EPT[Patch 1.0.0.146: Late August] General Discussion - Page 80
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Tarz
Canada106 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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fasdaf
138 Posts
On September 07 2012 02:10 NeoIllusions wrote: This. LW is a reactionary item. If the other team isn't stacking Armor, you're better off with a BF Sword item for more deeps. LW is much much better than you'd think. A level 16 Ezreal with flat AD reds+quints and all AD/armorpen masteries needs 24 stacks on BT for Dblade+TF+BT to outdamage Dblade+TF+LW against 100 armor and 17 stacks against 80 armor. Meanwhile Dblade+TF+BT Mystic Shot will never outdamage Dblade+TF+LW Mystic Shot if Ezreal has lvl5 Mystic Shot, and the Trinity Force bonus damage benefits from LW but not BT, so I'd argue that TF->BT is actually quite poor compared to TF->LW. TF+IE certainly stacks up much better, but it also costs significantly more. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Also what about Aphro's brutalizer Ez build? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On September 07 2012 02:27 UniversalSnip wrote: brand does not have mana issues, at all. You do not need the grail :<. This. I don't understand why some people think brand has mana issues. just play better lol. I probably might pick up playing with him soon. DFG brand sounds funny | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On September 07 2012 03:16 phyvo wrote: So Riot's talking about changing Twitch again (since no one's playing him) and a designer is throwing around some unfinished ideas. I personally like him as he is minus not being able to cancel his stealthing for an instant Q steroid. Waiting 3 seconds while under fire is a real pain in the butt. All this talk about more drastic changes has me rolling my eyes and seems like the typical Riot rework train (though I've loved the eve changes). I don't think it's necessary. The fact of the matter is there will always be a least played champion, and in many cases it has nothing to do with the champion being weak and everything to do with players simply not experimenting/breaking from "what works". From what I've seen of Twitch his early game isn't actually all that weak if you pair him with a CC-oriented support like Taric, Leona, Blitz, or Fiddle. Expunge has an extremely forgiving range, so even if you get hit with Exhaust or they blink away after a CC you can still hit them with it for more damage than a perfectly positioned Buckshot. I think it's the definition of foolishness to take a champion you know is balanced and change them simply because they don't fit the current meta. That sort of thinking shrinks possibilities and stagnates the game. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On September 07 2012 03:42 zulu_nation8 wrote: if you havent noticed this is how league of legends opinions work, every item has been around forever and everyone knows how they work. There are reasons for and against every way of specing a champion, when pros do something in a tourney or on stream, the reasons for his choice are repeated throughout the community and the reasons against are forgotten. Chaox rushes wriggles on ADs? Oh it's because wriggles gives dragon control, good laning stats and allows you to lasthit easier, nevermind the fact you won't do damage for 20min, nah no one cares about that. Chaox rushes tf + bt on corki and ezreal? It's because tf gives good utility and bt gives you sustain and damage, tf + lw lol? Never seen a pro do it must be bad. Genja does TF -> LW -> GA on Corki. On September 07 2012 03:12 Zhiroo wrote: Apparently Deman has to either quit eSports or quit his job. And this is what RiotMagus sent him: @qvDeman Let's talk. You're too good to walk away. RiotDeman maybe? I'd love that. Deman at every tournament! Demand has said many times he wants to cast full time but he can't because he has to work full time as a web developer to pay rent. Can't blame him. On September 07 2012 03:45 Seuss wrote: I don't think it's necessary. The fact of the matter is there will always be a least played champion, and in many cases it has nothing to do with the champion being weak and everything to do with players simply not experimenting/breaking from "what works". From what I've seen of Twitch his early game isn't actually all that weak if you pair him with a CC-oriented support like Taric, Leona, Blitz, or Fiddle. Expunge has an extremely forgiving range, so even if you get hit with Exhaust or they blink away after a CC you can still hit them with it for more damage than a perfectly positioned Buckshot. I think it's the definition of foolishness to take a champion you know is balanced and change them simply because they don't fit the current meta. That sort of thinking shrinks possibilities and stagnates the game. Twitch is really good. Really, really good. Nerfed a million times in testing and still too good. No one knows how to play him right, lane him right, trade with him right. I've already posted before about this. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
edit: afaik, ezreal's w and q are independent of his attack animation, so it's basically about autoing while shooting your shit at them, with the added benefit that they are also good poking skills and an amazing line AOE AS debuff/buff. Citation needed tho, i'm not actually sure that's how it works, but that's how i try to play it. | ||
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AwayFromLife
United States441 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 07 2012 03:49 wei2coolman wrote: Genja gets away with the lack of lifesteal on BT, because of the GA, thus making LW + Triforce work on corki, not to mention Corki's mechanics are quite a bit different than EZ's. Ez's is about AA resetting, making AS a little less useful. Corki's all about casting between AA, so AS a bit better fit. genja also runs 19/11/0 and tabis/mercs on his ezreal/corki so I dont think we should take him as an example because most people play ad carry 21/0/9 with zerkers genja OP | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On September 07 2012 03:57 AwayFromLife wrote: How hard was Graves hit? Haven't played him since patch, but he's my go-to AD because, well, Graves. I take it his late game is a bit less insane? His nerfs are grossly overstated. He's fine. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
also multiple GA rush op'd. | ||
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AwayFromLife
United States441 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:10 Craton wrote: His nerfs are grossly overstated. He's fine. Good to hear, he's about the only thing I feel I can safely pick into Ez these days aside from Corki, who I suck at. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:15 WhiteDog wrote: Riot taking Deman would be a great great move. Him + Jatt is the best casting combo that LoL has ever seen. Riot taking him in would be great, especially seeing as the other Riot casters haven't been that great (Phreak and Riv III might be great for newcomers to the game, they don't have the quality for (semi-)finals). I can see Jaws improving a lot over time though, that guy does have potential. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35166 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:21 Doctorbeat wrote: Him + Jatt is the best casting combo that LoL has ever seen. Riot taking him in would be great, especially seeing as the other Riot casters haven't been that great (Phreak and Riv III might be great for newcomers to the game, they don't have the quality for (semi-)finals). I can see Jaws improving a lot over time though, that guy does have potential. please LoL take him. and stop sending phreak to cast your tournaments @.@ | ||
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