enemy backline because his first hit was on the enemy soraka and he has to get that w proc to maximize his dmg output. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On November 29 2012 19:44 AsnSensation wrote: Meanwhile theorycraft master double pd vayne is stuck in the 1500s while diving the enemy backline because his first hit was on the enemy soraka and he has to get that w proc to maximize his dmg output. Hahaha this made me laugh heartily. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 29 2012 15:00 barbsq wrote: Standing dps is not exactly indicative of what is 'ideal' on an ADC. after you hit a certain base aspeed where you can kite effectively with your attack animation, further investment into aspeed is not very valuable, since ADC's spend far more time kiting than they do just standing and attacking. Therefore, after that first PD, it's much more worth your while to itemize for per-hit dmg than it is for dps. this also ignores the benefits that LW gives to physical damage abilities. Your attack animation gets faster the faster your attack speed is so this isn't true. Vayne may not be able to use +%AS that much since she tumbles all the time. | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
On November 29 2012 13:22 BlackPaladin wrote: Low range squishy AD carry. People are bad enough with champs like cait with 650 auto range. Or ashe with 600. Imagine someone bad playing an AD that is even squishier with less range. Now add onto that a really bad build (say, zeal -> LW cause they can't farm and "enemy team is stacking armor!"). Now on top of it all give said champ a movement ability (tumble) that bad players use to move INTO the enemy team instead of using it to kite, as well as an ability to save any enemy with low health. There's something I've noticed in my games - I've not seen a successful vayne in almost 6 months now. Doesn't metter if on my team or the other team - the vaynes consistently fail in both ranked and normal. I've actually dodged once or twice when my last pick adc got vayne. It's not "the player sucks" thing usually either - I've repeatedly won bot lanes vs higher rated people who mainadc and picked vayne. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
In solo queue you can't rely on your team to put that much weight on your development because they can't know how good you are. | ||
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