EPTI would also recommend Malph, although he's banned way too much.
Or if you don't mind buying a 6,3k ip champ, go for Leona or Nocturne.
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Antyee
Hungary1011 Posts
I would also recommend Malph, although he's banned way too much. Or if you don't mind buying a 6,3k ip champ, go for Leona or Nocturne. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On September 11 2012 21:57 Zdrastochye wrote: Go buy Wukong, never look back. Or Darius. No...don't buy wukong,monkey sucks balls and your gonna get dunked by every popular lane atm. Lee sin is very fun to play either top(kinda fallen off lately) or jungle,Jayce is really good right now as well. On September 11 2012 22:03 Antyee wrote: Teemo and Yorick. -_-' | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On September 11 2012 21:53 qtiehunter wrote: but I just want to jump on the enemies from the bushes and kill them before they get in tower range  /noobtalk So I take it that people will continue pushing into oblivion until high level games where junglers and mid roamers are able to consistently pull off succesful ganks? This is a sad day for me Sorry for annoying you guys with my silly question, I was genuinely curious. Thanks for the answers ^^. Move on! What you're asking about sounds like good lane control (i.e. pushing when its a good idea, and freezing near tower when it's not). And chances are you'll see it in at least 1 lane in every game (can't speak for like sub 1200 ranked), and yeah lane control and judgement improves as you gain elo, but it's not drastic. From watching streams you'll see 2k+ players with poor lane control, but great mechanics and teamfight decision making, so it's not like it ever goes away completely. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Darius scales well and rapes most melees, making him a pretty good pick in almost every situation. You need to know how to not die to ganks, though. | ||
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Agnosthar
631 Posts
On September 11 2012 14:31 Seuss wrote: Actually, in the case of Karthus it's incorrect to say that Health Regen Quints are better. By level 3 the amount of healing given by Spell Vamp Quints is roughly equal assuming you use Q to last-hit minions, and only becomes better thereafter or if you're pushing. Health Regen Quints aren't clearly better than other sustain options, it's always dependent on the matchup and champion involved. They have a slight tendency to be better, but it's not a strong enough trend to always make that assumption. In some cases that works, and in others you're against a champion who can shove harder with less effort. If that was my strategy I'd probably want Movespeed Quints and a quick Boots 2. After reading this discussion I'm still not understanding the logic behind people picking sustain quints on Karthus. What champions can harass Karthus hard enough to warrant taking sustain quints? As long as you don't push lane, such is the range and damage of q on single minions it's very do-able to get every cs on your way to 1.3k for Catalyst. Personally once I get Catalyst I've almost never felt like I need more lane sustain. I can afford a Catalyst just before/as I hit level 6, so again, who are you guys laning against that can harass you out of lane through your 3 pots pre-6? I can think of maybe 1 or 2 champions that can give you that hard a time early on, and vs those champions flat MR blues or even MR quints would surely be better? | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
depending on that I will make my choice | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:37 Chexx wrote: Jayce and Leona what runes do you need for them? depending on that I will make my choice Jayce is standard top: AD-ArPen/Ar/Mr/AD. Leona is more or less standard support: Ar/Ar/Mr/GP5, but I'm sure there are other ways to do it. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On September 11 2012 23:37 Chexx wrote: Jayce and Leona what runes do you need for them? depending on that I will make my choice On Leona flat health/armor and truck people. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 11 2012 20:07 BlueSpace wrote: I think you are misrepresenting his argumentation slightly to be honest. He states very clearly that they do not want to give teams in general the possibility to largely skew the game in their favor by "winning" the draft. So he is as opposed to counter-picking as he is to counter-banning. Whether one is more relevant than the other is therefore irrelevant to him, as he won't neither to happen. Also you stated earlier that they should orient themselves at Hon/Dota, but they can't do that if they want to generate a completely different drafting experience. So the entire premise of how to make the draft more strategic is actually missing the point I think. They don't want to create another Dota. They want a game which is less strategic and more action-based. Then his point of view is totally detached from the way the draft actually works. As much as he doesn't want counterpicking, it's already an extremely critical portion of the draft. | ||
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qanik
Denmark1899 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
On September 12 2012 00:13 qanik wrote: What is up with CLG saying they would stream alot more once they are back home, and I have yet to see any of them.. I believe they are waiting on getting better internet, but I did see Jiji streaming yesterday | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 12 2012 00:13 Slusher wrote: If anything a 2nd ban phase will reduce the amount of counter picking. because now your 3rd and 5th picks are both protected. This is a good point that's also supported by the fact that drafting in DotA is actually noticeably less counterpick-oriented than LoL. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
Edit: Duoing with Gosu Pepper now. | ||
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fcgog
United Kingdom876 Posts
On September 12 2012 00:24 Ferrose wrote: How often does Diamondprox stream? This is the first time I've seen him streaming. Nonetheless, I'm excited. like this is the first time he's ever streamed | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On September 12 2012 00:24 Ferrose wrote: How often does Diamondprox stream? This is the first time I've seen him streaming. Nonetheless, I'm excited. First time GET IT WHILE ITS HOT | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
FML I have a paper due in an hour. | ||
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
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