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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:14 GMT
#5541
On December 04 2012 13:10 ManyCookies wrote:
Have we discussed how hilarious Ravenous Hydra is on Jax?

Stupid. The word you're looking for is stupid.
It's your boy Guzma!
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:20:06
December 04 2012 04:18 GMT
#5542
"Stupid" as in I think it's really good or really bad on him?

Honestly though, I'm really excited for what the next few weeks will bring. LoL itemization has always been pretty homogenous, hopefully this shakes things up. Also jungle Malz might be a thing now.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 04 2012 04:21 GMT
#5543
On December 04 2012 12:56 seRapH wrote:
why not play ranked lol. Stop caring about elo imo and just experiment.

I haven't attempted to get into ranked yet (I just don't feel good enough), but I just don't feel like dealing with the potential ragers, people who are going to bitch about any new item you build that they think is trash or something. I know they can just be ignored but I feel normals won't be as bad. Or maybe I'm wrong haha, I guess we will see. If normals are bad maybe I'll just jump into ranked.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:21 GMT
#5544
Really good. Probably not good enough to get before TF, but it's just pretty brutal on him.

Jungle Malz is really a thing, apparently. I wonder if they changed the thing with Syndra's orbs that made her god-tier jungler, I'd laugh my ass off if she was legit.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#5545
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.
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drivec
Profile Joined May 2009
United States354 Posts
December 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#5546
idk if its just me but did support really change that much it looks like to me most the new support items i wont be able to get because the game will be over by then. its like ill have to pick gp5 runes and play for the long game or go for just dominating my lane and getting gold from assist.

anyone else got an opinion on this iam not really good at seeing the whole picture.
starcraft is chess at warp speed
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:27:56
December 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#5547
On December 04 2012 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.

I thought the confusion was Dec 11 was going to be the next patch after the season 3 patch (like champ balance stuff). If this isn't the season 3 stuff i have no idea what this patch would entail.
On December 04 2012 13:24 drivec wrote:
idk if its just me but did support really change that much it looks like to me most the new support items i wont be able to get because the game will be over by then. its like ill have to pick gp5 runes and play for the long game or go for just dominating my lane and getting gold from assist.

anyone else got an opinion on this iam not really good at seeing the whole picture.

There are still more options. Do I buy aura items like Aegis? Or an item with a kick ass active like Crucible? I see a lot of supports building Kage's and then going from there, philo is kind of in a bad place since they nerfed it and shurelia's. The end game builds should be more interesting, but i'm hoping for me variety in support builds even if you can't build it all.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:38:41
December 04 2012 04:28 GMT
#5548
On December 04 2012 13:24 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.

I thought the confusion was Dec 11 was going to be the next patch after the season 3 patch (like champ balance stuff). If this isn't the season 3 stuff i have no idea what this patch would entail.

Yea this is the big patch, masteries items etc. Everything but Nami

On December 04 2012 13:24 drivec wrote:
idk if its just me but did support really change that much it looks like to me most the new support items i wont be able to get because the game will be over by then. its like ill have to pick gp5 runes and play for the long game or go for just dominating my lane and getting gold from assist.

anyone else got an opinion on this iam not really good at seeing the whole picture.

I think it will be a bit better, items will be more accessible. I think loading up on utility masteries will be the norm for a while at least. Get that gold with the auto's. Kage will actually build into something you can use, so that will replace hog. You will eventually save gold on wards with sightstone.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:32 GMT
#5549
On December 04 2012 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.

Considering the site that launched alongside it is all about the item and jungle changes and what not, I think we can assume that it's all in this patch
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 04 2012 04:34 GMT
#5550
On December 04 2012 13:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 12:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
Yep, the people who are crazy enough to play ranked are just that. Even normal games are going to be like the wild west. Should be interesting. Building Muramana Ryze the first chance I get.

I'm gonna build Muramana first on everyone except the manaless.


Muramana is the dumbest item on Ryze. It's like a Deathcap that increases damage by 50%, so long as you have blue buff you're a terror.

Too bad you can't really finish it before 25 minutes.

On December 04 2012 13:32 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I thought that this pre-patch isn't the new items S3 patch....
They said something about Dec. 11 being the earliest, and that there was a patch before it.

Considering the site that launched alongside it is all about the item and jungle changes and what not, I think we can assume that it's all in this patch


Second Riot post confirms it's all coming in tomorrow.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:38 GMT
#5551
Wait, are you guys actually talking about Muramana, or do you mean Seraph's Embrace? Is it really worth getting the extra auto damage to sacrifice the shield?
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 04 2012 04:40 GMT
#5552
So apparently the MLG Prizefight matches between Quantic/Curse and Dig/CLG.NA are going to be taking place on the live client, so that means our first chance to see pros messing around with the Season 3 changes. I expect hilarity. That or everyone just builds their normal builds haha.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
December 04 2012 04:40 GMT
#5553
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2012 04:42 GMT
#5554
On December 04 2012 13:40 Vanka wrote:
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?

Yeah, if the passives share the same name, they won't stack.
It's your boy Guzma!
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
December 04 2012 04:42 GMT
#5555
There's no new dfg on the list, did they cancel the remake? wouldnt be too bad, since it was garbage anw
Chun-li since ST
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:44:03
December 04 2012 04:43 GMT
#5556
On December 04 2012 13:40 Vanka wrote:
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?

It never double stacked, all it ever was is that the two people who hold Aegis get the passive aura from their teammate when usually they would only get the stats from the item itself.

Edit: At least I assume this is what you mean, never saw anyone build two Aegis
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:45:56
December 04 2012 04:45 GMT
#5557
On December 04 2012 13:42 Artok wrote:
There's no new dfg on the list, did they cancel the remake? wouldnt be too bad, since it was garbage anw

Click the +More under adjusted items. http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/preseason/items It's there.I wouldn't consider it garbage either =/
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
December 04 2012 04:46 GMT
#5558
On December 04 2012 13:45 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:42 Artok wrote:
There's no new dfg on the list, did they cancel the remake? wouldnt be too bad, since it was garbage anw

Click the +More under adjusted items. http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/preseason/items It's there.I wouldn't consider it garbage either =/

Oh damn, thank you sir.
Chun-li since ST
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
December 04 2012 04:46 GMT
#5559
On December 04 2012 13:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:40 Vanka wrote:
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?

all it ever was is that the two people who hold Aegis get the passive aura from their teammate when usually they would only get the stats from the item itself.

That's exactly what double stacked means.
twitch.tv/cratonz
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 04:59:05
December 04 2012 04:58 GMT
#5560
On December 04 2012 13:46 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 13:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 04 2012 13:40 Vanka wrote:
does the new unique passive change mean that aegis and wota etc. don't stack anymore?

all it ever was is that the two people who hold Aegis get the passive aura from their teammate when usually they would only get the stats from the item itself.

That's exactly what double stacked means.

Exactly, than it should still work the same, Aegis has always been a unique passive, only difference if they are giving the unique passives names to avoid any possible confusion.

On December 04 2012 13:38 Requizen wrote:
Wait, are you guys actually talking about Muramana, or do you mean Seraph's Embrace? Is it really worth getting the extra auto damage to sacrifice the shield?

The passive isn't what makes it interesting, it's the toggle
Your single target spells and attacks consume 3% of your current mana to deal 6% of your current mana as magic damage.
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