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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 01:12:44
December 04 2012 01:10 GMT
#5501
It's kind of hard to counter someone who does all her shit at 1000 range. Kat and Diana probably fair well thanks to good gapclose and Lux having no way to interrupt kat ult or really burst Diana through her double shield.

Ahri and Kassadin might be good, too. Basically anyone who can see her toss her q/e combo, use a dash/blink and punish her for it. It's kind of hard to kill her through her W but it's doable.
Remember Violet.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 01:14:16
December 04 2012 01:11 GMT
#5502
Teemo beats her because his blind makes her auto not proc the passive after she hits him with something, and his high base speed makes landing the skillshots that much harder.

I could try Diana, she's alright. I don't think any melee champion beats Lux in lane though, her early harassment is too strong. Diana/Kat/Fizz try to beat her in the midgame.

Talon maybe. I tried him a bit when he was free but I just died a lot. Isn't he also "bad" though?

I have Ahri. I didn't like her so much when I tried her, but she's supposed to be good so maybe I was just not doing it right.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 01:19:10
December 04 2012 01:18 GMT
#5503
The general plan is to pick a champ who can, without burning flash, punish her for using skillshots with mobility skills and decent burst. Talon can do this with his silence/dash, but he relies very heavily on snowballing because he falls off harder than just about anyone once teamfights roll around. All the champs listed have the tools to do it, but executing it is harder and requires good gauging of your damage and good timing so you don't sit there like a doofus under her snare.

Gragas is a decent bet to add to the list. It's a fucking chore to get through the early game with her ranged harass, but you've got good natural sustain and tankiness, have a dash to abuse her skillshot dependency, and can fuck up her need to stay at a safe distance with your ult's displacement and range itself.
Remember Violet.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 04 2012 01:19 GMT
#5504
On December 04 2012 09:53 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 09:45 Zhiroo wrote:
Is there a support streamer that's worth watching? Like he commentates and stuff?


Spelsy is around on tl and streams pretty good sometimes. Playing support on stream tends to not be really what the pros do (they don't think its entertaining) so its pretty hard to see good support streams but they're out there. if you want to see pro supporting then just watch adcs or so play on ladder and watch what the support does on the team.

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On December 04 2012 09:51 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On December 04 2012 09:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 04 2012 09:32 Bwaaaa wrote:
Does anyone know when the next patch/nami will be?

Nope. I'm excited for the season 3 but I just want Nami lol.


Srsly. Dat champ look so fun. Also, MOAR SUPPORTZ.


I would really lower your expectation for nami. Shes really a worse janna at about everything except for the melle adcs that never get any use.

Played her on the PBE and she's really fun, not sure how viable that makes her. Still don't get the melee champion argument, anything that should benefit a melee ADC should benefit a ranged ADC. I also don't see the Janna thing, I feel like the shield is Janna's defining thing, which Nami doesn't have. Plus Nami's ult is cool if you can get it to land. I honestly just think her skill cap is kinda high because the stun is pretty hard to hit.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 04 2012 01:25 GMT
#5505
I should learn Lee Sin mid to counter Lux mid, and just be a Froggen fanboy.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 04 2012 01:27 GMT
#5506
On December 04 2012 10:01 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 09:45 Zhiroo wrote:
Is there a support streamer that's worth watching? Like he commentates and stuff?

Nhat will talk about what he's doing every once in a while. Most of the time he just trolls.

sometimes you get a real treat and tune into him playing Blitzcrank. people dont call him Godhand for no reason :o
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 04 2012 01:28 GMT
#5507
When I play Lux I have mana issues when people shove the lane. Several champs can push with little mana expenditure.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 01:31:34
December 04 2012 01:30 GMT
#5508
One of Lux's major issues. People don't build Grail first on her for no reason haha (well Toyz builds it on everyone so maybe that's not a great example.)
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 04 2012 01:32 GMT
#5509
I always run teleport on Lux, and I always use the first teleport just to get a free mana bar at level 4-5. Between that and rushing grail I never seem to have a mana issue.

I don't like Ignite on her because I feel like I'm always fighting outside Ignite range. I tried it for a while and just didn't think it was helping.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 04 2012 01:35 GMT
#5510
Salce playing Mordekaizer mid
oh man
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 04 2012 01:37 GMT
#5511
On December 04 2012 10:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
One of Lux's major issues. People don't build Grail first on her for no reason haha (well Toyz builds it on everyone so maybe that's not a great example.)


Grail is awesome, it's a shame it's getting nerfed.
Remember Violet.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 01:40:29
December 04 2012 01:38 GMT
#5512
are people complaining about lux now WTF? i find her early levels very weak, the only good thing she has is her Q which guarantees kill when jungler ganks assuming u manage to hit it
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 04 2012 01:41 GMT
#5513
It's not a complaint, her laning has always been very solid and safe and a dude wanted to know who lanes well against her, and the answer is not much.
Remember Violet.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 01:47:47
December 04 2012 01:45 GMT
#5514
Anyone who can hop over Lux's q generally does fine. Talon in particular just craps on her. I'd say Kat, Kassadin, and Fizz do too.. Never played the non-Lux side of these matchup, but these are the ones that make me rage pretty hard.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 04 2012 01:45 GMT
#5515
I find Lux's early levels to be just about the strongest in the game, I wonder why you'd think she's weak.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 01:50:51
December 04 2012 01:47 GMT
#5516
Is NA patched?

EDIT: Preseason update is live they said and there's no patch wtf...
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 04 2012 01:52 GMT
#5517
Most misleading news title ever.

The "update" that went live is just an information page, not the patch (though it seems to indicate we might see the actual patch soon).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 04 2012 01:55 GMT
#5518
On December 04 2012 10:45 zer0das wrote:
Anyone who can hop over Lux's q generally does fine. Talon in particular just craps on her. I'd say Kat, Kassadin, and Fizz do too.. Never played the non-Lux side of these matchup, but these are the ones that make me rage pretty hard.


I've never had any trouble with Kat or Kassadin as Lux. I'd say Lux vs Kat is probably my best matchup since it's like every other ranked game I play.

Just beat the shit out of them before they hit 6. Auto them at every possible moment.

After 6 farm from 1000 range and don't let them dive you. If they do dive you don't try to fight, just do a quick W-Q and walk away.

Kassadin is especially easy because it's not hard to predict his blinks and preshield.

Fizz is harder because he can dive you from like 3-4, but if you just play really really safe you should outdo him in the late game.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 01:58:51
December 04 2012 01:56 GMT
#5519
I hope there's no Nami in this patch. I saved 6300 IP for her but I couldn't resist to buy Diana and now I'm at 1500. So I want like 3/4 days to get IP so I can instantly get her. Riot pls.

On December 04 2012 10:55 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 10:45 zer0das wrote:
Anyone who can hop over Lux's q generally does fine. Talon in particular just craps on her. I'd say Kat, Kassadin, and Fizz do too.. Never played the non-Lux side of these matchup, but these are the ones that make me rage pretty hard.


I've never had any trouble with Kat or Kassadin as Lux. I'd say Lux vs Kat is probably my best matchup since it's like every other ranked game I play.

Just beat the shit out of them before they hit 6. Auto them at every possible moment.

After 6 farm from 1000 range and don't let them dive you. If they do dive you don't try to fight, just do a quick W-Q and walk away.

Kassadin is especially easy because it's not hard to predict his blinks and preshield.

Fizz is harder because he can dive you from like 3-4, but if you just play really really safe you should outdo him in the late game.


I've had no problems against Lux with Katarina but I didn't do well in lane with Diana. Could be because I was lagging a bit but seems that with her range it's a bit harder to land Q so you can jump at her.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 04 2012 02:08 GMT
#5520
The new DFG makes the Swain in me swoon.

Zephyr leaves me perplexed though. It gives AD, AS, %MS and CDR, along with tenacity. Seems like an excellent buy on Jax—all of his offensive stats, tenacity, and a bit of defensive through the CDR. But then you don't need mercs since you have Tenacity, and you probably won't get wit's since you already have a lot of AS and you'd better get stuff that synergizes with it.
So where do you get your MR? I always feel uncomfortable buying tabis, even against heavy auto-comps, because of the 25 MR "hole".

Whatever, SV gonna be good on Irelia and Jax anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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