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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 11 2012 17:28 GMT
#2881
On September 12 2012 02:20 qtiehunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 01:32 Solaris.playgu wrote:
On September 11 2012 21:31 qtiehunter wrote:
Genuine question:

at what summoner level do people realize that pushing your lane 24/7 is bad in 90% of the cases?


I got you bro. What you're talking about is everyone mindlessly autoattacking minions without even trying to lasthit from level 1 onwards. This is not a question of summ level, but a question of rating. I just started a smurf account to play with a noob friend, and the first few games everyone was just completely brainless. Or at least it seemed that way. Now I've put some games under my belt and reached summ level 3, and people actually start fielding junglers :D Anyways, don't fret about summoner level, if you do well your rating will increase and you will get to play with better people.


Oooooooooh. Now you did help me! That's exactly what I needed to know, thanks ^^

Guess it's tryharding time for me then -.- How is rating calculated? Only by W/L ratio or is there any other factor involved like score and game length?

Thanks again!

It's also who you win and lose against, as any Elo or similar MMR system. Just because you're 120-80 wins/losses doesn't put you in the same place as someone else who is also 120-80. But yes, the game DOES only consider win / loss as far as rating your performance. Obviously this leaves you losing some games where -you- played well and others played poorly, but if you're consistent with playing well then you'll overall climb upwards.
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 17:34:47
September 11 2012 17:31 GMT
#2882
On September 12 2012 02:24 OutlaW- wrote:
Just w/l.
FYI my level 20 account has 90 wins and 40 losses and gets 10-50 minute queues, so tryharding too much can backfire


It's k I'm too terrible to get anything better than 60% winrate no matter how hard I try ^^"

Thanks for your answer!


On September 12 2012 02:28 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 02:20 qtiehunter wrote:
On September 12 2012 01:32 Solaris.playgu wrote:
On September 11 2012 21:31 qtiehunter wrote:
Genuine question:

at what summoner level do people realize that pushing your lane 24/7 is bad in 90% of the cases?


I got you bro. What you're talking about is everyone mindlessly autoattacking minions without even trying to lasthit from level 1 onwards. This is not a question of summ level, but a question of rating. I just started a smurf account to play with a noob friend, and the first few games everyone was just completely brainless. Or at least it seemed that way. Now I've put some games under my belt and reached summ level 3, and people actually start fielding junglers :D Anyways, don't fret about summoner level, if you do well your rating will increase and you will get to play with better people.


Oooooooooh. Now you did help me! That's exactly what I needed to know, thanks ^^

Guess it's tryharding time for me then -.- How is rating calculated? Only by W/L ratio or is there any other factor involved like score and game length?

Thanks again!

It's also who you win and lose against, as any Elo or similar MMR system. Just because you're 120-80 wins/losses doesn't put you in the same place as someone else who is also 120-80. But yes, the game DOES only consider win / loss as far as rating your performance. Obviously this leaves you losing some games where -you- played well and others played poorly, but if you're consistent with playing well then you'll overall climb upwards.


Oh, that sounds like just ELO system. It's ok, I don't care about having a high rating, I just want to play with people who reacts to baron/dragon calls, who can set up ganks and doesn't autoattack the creeps nonstop and all that stuff. Now I know how. Thanks guys!
RIP KT.Violet
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
September 11 2012 17:34 GMT
#2883
the ddoth hath begun
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
September 11 2012 17:42 GMT
#2884
fuck sake, cant kids just stop this i want diamond back
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 11 2012 18:11 GMT
#2885
Why do people ddos? It's such a waste of time for everyone...

Also, was playing Rengar jungle due to free week, and decided to play him AD, god this guy does no fucking damage as AD >.>. considering his kit, I was expecting some serious burst AD damage, but nope, didn't do shit for damage. I did more damage with my W than I did with my Q's, even with triforce. Pretty absurd how lackluster his damage is, as an AD
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
September 11 2012 18:16 GMT
#2886
Before diamond got DDos'd he was raping with jungle renger until he hit lategame and then couldn't do anything.

He went boots dblade mark thingy (got like 14 stacks) aegis randuins spirit visage.
aka Teutonica
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
September 11 2012 18:18 GMT
#2887
On September 12 2012 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
Before diamond got DDos'd he was raping with jungle renger until he hit lategame and then couldn't do anything.

He went boots dblade mark thingy (got like 14 stacks) aegis randuins spirit visage.

then GA
first game he streamed he was 7 2 13 then like 7 6 16
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 11 2012 18:18 GMT
#2888
It's not really the hero thought, he play really great, especially when and how to engage.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 11 2012 18:19 GMT
#2889
I want to try Jungle Vlad.

I don't know why. It just sounds entertaining.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 18:25:05
September 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#2890
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues. (won the game, but not because of me, I got carried so unbelievably hard).

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.
liftlift > tsm
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
September 11 2012 18:24 GMT
#2891
It's bad because Vlad is very bad level 1, below average level 3, then level 5 7 and 9 spike him by a lot
Basically your early game is too weak to jungle effectively, shit costs too much HP(E) and doesn't do enough damage to really clear
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 11 2012 18:27 GMT
#2892
On September 12 2012 03:22 wei2coolman wrote:
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues.

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.

Spellvamp quints?

I don't even own him, but I'm saving up. My thought was he's a good tanky caster that scales well into late game and can carry games, and can go both top and mid. I like flexibility and power, so it seemed obvious. And then I was like, "Healing? AoE? Slow? Can build health someone effectively?", and the little jungler in me perked up.

I should try it in bots this free week.
It's your boy Guzma!
Arekan
Profile Joined February 2011
United States248 Posts
September 11 2012 18:51 GMT
#2893
Jungle Vlad doesn't work so well because of a few reasons. The big ones are that he scales too well with levels and farm and that he needs the levels in order to be successful late. He also doesn't really have great gank potential from the jungle unless your lanes have great CC. I can't think of anything else but I'm sure theres something.

It would be worth a try either way though.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 11 2012 18:51 GMT
#2894
On September 12 2012 03:22 wei2coolman wrote:
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues. (won the game, but not because of me, I got carried so unbelievably hard).

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.


that might be the most troll thing I've ever read on here, including pretty much everything caller ever posted.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
September 11 2012 19:00 GMT
#2895
On September 12 2012 03:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 03:22 wei2coolman wrote:
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues. (won the game, but not because of me, I got carried so unbelievably hard).

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.


that might be the most troll thing I've ever read on here, including pretty much everything caller ever posted.


Never forget pre-remake Eve top.

RIP PrinceXizor

You'd be surprised how well some things work in normals. For me I always have the most farm in the game, even if i play jungle. I recently played a game of jungle poppy and had a blast.

On another note Shikyo was saying some pretty Xizor-esque things in the DotA 2 GD
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 11 2012 19:08 GMT
#2896
theres been a lot of Xizor esqe activity going on lately but ppl stay civil so w/e, if you are civil you can talk to me about dfg varus and I'll lend an ear.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 11 2012 19:15 GMT
#2897
On September 12 2012 03:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 03:22 wei2coolman wrote:
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues. (won the game, but not because of me, I got carried so unbelievably hard).

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.


that might be the most troll thing I've ever read on here, including pretty much everything caller ever posted.

I never said it was good >.>, not like i'm trying to convince anyone here that it's viable. some of the build posted recently have been more questionable, and people who posted them actually thought they were good builds...
liftlift > tsm
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 11 2012 19:20 GMT
#2898
On September 12 2012 03:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 03:22 wei2coolman wrote:
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues. (won the game, but not because of me, I got carried so unbelievably hard).

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.


that might be the most troll thing I've ever read on here, including pretty much everything caller ever posted.

Idk man Caller always raped hella hard with his seemingly troll builds.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 11 2012 19:22 GMT
#2899
I miss Rumble Jungle, it never really got off the ground because of the wota/revolver nerfs. Mind you I am a sick depraved bastard for playing Rumble.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
September 11 2012 19:26 GMT
#2900
On September 12 2012 04:20 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 03:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 12 2012 03:22 wei2coolman wrote:
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues. (won the game, but not because of me, I got carried so unbelievably hard).

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.


that might be the most troll thing I've ever read on here, including pretty much everything caller ever posted.

Idk man Caller always raped hella hard with his seemingly troll builds.


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