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On November 13 2012 09:36 Steelavocado wrote: I am honestly surprised I did not get perma banned. I consider myself very toxic and that really needs to change if I want to make it through season 3.
I am sure people that get perm-banned do not think of themselves as toxic. That's how they get perm-banned if you think about it.
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Yeah I dunno about you guys but I tried to be actively toxic with that game. I basically recite the movie gran torino in all chat and people still give me honor points or whatever. I feel like how well you play the game heavily influences whether people are reporting you rofl.
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Ymir wrote on page 106 You're very likely nowhere near as witty as you think you are from the perspective of other players. Unless you host a show called QI, starred in several seasons of Blackadder, and hung around with House before he was famous then you're likely not being viewed with the fondness given to a celebrated British intellect either.
I don't mean this as an insult, but even if Stephen Fry hopped in a game and made a remark so razor sharp it actually cut the screen and caused nearby animals to convulse in laughter he'd likely end up getting a ban at some point. You have 30 minutes or so with strangers, they will likely not share your sense of humour or "get the joke" and laughing at others is never going to endear you to people.
In short it's a possibility, just consider what you're saying and how other people view it.
oh snap!
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On November 13 2012 10:20 Exempt. wrote: Yeah I dunno about you guys but I tried to be actively toxic with that game. I basically recite the movie gran torino in all chat and people still give me honor points or whatever. I feel like how well you play the game heavily influences whether people are reporting you rofl.
i have typed out the lyrics to call me maybe in pre-game chat and in game chat on multiple occasions.
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On November 13 2012 10:20 Exempt. wrote: Yeah I dunno about you guys but I tried to be actively toxic with that game. I basically recite the movie gran torino in all chat and people still give me honor points or whatever. I feel like how well you play the game heavily influences whether people are reporting you rofl.
I think that a lot of people wouldn't be surprised if you said that there was a correlation with losing and the number of reports.
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do win traders and elojobbers count as toxic players? haha
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I always call what i want to play. It's not always the same but the call is always: "I'd like to play XXX, otherwise anything is OK." and I've never caught any flak (that I know of) but then again I rarely get to play what I request.
I guess I'm just hoping that by calmly stating what I want to play, we might find a team setup that everyone will enjoy without last pick going apeshit because he/she is stuck with support.
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I'm kind of surprised this resulted in a permaban. Out of all the cases, only #1 looks that bad to me. The rest aren't exactly stellar, but they're not awful either. I guess he's been given a lot of chances already though... part of me wonders how bad this person has been over time, because I know I've said stuff that is a lot worse and never been punished once.
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On November 13 2012 22:00 zer0das wrote:I'm kind of surprised this resulted in a permaban. Out of all the cases, only #1 looks that bad to me. The rest aren't exactly stellar, but they're not awful either. I guess he's been given a lot of chances already though... part of me wonders how bad this person has been over time, because I know I've said stuff that is a lot worse and never been punished once.
Probably it was not his first case, and there are tons of statistics you dont see. Btw thanks for the link, that thread is gold.
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On November 13 2012 22:00 zer0das wrote:I'm kind of surprised this resulted in a permaban. Out of all the cases, only #1 looks that bad to me. The rest aren't exactly stellar, but they're not awful either. I guess he's been given a lot of chances already though... part of me wonders how bad this person has been over time, because I know I've said stuff that is a lot worse and never been punished once. Might be the straw that broke the camels back. There was another guy in the thread, that complained he didn't get a warning. Lyte just posted his warning/ban history. He had sth. like 11 bans... So I think it is hard to judge each individual case.
I also think it is impressive that Riot is ready to discuss individual permabans on a public forum. All it would take is one case, they cannot justify for the entire thing to go up in flames and their credibility out the window. I think the fact that they are willing to discuss these things in such a way shows how confident they are in their decisions.
And it is great entertainment to read Lyte smack down trolls... pure gold.
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I think it's very helpful for them to talk about it because it debunks the conspiracy theories that people love to make about unjust banning / tribunal doing nothing / etc.
I still think the tribunal has some issues in high elo cases where people are going to run into the same players constantly, and if you aren't well liked in the high elo circle, you can easily get banned for basically nothing because of how much confirmation bias there is when people study the tribunal.
(Case in point: Ente. Having watched his stream more than once, I find that he's in no way toxic, but he gets reported a lot because a handful of people don't like him? And then the tribunal just introduces confirmation bias.)
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pre-game calling leads to 90% of my tiffs in that game (the other 10% being quitters or obnoxiousness)).
Seriously, it's not kindergarten. You don't get it because you licked it first. I will always take what will best help the team at the current time.
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On November 13 2012 10:20 Exempt. wrote: Yeah I dunno about you guys but I tried to be actively toxic with that game. I basically recite the movie gran torino in all chat and people still give me honor points or whatever. I feel like how well you play the game heavily influences whether people are reporting you rofl.
That's not toxic, it's just annoying and mute-worthy.
Reports are for people who take a top when one has already been drafted, cross the line on insults, and just give up (in a close game) or afk when they don't get their way.
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http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/76978-lets-talk-about-abuse-of-the-report-feature
This two-month-old link leads to the NA version of the same thread, in case you missed it at the time. If you enjoyed reading the OP's link, this one is at least as entertaining. In this version, Lyte does less "Leave our game and never come back" but quite a bit more "I'm not overturning your ban, here's the part of the story you left out." It's not high art but gosh it's fun to read.
I've investigated your old account and it 100% deserves a permanent ban. Don't call people *******. Don't rail on players all game for mistakes they make. Player Support even watched you in a few games and you displayed horrid behavior. You are also extremely toxic in Champ Select Lobby. It's not OK to tell the team to **** themselves, then choose whatever you want then call everyone nasty names... then proceed to act normal in the actual game chat. Thanks OP, I enjoyed the EU link too.
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silly riot trying to create a good environment in a dota based game i got permabanned and i havent even played the game in a year now
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On November 14 2012 07:38 Caller wrote: silly riot trying to create a good environment in a dota based game i got permabanned and i havent even played the game in a year now You must have been quite the character when you played LoL a year ago then... what seems very clear after looking over that hilarious thread is that everyone who got permabanned deserved it.
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On November 13 2012 22:00 zer0das wrote:I'm kind of surprised this resulted in a permaban. Out of all the cases, only #1 looks that bad to me. The rest aren't exactly stellar, but they're not awful either. I guess he's been given a lot of chances already though... part of me wonders how bad this person has been over time, because I know I've said stuff that is a lot worse and never been punished once.
How is this worthy of a perma ban? In any which way or form... Only game 1 was bad but even then; I really hope that this user had like 5 temporary bans before this. He even got reported in games where following his stats he was making positive contributions to his team and although he flamed slightly, he was by no means excessively toxic, this is kind of ridiculous. People should just except that anywhere <1400 is casual and if you're good enough you'll get out of it yourself
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i dont play LoL, but that thread is golden. good laugh.
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