EPT[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 247
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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Deleted User 101379
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On November 29 2012 20:44 Numy wrote: You aren't meant to lose vs a vayne in lane with most of the ADC picks these days at least. I guess in Solo Q it's all about laning though. Yeah, the Vayne effect. Lose lane, Pentakill anyways. In soloQ people just don't protect vayne enough so her squishiness becomes a liability. If the opponents can actually dive and catch her, she is dead before she can do damage. If i have a vayne on my team, in every teamfight i'll just go for anything close to her, no matter what. Seems to work ok. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On November 29 2012 18:53 wei2coolman wrote: FTFY. In all seriousness, Doublelift is 100% mechanics. 0% theory, 100% da playz. Will you ever stop sucking his dick in every 2nd post you make? | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On November 29 2012 18:53 wei2coolman wrote: FTFY. In all seriousness, Doublelift is 100% mechanics. 0% theory, 100% da playz. His brain contains, 1% how to breathe, 99% nothing | ||
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Tilorn91
Serbia218 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On November 29 2012 21:32 Tilorn91 wrote: I don't know from where is all this Doublelift hate coming from, all I saw from him were a few Youtube clips of him owning it up with a few AD champs so he can't be all that bad. Can someone link some videos or something to explain to me why everyone thinks that way of him? I always thought he's pretty good and I aspire to be like him. He is good, it became like a meme from really early in his career that he was tactically retarded after a few bad facechecks. He's gotten hugely better since then and I bet you 100$ that if you didn't hear about it all the time nobody would ever come up with it again just by watching him. Sure he's no genius but he's not any worse than any other player. Its just his thing that he's gonna have to carry around forever every time he screws up. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On November 29 2012 21:32 Tilorn91 wrote: I don't know from where is all this Doublelift hate coming from, all I saw from him were a few Youtube clips of him owning it up with a few AD champs so he can't be all that bad. Can someone link some videos or something to explain to me why everyone thinks that way of him? I always thought he's pretty good and I aspire to be like him. Don't get us wrong, none of us are saying that he's bad. He is in fact one of the best western AD carries (top 2 at least) and is generally considered the back of CLG.NA, playing consistently well and carrying his team's asses. But he has made ridiculous statements in the past that were later proven hilariously untrue. He's also known for facechecking bushes and losing the game. That's why we laugh at him for being pretty dumb. But all of us think (at least I do) that he's a really good player, mostly because, as someone said, his mechanics and game sense are really good. On November 29 2012 21:33 sob3k wrote: Man, Assassin Lee is like 100x more fun than tanky, maybe I'm just way better at playing assassin but I clean up. You can build tanky later after you get fed with your 2 dblades bruta BT. If it works for you, don't stop playing it. I guess this is obvious advice but really, if something is working out for you, don't let me or anyone else tell you that you're doing it wrong and that you should stop doing it. I just can't do it anymore unless I'm playing normals and even in those I don't usually pick lee. Fight on.! | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On November 29 2012 20:55 Morfildur wrote: Yeah, the Vayne effect. Lose lane, Pentakill anyways. In soloQ people just don't protect vayne enough so her squishiness becomes a liability. If the opponents can actually dive and catch her, she is dead before she can do damage. If i have a vayne on my team, in every teamfight i'll just go for anything close to her, no matter what. Seems to work ok. Isn't that the best way to play late-game team fights, regardless of the AD carry?  | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 29 2012 22:08 Sponkz wrote: Isn't that the best way to play late-game team fights, regardless of the AD carry? If your own AD carry does more damage than the enemy AD and you are certain that you can protect your AD so much so that he can autoattack close to his attack speed then there is no reason to dive at all. But Vayne out-DPSes everyone so protecting your own AD carry will usually just end with your frontline dying faster than the enemies'. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On November 29 2012 12:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: yes, get fed and have a teammate set up a penta for you, definitely a good representation of a champion's strengths did u know that if u go 20-0 on veigar in 20 minutes, you can dark matter after diana moonfalls 5 people for a penta kill>? veigar op. What I meant is that while Orianna doesn't have the ratios + base damage to annihilate a group of people in one combo, Xerath's are good enough. Ori's and Lux's base damage are pretty low compared to his'. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On November 29 2012 22:14 Scip wrote: If your own AD carry does more damage than the enemy AD and you are certain that you can protect your AD so much so that he can autoattack close to his attack speed then there is no reason to dive at all. But Vayne out-DPSes everyone so protecting your own AD carry will usually just end with your frontline dying faster than the enemies'. Vaynes late game is just retarded, as is the concept of max health % based true damage. Build armor? Nope, doesn't help. Get HP? Nope, doesn't help. You gonna die! (Please imagine I speak the last sentence like some sort of crazy, old fortuneteller.) | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On November 29 2012 22:36 BlueSpace wrote: Vaynes late game is just retarded, as is the concept of max health % based true damage. Build armor? Nope, doesn't help. Get HP? Nope, doesn't help. You gonna die! (Please imagine I speak the last sentence like some sort of crazy, old fortuneteller.) I'm sorry I can't link you anything, but I'm pretty sure I read some math a while ago that proved how the Silver Bolts aren't THAT big a deal, in comparison to Q and R. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On November 29 2012 22:39 Shiv. wrote: I'm sorry I can't link you anything, but I'm pretty sure I read some math a while ago that proved how the Silver Bolts aren't THAT big a deal, in comparison to Q and R. Well the R is a big deal. Using Q will actually lower her damage output at some point as far as I remember. That actually ties into the PD discussion, because in order to take full advantage of the double PD you can't tumble as you will "loose" autoattacks due to the tumble animation. I also don't remember the exact math but I was under the impression, that it becomes significant once you reach your full build and your targets can be high armor/high life. For most of the game though especially early silver bolts are completely irrelevant. I might be wrong though it isn't really a big deal and it is mainly the R steroid which makes her so strong. I'll see if I can find the math again. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On November 29 2012 22:39 Shiv. wrote: I'm sorry I can't link you anything, but I'm pretty sure I read some math a while ago that proved how the Silver Bolts aren't THAT big a deal, in comparison to Q and R. I dunno man 80 + 8% of their max health as true damage is kinda big. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On November 29 2012 23:08 sob3k wrote: Why is the the TF in the azubo/najin game the old model? because they're playing on old patch | ||
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