• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:50
CEST 13:50
KST 20:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out0RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO How FlaSh Nearly Forfeited MSL Finals being late BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3951 users

[Patch 1.0.0.151: End of S2] General Discussion - Page 278

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 276 277 278 279 280 Next
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:14 GMT
#5541
On December 04 2012 13:10 ManyCookies wrote:
Have we discussed how hilarious Ravenous Hydra is on Jax?

Stupid. The word you're looking for is stupid.
It's your boy Guzma!
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:20:06
December 04 2012 04:18 GMT
#5542
"Stupid" as in I think it's really good or really bad on him?

Honestly though, I'm really excited for what the next few weeks will bring. LoL itemization has always been pretty homogenous, hopefully this shakes things up. Also jungle Malz might be a thing now.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 04 2012 04:21 GMT
#5543
On December 04 2012 12:56 seRapH wrote:
why not play ranked lol. Stop caring about elo imo and just experiment.

I haven't attempted to get into ranked yet (I just don't feel good enough), but I just don't feel like dealing with the potential ragers, people who are going to bitch about any new item you build that they think is trash or something. I know they can just be ignored but I feel normals won't be as bad. Or maybe I'm wrong haha, I guess we will see. If normals are bad maybe I'll just jump into ranked.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:21 GMT
#5544
Really good. Probably not good enough to get before TF, but it's just pretty brutal on him.

Jungle Malz is really a thing, apparently. I wonder if they changed the thing with Syndra's orbs that made her god-tier jungler, I'd laugh my ass off if she was legit.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#5545
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
drivec
Profile Joined May 2009
United States354 Posts
December 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#5546
idk if its just me but did support really change that much it looks like to me most the new support items i wont be able to get because the game will be over by then. its like ill have to pick gp5 runes and play for the long game or go for just dominating my lane and getting gold from assist.

anyone else got an opinion on this iam not really good at seeing the whole picture.
starcraft is chess at warp speed
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:27:56
December 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#5547
On December 04 2012 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.

I thought the confusion was Dec 11 was going to be the next patch after the season 3 patch (like champ balance stuff). If this isn't the season 3 stuff i have no idea what this patch would entail.
On December 04 2012 13:24 drivec wrote:
idk if its just me but did support really change that much it looks like to me most the new support items i wont be able to get because the game will be over by then. its like ill have to pick gp5 runes and play for the long game or go for just dominating my lane and getting gold from assist.

anyone else got an opinion on this iam not really good at seeing the whole picture.

There are still more options. Do I buy aura items like Aegis? Or an item with a kick ass active like Crucible? I see a lot of supports building Kage's and then going from there, philo is kind of in a bad place since they nerfed it and shurelia's. The end game builds should be more interesting, but i'm hoping for me variety in support builds even if you can't build it all.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:38:41
December 04 2012 04:28 GMT
#5548
On December 04 2012 13:24 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.

I thought the confusion was Dec 11 was going to be the next patch after the season 3 patch (like champ balance stuff). If this isn't the season 3 stuff i have no idea what this patch would entail.

Yea this is the big patch, masteries items etc. Everything but Nami

On December 04 2012 13:24 drivec wrote:
idk if its just me but did support really change that much it looks like to me most the new support items i wont be able to get because the game will be over by then. its like ill have to pick gp5 runes and play for the long game or go for just dominating my lane and getting gold from assist.

anyone else got an opinion on this iam not really good at seeing the whole picture.

I think it will be a bit better, items will be more accessible. I think loading up on utility masteries will be the norm for a while at least. Get that gold with the auto's. Kage will actually build into something you can use, so that will replace hog. You will eventually save gold on wards with sightstone.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:32 GMT
#5549
On December 04 2012 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.

Considering the site that launched alongside it is all about the item and jungle changes and what not, I think we can assume that it's all in this patch
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 04 2012 04:34 GMT
#5550
On December 04 2012 13:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 12:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
Yep, the people who are crazy enough to play ranked are just that. Even normal games are going to be like the wild west. Should be interesting. Building Muramana Ryze the first chance I get.

I'm gonna build Muramana first on everyone except the manaless.


Muramana is the dumbest item on Ryze. It's like a Deathcap that increases damage by 50%, so long as you have blue buff you're a terror.

Too bad you can't really finish it before 25 minutes.

On December 04 2012 13:32 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.

Considering the site that launched alongside it is all about the item and jungle changes and what not, I think we can assume that it's all in this patch


Second Riot post confirms it's all coming in tomorrow.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:38 GMT
#5551
Wait, are you guys actually talking about Muramana, or do you mean Seraph's Embrace? Is it really worth getting the extra auto damage to sacrifice the shield?
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 04 2012 04:40 GMT
#5552
So apparently the MLG Prizefight matches between Quantic/Curse and Dig/CLG.NA are going to be taking place on the live client, so that means our first chance to see pros messing around with the Season 3 changes. I expect hilarity. That or everyone just builds their normal builds haha.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
December 04 2012 04:40 GMT
#5553
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:42 GMT
#5554
On December 04 2012 13:40 Vanka wrote:
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?

Yeah, if the passives share the same name, they won't stack.
It's your boy Guzma!
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
December 04 2012 04:42 GMT
#5555
There's no new dfg on the list, did they cancel the remake? wouldnt be too bad, since it was garbage anw
Chun-li since ST
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:44:03
December 04 2012 04:43 GMT
#5556
On December 04 2012 13:40 Vanka wrote:
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?

It never double stacked, all it ever was is that the two people who hold Aegis get the passive aura from their teammate when usually they would only get the stats from the item itself.

Edit: At least I assume this is what you mean, never saw anyone build two Aegis
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:45:56
December 04 2012 04:45 GMT
#5557
On December 04 2012 13:42 Artok wrote:
There's no new dfg on the list, did they cancel the remake? wouldnt be too bad, since it was garbage anw

Click the +More under adjusted items. http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/preseason/items It's there.I wouldn't consider it garbage either =/
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
December 04 2012 04:46 GMT
#5558
On December 04 2012 13:45 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:42 Artok wrote:
There's no new dfg on the list, did they cancel the remake? wouldnt be too bad, since it was garbage anw

Click the +More under adjusted items. http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/preseason/items It's there.I wouldn't consider it garbage either =/

Oh damn, thank you sir.
Chun-li since ST
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 04 2012 04:46 GMT
#5559
On December 04 2012 13:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:40 Vanka wrote:
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?

all it ever was is that the two people who hold Aegis get the passive aura from their teammate when usually they would only get the stats from the item itself.

That's exactly what double stacked means.
twitch.tv/cratonz
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:59:05
December 04 2012 04:58 GMT
#5560
On December 04 2012 13:46 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 04 2012 13:40 Vanka wrote:
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?

all it ever was is that the two people who hold Aegis get the passive aura from their teammate when usually they would only get the stats from the item itself.

That's exactly what double stacked means.

Exactly, than it should still work the same, Aegis has always been a unique passive, only difference if they are giving the unique passives names to avoid any possible confusion.

On December 04 2012 13:38 Requizen wrote:
Wait, are you guys actually talking about Muramana, or do you mean Seraph's Embrace? Is it really worth getting the extra auto damage to sacrifice the shield?

The passive isn't what makes it interesting, it's the toggle
Your single target spells and attacks consume 3% of your current mana to deal 6% of your current mana as magic damage.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Prev 1 276 277 278 279 280 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #141
Nicoract vs IbaLIVE!
Shameless vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings107
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko432
SHIN 314
PiGStarcraft268
Classic 62
Maru 54
ByuN (SOOP) 46
herO (SOOP) 38
Rogue 28
Trap 18
Cure 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3582
Bisu 1793
firebathero 880
Jaedong 787
Mini 432
Hyuk 425
EffOrt 315
Soulkey 301
Stork 209
Larva 208
[ Show more ]
Light 197
Barracks 163
soO 153
Pusan 142
Killer 133
Snow 130
Free 61
Rush 57
hero 54
Sharp 53
sorry 21
Sexy 18
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
Dendi2018
XBOCT1547
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2067
x6flipin934
byalli643
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King92
Other Games
singsing2113
B2W.Neo536
crisheroes267
Sick180
Liquid`LucifroN97
Livibee75
QueenE44
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 15
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 67
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2302
Other Games
• WagamamaTV205
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
10m
PiGStarcraft268
PiGosaur Cup
12h 10m
Replay Cast
21h 10m
Kung Fu Cup
23h 10m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The Patches Monday
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-10
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.