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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On November 12 2012 13:01 Irave wrote: I don't know watching streams the higher elo tends to appear to be a giant troll fest. Since you frequently meet up with the same players, friendships/hate are created. My ignore list agrees. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4729 Posts
On November 12 2012 13:22 PiQLiQ wrote: I like the Honor system really. People have mannered up from what i can tell. I kinda feel the effect is wearing off, i am afraid the "mannering up" is only temporary. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
Reason for not giving out second chances anymore prior to a permaban: Player Support used to give players chances like this if they said "Just one last chance, I promise I will change!" 95% of the players ended up permabanned after their second chance. We learned not to do it anymore. It was extremely irresponsible to our good players. The number of average reports a player gets is actually extremely low: The average player has about 1 report every 100 games. I know players often hear they are being reported, but players usually forget or don't follow through at the end of a match. The average player with 2000 games actually has about 20-40 reports total. About the language use of "toxic players": There's an interesting tidbit here. We ran a language processing analysis once on 'good' players and 'toxic' players and tried to determine the most common words used by these populations. It turns out that for some of the most toxic players in the world, the most common word they use is "reported." They run social metrics to identify remade accounts: Secondly, we can run analysis on your friends buddy lists to determine which new account they play with is you. Afterall, we can detect how many times you've played with people on your friends list to predict what your next account is and who your closest friends are. Pro Players in S3 are going to be held to some sort of code of conductance: The eSports team is driving most of this in Season 3 and the player behavior team is assisting them. Pro players have never been immune from the Tribunal, LeaverBuster or any punishment systems; however, we admittedly haven't proactively investigated their behaviors either. This is changing. Edit: I bolded the important parts to make it a bit more readable. | ||
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riotjune
United States3393 Posts
Figured if I was going to get reported anyway I might as well do it for real lmao MIDORIFEED/AFK | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
Anonymity and a lack of consequences can produce dicks but being too harsh and strict can produce a sterile insincere environment. They need to find a sweet spot somehow. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 13 2012 02:35 mememolly wrote: I understand wanting to ban idiots who AFK if they don't get what they want and people who are just dicks for the sake of it but rage is part of online gaming, it's like banter and anger etc on a footy pitch, it's emotion, emotion is pretty damn natural. Anonymity and a lack of consequences can produce dicks but being too harsh and strict can produce a sterile insincere environment. They need to find a sweet spot somehow. My belief is that this bottom 1% is really, really bad. I understand getting frustrated now and then, but if rage and profanity is the perpetual state of existence for a player, maybe they should try something else like gardening. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On November 13 2012 02:35 mememolly wrote: I understand wanting to ban idiots who AFK if they don't get what they want and people who are just dicks for the sake of it but rage is part of online gaming, it's like banter and anger etc on a footy pitch, it's emotion, emotion is pretty damn natural. (obviously I'm not condoning emotions that are taken too far etc). Anonymity and a lack of consequences can produce dicks but being too harsh and strict can produce a sterile insincere environment. They need to find a sweet spot somehow. This is what I found interesting about the numbers that he gave out in the thread. People raging is part of online gaming, there is no way to deny that, but that doesn't necessarily mean, that most online gamers tend to rage. Quite the opposite according to the numbers that Lyte quoted. As I posted earlier, he says the average player gets one report every hundred games. One of the players that was specifically discussed has around 30 reports in 100 games and that is the order of magnitude which seems to be common in the banned part of the population. This is a huge difference. | ||
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
 this Lytche dude is owning all the little moaning assholes that you see daily Lol is slowly becoming a nicer game to play! | ||
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
On November 13 2012 02:24 zer0das wrote: Uh oh, better stop ironically saying "reported" and replace it with more "better nerf Irelia." >_> Notice how the worst 1% frequently say reported, not that people who frequently say reported are the worst 1%. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On November 13 2012 02:53 BlueSpace wrote: This is what I found interesting about the numbers that he gave out in the thread. People raging is part of online gaming, there is no way to deny that, but that doesn't necessarily mean, that most online gamers tend to rage. Quite the opposite according to the numbers that Lyte quoted. As I posted earlier, he says the average player gets one report every hundred games. One of the players that was specifically discussed has around 30 reports in 100 games and that is the order of magnitude which seems to be common in the banned part of the population. This is a huge difference. 30 reports in 100 games is nothing, considering the people I've been getting in some of mine -.-;; But then I guess that they don't follow through on their threats or I would've been permed a long time ago. | ||
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MrF
United States320 Posts
On November 13 2012 02:35 mememolly wrote: I understand wanting to ban idiots who AFK if they don't get what they want and people who are just dicks for the sake of it but rage is part of online gaming, it's like banter and anger etc on a footy pitch, it's emotion, emotion is pretty damn natural. (obviously I'm not condoning emotions that are taken too far etc). Anonymity and a lack of consequences can produce dicks but being too harsh and strict can produce a sterile insincere environment. They need to find a sweet spot somehow. I think its the toxic players who need to find the sweet spot, you can talk shit without getting reported every game, you can express your opinions without being a dick, the whole thing is basically moderated by players and if you are getting reported 5 times a game its not because of banter its because you are being a dick and trying to make people miserable, there is a difference, also at a sports game you can't just say whatever you want with no consequences because the people you are talking shit to are standing about 20 feet from you not 20,000 miles away behind a computer so its not really the same situation. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
Countrary to what idiots think, it's really easy to be a decent guy in a MOBA. Saying "raging is a part of online gaming" is no excuse. No one cares if you rages, you won't get reported or banned for raging because no one knows how you act behind your computer. It's when you take it out on the other players on your team that there's a problem. If you want to rage, smash the wall or something stupid like that, don't write shit in the chat. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On November 11 2012 21:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I'm pretty sure that I'm toxic, but I'm funny and usually much smarter than the people that i'm insulting when I'm toxic so it makes it a lot less likely that tribunal and riot will do anything about it. People that call themselves "funny" rarely are. | ||
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
On November 13 2012 04:25 IntoTheWow wrote: People that call themselves "funny" rarely are. That's even more true for people who call themselves "clever." | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 13 2012 02:35 mememolly wrote: I understand wanting to ban idiots who AFK if they don't get what they want and people who are just dicks for the sake of it but rage is part of online gaming, it's like banter and anger etc on a footy pitch, it's emotion, emotion is pretty damn natural. (obviously I'm not condoning emotions that are taken too far etc). Anonymity and a lack of consequences can produce dicks but being too harsh and strict can produce a sterile insincere environment. They need to find a sweet spot somehow. Banning people who intentionally feed when they get mad is 100% justified as well imo. That's kinda like going afk but on steroids and with an extra "f you" at the end. | ||
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
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