EPTI can see him being much better in S3.
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I can see him being much better in S3. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On November 29 2012 10:59 Alaric wrote: Look up his ult damage. You'll know where Lux and Ori can't beat him. Put him with Diana and it's penta material if you're fed enough. yes, get fed and have a teammate set up a penta for you, definitely a good representation of a champion's strengths did u know that if u go 20-0 on veigar in 20 minutes, you can dark matter after diana moonfalls 5 people for a penta kill>? veigar op. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 29 2012 12:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: yes, get fed and have a teammate set up a penta for you, definitely a good representation of a champion's strengths did u know that if u go 20-0 on veigar in 20 minutes, you can dark matter after diana moonfalls 5 people for a penta kill>? veigar op. did u know that if u go 40-0 on karma in 5 minutes, you can mantra E after diana moonfalls 5 people for a penta kill>? karma op. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
time to ban vayne for a week so my team doesn't pick her | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On November 29 2012 12:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: vayne free week? time to ban vayne for a week so my team doesn't pick her Is she really that hard to play? o.o | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
Low range squishy AD carry. People are bad enough with champs like cait with 650 auto range. Or ashe with 600. Imagine someone bad playing an AD that is even squishier with less range. Now add onto that a really bad build (say, zeal -> LW cause they can't farm and "enemy team is stacking armor!"). Now on top of it all give said champ a movement ability (tumble) that bad players use to move INTO the enemy team instead of using it to kite, as well as an ability to save any enemy with low health. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On November 29 2012 13:31 obesechicken13 wrote: What are free weeks? I play ranked. I wonder if there is a correlation between free week champions and greater pick percentage in ranked. I would suspect that's the case if for no other reason than people are thinking about those champions more. It would be interesting to see some stats on the matter. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 29 2012 13:22 BlackPaladin wrote: Low range squishy AD carry. People are bad enough with champs like cait with 650 auto range. Or ashe with 600. Imagine someone bad playing an AD that is even squishier with less range. Now add onto that a really bad build (say, zeal -> LW cause they can't farm and "enemy team is stacking armor!"). Now on top of it all give said champ a movement ability (tumble) that bad players use to move INTO the enemy team instead of using it to kite, as well as an ability to save any enemy with low health. You forgot the part where Vayne's laning, while not as bad as it's sometimes made out to be, is very very below average. I'm having a hard time thinking of an AD carry that is worse than her pre-6. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On November 29 2012 13:37 overt wrote: You forgot the part where Vayne's laning, while not as bad as it's sometimes made out to be, is very very below average. I'm having a hard time thinking of an AD carry that is worse than her pre-6. Is she much worse than Varus? I would think with at least one escape mechanism (two with Banish), she's at least a little safer, right? Honestly, I wouldn't know though because I have little experience around Varus and no high-level experience. | ||
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pschiu
Singapore410 Posts
On November 29 2012 13:22 BlackPaladin wrote: Low range squishy AD carry. People are bad enough with champs like cait with 650 auto range. Or ashe with 600. Imagine someone bad playing an AD that is even squishier with less range. Now add onto that a really bad build (say, zeal -> LW cause they can't farm and "enemy team is stacking armor!"). Now on top of it all give said champ a movement ability (tumble) that bad players use to move INTO the enemy team instead of using it to kite, as well as an ability to save any enemy with low health. At least you see people getting LW cause "enemy team is stacking armor!" I have to keep nagging my AD carry allies to get LW when necessary instead of stuff like MBR. T.T | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On November 29 2012 13:43 Takkara wrote: Is she much worse than Varus? I would think with at least one escape mechanism (two with Banish), she's at least a little safer, right? Honestly, I wouldn't know though because I have little experience around Varus and no high-level experience. varus does quite well in the laning phase. It's just the rest of the game he starts to have some trouble. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 29 2012 12:50 zer0das wrote: Oh snap, Alex Ich picked Ryze for his favorite champion. More reason to like him. :> Ryze is a real faceroll champ at lower elo where players can't take advantage his short range and think Ahri is really good. He's also really, really OP in TT and Dominion. | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
My friend who makes up the fifth man in a group was one of the ones who played lol the longest, but got bored of it so we don't usually have five for a team which sucks =(. Anyway, he has some attachment to old school styles of building champs so I was thinking if I could get a build for him that builds that way adapted to the new meta, he might find the game more fun. We're not trying to be competitive at all, so something that's cool and works in solo queue would be excellent. He liked Mordekaiser, but he never liked the ap mid morde build. He used to build old old school tank morde, with sunfire and fon, and that's the style he likes. Tank morde I'm not sure about how to do, but bruiser morde I'm thinking has more promise maybe. Maybe...triforce into randuins + tank items? His q scales on bonus ad, so maybe a bloodthrister into full tank build? Sunfire wits? 21 in defence seems obvious, then 9 in offense is probably the way to go. Standard armor yellows, mr blues, and depending on what I decide on ap or ad, some sort of penetration marks. Quints are preference I guess. To be honest, bruiser itemization is probably what I have the worst grasp of, so any help will be appreciated. I'll take some suggestions, and see how they work out in practice. After that I'll write a guide or something for my friend. EDIT: To clarify, I'm looking for a bruiser morde (ap or ad, leaning towards ad atm) build I can test out. Not one that'll make bruiser morde viable competitively, but something strong in solo queue. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 29 2012 13:46 pschiu wrote: At least you see people getting LW cause "enemy team is stacking armor!" I have to keep nagging my AD carry allies to get LW when necessary instead of stuff like MBR. T.T LW is worse damage than a 2nd PD on a lot of champs. And is always less than an IE (if you went BT first or TF>BT). The only plausible reason for pros buying it so often (besides silliness) is that it gives you a faster powerspike (cheaper). IE>PD>LW is surprisingly non-ideal on a lot of AD Carries. | ||
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