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On November 11 2012 11:29 Irave wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 10:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
My suggestion far as lanes go would to have a "role elo" for every role-- you'd pick the role you want in a game before you queue, then get matched up with people who want to play the other roles.
Problem is, Riot has openly stated they don't like the current role meta. I think the sound of that sounds good, sorta like what they did in WoW with the dungeon finder. Though every so often you would get the guy that queued up as a tank refusing to do so. He just did this to be able to play and not sit in a lengthy q. I could see this quickly becoming an issue in the low mid elo range. Higher elo with a noticeably less player pool, it would almost become unplayable with even longer q times. Since Riot already has access to pregame chat, you just report. Them playing a role other than what they signed up for would also just be a report. Nothing gained.
Then they get reported under a specific option like "Not playing role". Plus, their ELO likely tanks and it raises a red flag. You can also simply look at the champ they play and the role they picked, and you can probably figure out if it was ok unless they run something new or gimmicky.
Still, this tacit endorsement of the current meta might inhibit creativity. I'm no theory crafter, but its still my own personal belief the current tanky top/ap mid/utility tanky jungler/dual support adc bot is here to stay, except for maybe a lane switch or something.
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On November 11 2012 11:48 Riot Lyte wrote:Actually, I remember you because I reviewed your case personally during the audit process. I'm sorry to say that we don't want you to keep playing League of Legends
lol
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On November 11 2012 10:47 WhiteDog wrote:
LoL is the only game where you can be perma - banned for saying something. It's pure bullshit for me and it's the format of the game that leads to that tension between players. I just don't understand that (I've never been banned so I'm not saying that to defend myself, just my own point of view).
I usually just insta ignore in game players who bore me so that I never feel the urge to respond to them (and I never enabled the all chat) but I would understand someone getting frustrated when after a play, a cocky noob feel like he is in a position where he can give you advice or criticise your play.
In fact, there are dozens of games where you can be permanently banned for language.
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On November 11 2012 10:47 WhiteDog wrote:
LoL is the only game where you can be perma - banned for saying something. It's pure bullshit for me and it's the format of the game that leads to that tension between players. I just don't understand that (I've never been banned so I'm not saying that to defend myself, just my own point of view).
I usually just insta ignore in game players who bore me so that I never feel the urge to respond to them (and I never enabled the all chat) but I would understand someone getting frustrated when after a play, a cocky noob feel like he is in a position where he can give you advice or criticise your play.
In the vast majority of games with the propensity to be able to ban, you can most certainly be banned for what you say. Usually not specific words, but more how you use your words to treat others. Fuck, most games will ban you just for spamming.
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I dunno, TL is pretty strict albeit really cool
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Wow. I don't play LoL but I saw this thread and thought it might be interesting. Followed the link in the op and just read every post by the Riot employee and I have to say that was pretty hilarious. The fact that some of these people have 1000+ reports on their account and still think that the are a friendly player that doesn't deserve punishment is beyond me..
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Really glad toxic players are being removed, but I also wish they would create a solution to the whole lane calling problem .
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You mean beyond the section of the Summoner's Code stating that pick order trumps call order?
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On November 11 2012 14:05 Aldrovandi wrote:
You mean beyond the section of the Summoner's Code stating that pick order trumps call order?
No one reads the Summoner's Code though :/
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On November 11 2012 14:13 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 14:05 Aldrovandi wrote:
You mean beyond the section of the Summoner's Code stating that pick order trumps call order? No one reads the Summoner's Code though :/
Ignorance of the law is no excuse!
Although, in reality it comes down to either you losing ELO because some raging kid didn't get his role or you relinquishing the role and hoping for the best. Generally, you lose either way, so maybe getting someone raging and banned is worth it, I dunno.
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Why am I still allowed to play? Hmmm
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On November 11 2012 14:05 Aldrovandi wrote:
You mean beyond the section of the Summoner's Code stating that pick order trumps call order?
Except it doesn't really say that at all, if you actually read it.
Being a good team player begins at champion select. Be open minded when considering the needs of your team. If you’re the last one to pick, try to fill a niche in your team that hasn’t already been filled. If everyone’s picked and something stands out as a deficiency in your team composition, try asking for another player to fill the gap, or change roles to embrace that responsibility yourself. Remember, that by taking on a role you don’t normally play, you’ll learn more about unfamiliar champions and increase your own skill level.
I think a big problem is that people try to create these hard-line rules from this thing that's intentionally vague -- and then try to use them to justify their behavior. What it really means is to just be adaptable and accommodating.
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On November 11 2012 14:20 hasuprotoss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2012 14:13 HazMat wrote:On November 11 2012 14:05 Aldrovandi wrote:
You mean beyond the section of the Summoner's Code stating that pick order trumps call order? No one reads the Summoner's Code though :/ Ignorance of the law is no excuse! Although, in reality it comes down to either you losing ELO because some raging kid didn't get his role or you relinquishing the role and hoping for the best. Generally, you lose either way, so maybe getting someone raging and banned is worth it, I dunno.
That is why there should be the "pregame report". If someone calls a lane and their team wins, players likely forget about it. If their team loses but the caller wasn't the worst player on the team, he likely got away with it. Moreover, properly reporting "callers" requires much more effort than reporting someone who uses slurs in teamchat.
However, callers have a much more negative impact on their teammates' experience and probably the teams' ability to win. It literally has the potential to take the team's best players out of their favorite (and probably best) roles. Pick order is suppose to reward players for having a higher ELO. Perhaps one of Riot's new pregame messages should be "calling a role is a bannable offense."
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Calling a role should never become a bannable offense. It's only when you get butthurt and react or play negatively if you don't get that role that it should become a reportable offense.
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On November 11 2012 15:11 Craton wrote:
Calling a role should never become a bannable offense. It's only when you get butthurt and react or play negatively if you don't get that role that it should become a reportable offense.
You mean like 80% of the players who don't get the role they called? Role calling, IMO, is just too highly correlated with bad behavior to not consider it bad behavior. Its like price fixing in antitrust.
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last thing I want is to have every champ select be the kind where I have no idea what the fuck people are picking until they lock in. even when I am last pick I cannot stand this (unless you mean specifically this role or feed?) I have no idea what you have against people saying what they prefer to play when the room opens.
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Who are these people who call that they "prefer" a role. In a ton of games its basically a mad dash between 1-3 of the other players in my game to quickly type "mid" and "top", or the even more ridiculous "mid/top XXX" where they call a lane AND a champ.
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Eh. As long as people aren't assholes if they don't all get what they want when there's conflicts between people "calling" something, it's fine. I usually call top, but will not complain one bit if i jungle or support.
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RIOT police busting in on the ragers and trolls. Way to go
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Seeing that I didn't get banned, i don't want to imagine how toxic those banned players are.
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