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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 11 2012 19:26 GMT
#2901
On September 12 2012 04:08 Slusher wrote:
theres been a lot of Xizor esqe activity going on lately but ppl stay civil so w/e, if you are civil you can talk to me about dfg varus and I'll lend an ear.

dfg Varus is trash

But how about we talk about Rageblade Varus?
real OP.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 11 2012 19:30 GMT
#2902
On September 12 2012 04:26 JokerSan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 04:20 arb wrote:
On September 12 2012 03:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 12 2012 03:22 wei2coolman wrote:
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues. (won the game, but not because of me, I got carried so unbelievably hard).

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.


that might be the most troll thing I've ever read on here, including pretty much everything caller ever posted.

Idk man Caller always raped hella hard with his seemingly troll builds.



Oh wow I commented on that a year ago. I miss caller so much :3
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 11 2012 19:33 GMT
#2903
On September 12 2012 04:22 Parnage wrote:
I miss Rumble Jungle, it never really got off the ground because of the wota/revolver nerfs. Mind you I am a sick depraved bastard for playing Rumble.

It's k just steal barno.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 19:35:12
September 11 2012 19:34 GMT
#2904
Now that I watched that video I miss old gp model so much.
Chest hair so manly it can poke your eye out.
Cackle™
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 11 2012 19:46 GMT
#2905
On September 12 2012 04:20 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 03:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 12 2012 03:22 wei2coolman wrote:
I've tried jungle vlad. it's hard, 9-21-0 masteries, with armor yellows, and blues. (won the game, but not because of me, I got carried so unbelievably hard).

My build was sort of silly though. boots 3pot, philo -> hog ->aotl->shurelyas->randuins. Just build pure health tank. lol.


that might be the most troll thing I've ever read on here, including pretty much everything caller ever posted.

Idk man Caller always raped hella hard with his seemingly troll builds.


Simply doing something unexpected will utterly screw up 90% of players. I played a game recently with a duo top on my team because of two idiots who adamantly wanted that lane solo. We ended up crushing the early game because the enemy top solo had no idea how to handle Karma + Kayle, and the enemy bot lane couldn't deal with my Cho'gath. After totally screwing over the enemy top lane, Karma came bottom and we destroyed them too. Minus some hilarious dives involving running past three turrets and several teamfights with our AP carry displaying aiming skills on par with Hazmat's Gragas video, it was a fairly one-sided game.

The reason this sort of insanity works is because most players don't develop their ability to analyze the game, but learn the offensive/defensive capabilities of opponents and team compositions through rote repetition. That works when an opponent sticks to the meta/standard build and matches your expectations, but not when things are thrown for a loop. Antics like running full Armor or MR pages, using non-standard support champions, or weird item builds can be effective by simple virtue of being unfamiliar.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
September 11 2012 19:47 GMT
#2906
Yeah that model seemed to fit the type of character he is/was more. I don't know why Riot had to make the top of his pants look like pubic hair in the splash art. Why did he have a laser eye? Who knows
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23461 Posts
September 11 2012 19:49 GMT
#2907
wasn't callers strat to rice up 2x everyone elses farm and ignore his team and then come and clean up with said farm when team has been behind from not having him in the map all game and be like "lol carried?"

i personally would never do something like that >.>
aka Teutonica
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 11 2012 19:50 GMT
#2908
hahahaha, man that reminds me of my friends brand+leona botlane combo. They did this at 1700elo to great success.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 11 2012 19:53 GMT
#2909
Krepo says Blue>Purple.

As a bot lane player it just sucks hard being purple due to pick order and map imbalance. If anything they should disconnect first pick from automatically having blue side and maybe even switch it up.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/tuck-esports-inquirer/21592-interview-with-clg-eu-support-krepo-it-just-sucks

I don't necessarily agree, but I do find counterjungling easier as blue 9/10 times there are no wards earlygame.
Freeeeeeedom
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 11 2012 20:00 GMT
#2910
What's there not to agree about, start blue side, take dbl goals hit two first, zone enemy bot lane so hard they started in Alaska, and now see Russia.

It's a big deal
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 11 2012 20:02 GMT
#2911
golems alone are frustrating to deal with
Carrilord has arrived.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 11 2012 20:03 GMT
#2912
Is there any jungler that starts with Golems these days? If not, they could just make them spawn 5-10 sec later and get rid of that imbalance.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 20:11:45
September 11 2012 20:06 GMT
#2913
I thought the way to counter this, was to have jungler start red, and botlane gets wolves?

On September 12 2012 05:03 spinesheath wrote:
Is there any jungler that starts with Golems these days? If not, they could just make them spawn 5-10 sec later and get rid of that imbalance.

this would clear up the problem, but it's a very inelegant solution.

Also, considering the 1v2 lanes, that are becoming more popular, this should become less of an issue.
liftlift > tsm
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 11 2012 20:08 GMT
#2914
On September 12 2012 05:03 spinesheath wrote:
Is there any jungler that starts with Golems these days? If not, they could just make them spawn 5-10 sec later and get rid of that imbalance.

this is a bandaid fix and doesn't remedy the whole problem where purple can just take wolves when their jungler starts red. the map symmetry imbalances are a deeper problem that needs more thought before they do anything rash.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 11 2012 20:09 GMT
#2915
wolves will do way more damage to you than doubles because of how easily the support can kite them
Carrilord has arrived.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#2916
On September 12 2012 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:
I thought the way to counter this, was to have jungler start red, and botlane gets wolves?

Penalizes jungler starting red. You get to wolves before they spawn, whereas dbls, not so. Spose u could do wraiths red dbls wraiths wolves blue, but that seems slower than any kind of blue start.
Works fine if jungler is going for level two tank, but that doesn't work so well in the ward enemy wraiths era.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 11 2012 20:11 GMT
#2917
On September 12 2012 04:53 cLutZ wrote:
Krepo says Blue>Purple.

Show nested quote +
As a bot lane player it just sucks hard being purple due to pick order and map imbalance. If anything they should disconnect first pick from automatically having blue side and maybe even switch it up.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/tuck-esports-inquirer/21592-interview-with-clg-eu-support-krepo-it-just-sucks

I don't necessarily agree, but I do find counterjungling easier as blue 9/10 times there are no wards earlygame.


Don't know about that. First/Second pick is already a strong dynamic. Having it also tied to which side you start on seems a bit over the top.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 11 2012 20:12 GMT
#2918
On September 12 2012 05:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 04:53 cLutZ wrote:
Krepo says Blue>Purple.

As a bot lane player it just sucks hard being purple due to pick order and map imbalance. If anything they should disconnect first pick from automatically having blue side and maybe even switch it up.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/tuck-esports-inquirer/21592-interview-with-clg-eu-support-krepo-it-just-sucks

I don't necessarily agree, but I do find counterjungling easier as blue 9/10 times there are no wards earlygame.


Don't know about that. First/Second pick is already a strong dynamic. Having it also tied to which side you start on seems a bit over the top.

It already is...?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 11 2012 20:14 GMT
#2919
Yes that's what i'm saying if you just look at it it would make more sense for them not to be linked.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 11 2012 20:14 GMT
#2920
On September 12 2012 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:
I thought the way to counter this, was to have jungler start red, and botlane gets wolves?

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 05:03 spinesheath wrote:
Is there any jungler that starts with Golems these days? If not, they could just make them spawn 5-10 sec later and get rid of that imbalance.

this would clear up the problem, but it's a very inelegant solution.

Also, considering the 1v2 lanes, that are becoming more popular, this should become less of an issue.

Just go kill them at their golems with your mid nps. Take your jungler too you can delay his blue.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
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