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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:33 obesechicken13 wrote: Can't have diversity. I think Stonewall talked about how everyone will start machete. I think he's right. I personally want to start bottle. Meh, machete builds into like 5 different items so it'll be ok in the end. It'll be at least be more variety than the "boots into mercs (or mobis)" of s2 | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:35 Requizen wrote: Machete is more or less mandatory, there are some that can skip it. Nunu can, but that's because Nunu. He still might get it for faster clearing, though. I think it'll be required on every jungler until people can figure out safer builds/routes that don't need it, but I think unless you're a god mode jungler at level 1 you will. On the bright side there is at least some diversity in the items that build out of machete. I mean it's petty obvious on who you are going to build which upgrade on, but at least you're not gimped into buying an item that won't help you at all later. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Double wota still works, had it in a PBE aram today. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh wow, penetration runes nerfed across the board. I can't remember if I'd seen that before. Most penetration got nerf because of how much better it is. Double Aura stacking still works as confirmed. Got two "Valor Aura"! | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:45 xes wrote: Most penetration got nerf because of how much better it is. Double Aura stacking still works as confirmed. Got two "Valor Aura"! We were like the MythBusters. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:35 Requizen wrote: Machete is more or less mandatory, there are some that can skip it. Nunu can, but that's because Nunu. He still might get it for faster clearing, though. I think it'll be required on every jungler until people can figure out safer builds/routes that don't need it, but I think unless you're a god mode jungler at level 1 you will. IMO if you don't lose a significant amount of speed from starting Cloth over Machete, Cloth will always be better, because if 2 junglers meet in the jungle, and one has Cloth, and the other has Machete, the guy with Cloth will out-duel the guy with Machete. EDIT: nm just checked and apparently Machete affects all damage, not just autoattacks. Boring. EDIT 2: this does mean that if your team is going to do Baron, and you're coming from base, you should buy a Machete and sell it later. 10% increased damage to Baron + 10 true damage per attack is worth the 90 gold net loss. | ||
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NotTheMonker
United States131 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:52 NotTheMonker wrote: In Riot's patch notes, when they change the numeric value of something, they always formulate it "X is increased to {new value} from {old value}". This always confuses the hell out of me because I always assume the old value is going to come first. Does this bother anyone else? Have you gotten used to it? it makes sense to me, as long as they're consistent about it. They could just say "X is now {new value}", but the old values are given for convenience's sake, kind of like a parenthetical remark afterwards. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
Jungle malz nerf. Obviously they understand how OP T_D's ideas can be, so they nerf it preemptively. Well played, Riot. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/preseason/intro The link from the patch preview is broken. Am I the only one who thinks the spirit stone items kinda suck? | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
But where was the nocturne ult? | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh wow, penetration runes nerfed across the board. I can't remember if I'd seen that before. Mpen was buffed a few patches back, now they renerfed it because Mpen op. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:59 BlackPaladin wrote: Jungle monsters now deal 50% bonus damage to non-champions (ex: Malzahar's Voidlings, Shaco's Jack in the Box) Jungle malz nerf. Obviously they understand how OP T_D's ideas can be, so they nerf it preemptively. Well played, Riot. That's been like that since the start of the PBE update. The voidlings reportedly could tank the entire jungle at normal damage. You just have to take turns tanking. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 04 2012 15:12 MooMooMugi wrote: Mpen was buffed a few patches back, now they renerfed it because Mpen op. No, it was nerfed with all other penetration sources to balance out the new penetration stacking rules. It makes sense. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On December 04 2012 15:33 TheYango wrote: No, it was nerfed with all other penetration sources to balance out the new penetration stacking rules. It makes sense. Oh jk, it was flat ap that got buffed | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:59 BlackPaladin wrote: Jungle monsters now deal 50% bonus damage to non-champions (ex: Malzahar's Voidlings, Shaco's Jack in the Box) Jungle malz nerf. Obviously they understand how OP T_D's ideas can be, so they nerf it preemptively. Well played, Riot. It still works, and is surprisingly one of the easier junglers if you're familiar with his mechanics. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
RIP Soul Shroud. You will be missed as the most underbought aura item in the game. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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