EPT[Patch 1.0.0.146: Late August] General Discussion - Page 81
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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AwayFromLife
United States441 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:15 AwayFromLife wrote: Good to hear, he's about the only thing I feel I can safely pick into Ez these days aside from Corki, who I suck at. Don't mean to quote myself, but too late for an edit. Speaking of picking into Ez, one of my friends picks Cait into him, says it's a counter. How so? Every time I play Cait into Ezreal, he just harasses super hard and bursts me down. First couple levels are easy with her autos > his, especially when it comes to range and her passive, but once he gets a couple points in Q or W, it's impossible to do anything to him. Someone teach me? | ||
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
people say "it's great for newcomers" but i don't think they're good for them either. the vast majority of the audience knows how to play the game and the information they're giving sounds like a manual which makes it really annoying. i wouldn't even consider it analysis. when i think of casting i think of scarra's stream. he says a lot of super obvious stuff and what he plans to do and it's not exactly high level analysis, but he's never blatantly wrong, (like the evo/curse match when curse took 2 inhibs and riv III said it's now time for them to get exp on their carries because the minions are flooding in. not only is that a dumb strategy but their carries were already level 18) and most of all he makes the audience think that they're smart. his stream was the one i watched when i was first starting to pick up the game and i needed to get a feel for the entirety of the game and what different heroes and items do. On September 07 2012 04:28 Mogwai wrote: I guess it's just that I've come from the FGC, but all I want is people flippin' out on the mic. wtb Yipes as a LoL commentator. JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN when i watched dota2's international, i felt like the casters were much more laid back and casual and i feel like it works a lot better for the game. like just dudes messing around, making fun of bad plays, praising good plays, etc. very similar to a lot of FGC stuff but not as hype. the trash talk and friction in the pro LoL scene would really lend itself well to these more hype commentators. i think that's why oddone is so fun to watch. why they keep getting dudes in suits and providing wannabe espn analysis, i don't know. the key to this game is let the star players shine? wtf. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On September 07 2012 03:45 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Twitch is really good. Really, really good. Nerfed a million times in testing and still too good. No one knows how to play him right, lane him right, trade with him right. I've already posted before about this. Seriously, phyvo was gone all summer driving boats at a summer camp. He came back, we queued together, and we went Twitch/Fiddle bot. I had never played support Fiddle before, he hadn't played the game in months. We proceeded to absolutely demolished the Varus/Leona lane we went up against. It was so one-sided that even though the enemy Darius got fed off our jungler we still forced a surrender shortly after 20 minutes. Anecdotes are not the same as comprehensive data, but Twitch is the definition of sleeper OP. He's the #8 Least Played champion. It's as baffling as Viktor, who's #5. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:24 Gahlo wrote: Team captain just banned graves/corki/ez. lol Did you win? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
don't know why people keep saying Jaws has potential, like he seems like someone who speaks english with good social skills but what about his casting do you even like? he's not hype, he's innaccurate, his understanding of the game is shallow and he has the used car sales RIot employee caster aura that Riv and Phreak can't seem to shake. It feels like people say he has potential just to avoid calling him a bad human being or something, it's ok for something to just not be someone cup of tea, he's still probly a nice guy I mean he seems really social. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:28 Mogwai wrote: I guess it's just that I've come from the FGC, but all I want is people flippin' out on the mic. wtb Yipes as a LoL commentator. lol really? i bet you're a Smash player tho. play a real fighting game! i know SSB is technically demanding with a high execution barrier at top level play but goddamn if it isn't a clusterfuck of fat children of 4chan at tournaments | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:34 Seuss wrote: Seriously, phyvo was gone all summer driving boats at a summer camp. He came back, we queued together, and we went Twitch/Fiddle bot. I had never played support Fiddle before, he hadn't played the game in months. We proceeded to absolutely demolished the Varus/Leona lane we went up against. It was so one-sided that even though the enemy Darius got fed off our jungler we still forced a surrender shortly after 20 minutes. Anecdotes are not the same as comprehensive data, but Twitch is the definition of sleeper OP. He's the #8 Least Played champion. It's as baffling as Viktor, who's #5. One of the biggest reasons I think is because there's no big famous person who plays champions like Viktor and Twitch. I mean look at how hard the Gragas bandwagon has been when everyone knew Gragas was good and has always been good. Zzzz. It's easy to copy someone else's methods and knowledge. It's far, far, harder to come up with it. Take Nunu top for instance. We might never have known about one of the most abusive top laners and the cruicial build you need to use to stay viable throughout the game were it not for Gizmo. But the compeitive players who have perhaps the most influence over this still stick to their shallow champion pools and don't venture out enough. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:31 StateAlchemist wrote: I dont see how cait is a counter to ezreal tbh She's not, imo. If Ez has half a brain, he'll realize that he can duel her with no problems through 99% of the game, unless her support is way the fuck better than his. If Cait wants to win, she'd have to push madly (since he can't do anything about it), trap and ward the hell out of bot, and then siege and take an early tower, forcing him on the back foot and using her range and traps to control zones. Still, given that, he can E over traps and burst her to death unless, again, her support way outplays his. | ||
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Arekan
United States248 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:28 Mogwai wrote: I guess it's just that I've come from the FGC, but all I want is people flippin' out on the mic. wtb Yipes as a LoL commentator. Yipes casting LoL would be awesome. It wouldn't even matter if he doesn't know what's going on, it would be worth it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: lol really? i bet you're a Smash player tho. play a real fighting game! i know SSB is technically demanding with a high execution barrier at top level play but goddamn if it isn't a clusterfuck of fat children of 4chan at tournaments Whoa, you dissing Mog? you be stirring up trouble in dis subforum! | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:32 kainzero wrote: watching regionals i felt the casters were subpar, mostly Riv III. I can only mute Rivington, I don't get how anyone can listen to that. Apart from having very little insight, half of the time he doesn't even form cohesive sentences. He just says random words one might use while casting a game. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:49 h3r1n6 wrote: I can only mute Rivington, I don't get how anyone can listen to that. Apart from having very little insight, half of the time he doesn't even form cohesive sentences. He just says random words one might use while casting a game. LOL This is sooo true fuck rivington completely impossible to listen to. It's like he's a highschool kid writing an essay and wants to get extra marks by using fancy words so he just randomly slots in big words. I can hear him saying "mentality game" over and over jesus fuck it's annoying. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:46 wei2coolman wrote: Whoa, you dissing Mog? you be stirring up trouble in dis subforum! grow up and get out of his ass. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: lol really? i bet you're a Smash player tho. play a real fighting game! i know SSB is technically demanding with a high execution barrier at top level play but goddamn if it isn't a clusterfuck of fat children of 4chan at tournaments Really? In my community there actually were no fat people, also they all are really cool people - Still friends with many of them. Actually one of Finland's reasonably famous fashion designers was a semi-pro at SSBM etc. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
On September 07 2012 01:04 Slusher wrote: Ahri is not a Ryze counterpick. She's good vs him at the levels where basically everyone is good vs him, but he's one of the few champions that can go toe to toe with her at 6 assuming he's not already way behind. about Annie, I've actually wondered to myself why she hasn't become more popular with the rise of the DFG army, if you think about it the item really covers a lot of her weaknesses. her W is still way too expensive tho >.> Is max W on Annie a good idea to counter pushing mids? | ||
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