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On September 11 2012 12:31 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 12:09 iCanada wrote:On September 11 2012 11:55 Feartheguru wrote:On September 11 2012 11:51 Juddas wrote:
concerning the middlesticks, does anyone play him?
In the super farmy/shove lanes I scale E>W>Q, and in the dueling lanes I go W>E>Q, however, I almost feel like I want to go
WQEWQEWQEWQE in every lane The only thing good about fiddle in the middle is that you can gank with ult. Also most lane kills happen by fearing then just ulting in their face. Nooooo. Most lane kills happen by being sneaky and hiding behind the wall where there is no vision like you went back, then ulting over the wall and doing a full combo. That way you save fear for them running. + Show Spoiler +You hide at the red, they the X. As for the other dots on the map, I dunno, I lazy and just did quick google search for LoL map. <_< fear duration rank 2: 1.5 sec, channel time for ult: 1.5 sec. if they don't buy mercs (and mid lane has a pretty good chance to not buy mercs), then fiddles can just fear -> ulti. admittedly, it requires pretty good timing if your fear is lvl 2, but lvl 5 fear is 3 sec, and there's no way you can fuck that up.
Fear-->start ult--->enemy champ feared towards their tower, they keep running nps. What I'm saying is fuck you fear and your RNG direction.
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Riot is offering 10 IP Win boosts if they are called MMO of the year or something like that...it really sounds like bribery.
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On September 11 2012 13:14 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 13:03 Requizen wrote:
Should Jayce or Nid win in a straight fight during lane? I always seem to win trades (hammer her shit and back out), but always lose when I try to stand and fight. I think it's the heal. Her heal is also an AS steroid, and her (cat) QWE all do pretty solid damage. Not sure if you're supposed to win the straight up all-in once she's a kitty - especially since her cooldowns are MUCH shorter than yours and her Q scales with your missing health
I did not know that's how her Q works :S
I probably need to play her or read up or something. I feel like enemies with high sustain are hard for Jayce, tho.
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On September 11 2012 13:45 Shiragaku wrote:
Riot is offering 10 IP Win boosts if they are called MMO of the year or something like that...it really sounds like bribery.
They do it all the time.
Once upon a time we actually got decent rewards: skins, rune page. Now it's just another IP boost every time.
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I guess at this point people who read dick-sucking video game publicity farm sites have probably already been exposed to lol. Not as much value for riot.
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I'm surprised dota fangirls haven't came at the thought of insulting riot for "bribery" yet, considering they like to make shit up about the game. Might as well actually use something real to insult them for a change.
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On September 11 2012 13:57 BlackPaladin wrote:
I'm surprised dota fangirls haven't came at the thought of insulting riot for "bribery" yet, considering they like to make shit up about the game. Might as well actually use something real to insult them for a change.
someone is mad
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On September 11 2012 13:57 BlackPaladin wrote:
I'm surprised dota fangirls haven't came at the thought of insulting riot for "bribery" yet, considering they like to make shit up about the game. Might as well actually use something real to insult them for a change.
*knock on wood* I wouldn't be surprised that if LoL wins, that dota fangirls are going to create a shitstorm by claiming Riot was trying to buy exclusivity on the survey.
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1 game from 2100 and its my birthday
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On September 11 2012 08:06 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 06:40 Cloud9157 wrote:On September 11 2012 05:48 Eppa! wrote:On September 11 2012 05:19 Seuss wrote:On September 11 2012 05:07 Eppa! wrote:Why you guys always try to prove me wrong  You make a lot of absolute statements that are pretty easy to prove wrong. See, the forums are an ocean, the posters are sharks, and posts like that are bloody, meaty carcasses some research organization dropped in the water. It's inevitable that everyone is going to fight to take a bite out of the juicy, delicious freebie. Also, Karthus makes great use of Spell Vamp quints because Q ignores the AoE penalty when you hit a single target. Akali is probably the most obvious champion for Spell Vamp quints outside of Kennen, so I'm surprised no one has mentioned her yet. Well not all my posts are like that. However i really disagree with Karthus and Akali on spell vamp quints. Akali is much better of with AD quints and pen marks her damage is so much higher that way. Also i don't believe Morgana, LB and Ryze are bad MU. Morgana is even; if your blue lane (lane closest to blue) helps you against the first and second blue respawn invade you are winning. LB is really really easy her scaling sucks sooo hard. sure she can kill you at 7; its not possible at 6 (1v1) you just need to keep up in farm decently and you are going to win the game. Ryze can't go aggro for a long time if you have a ganking jungler. Swain is also even he is better 1-5 slighly better 6-10 even 11-15 much worse at 16-18 Can't say I play LB, but I don't understand why she can't kill you at 6. I always thought 6 was where everyone pretty much said "well, I had fun losing half my health from her combo, now I get to lose all of it". And you're referencing late game Karth, which is pretty much the best ap in the game. No one brings that much damage to a team like he does. Ryze can, but he doesn't apply it to everyone, just kills people one at a time. When I say he has bad matchups, I'm pretty much referencing in lane, which is 1-whenever laning ends. She need level 4 q to have enough damage to kill you 1v1 Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 06:58 Seuss wrote:On September 11 2012 05:48 Eppa! wrote:On September 11 2012 05:19 Seuss wrote:On September 11 2012 05:07 Eppa! wrote:Why you guys always try to prove me wrong You make a lot of absolute statements that are pretty easy to prove wrong. See, the forums are an ocean, the posters are sharks, and posts like that are bloody, meaty carcasses some research organization dropped in the water. It's inevitable that everyone is going to fight to take a bite out of the juicy, delicious freebie. Also, Karthus makes great use of Spell Vamp quints because Q ignores the AoE penalty when you hit a single target. Akali is probably the most obvious champion for Spell Vamp quints outside of Kennen, so I'm surprised no one has mentioned her yet. Well not all my posts are like that. However i really disagree with Karthus and Akali on spell vamp quints. Akali is much better of with AD quints and pen marks her damage is so much higher that way. You'll do more damage with MPen, but at the cost of sustain and trade potential. With just base MR factored in MPen Akali and Spell Vamp Akali are roughly even in a trade, with Spell Vamp Akali having an extremely slight advantage (which grows as MR increases). The problem for MPen Akali is that between trades Spell Vamp Akali heals for significantly more. MPen Akali, barring jungler intervention or misplays by her opponent, loses the lane to attrition. Spell Vamp Quints on Karthus are for when you're against an opponent who forces you to farm and outscale them rather than go for the kill. Having a 1000 range ability which bypasses the AoE penalty is absurdly good for weathering harass through Spell Vamp. You don't necessarily use them in all situations. If you want early game sustain hp regen is much better. Lategame it's worse and lacks the QQ factor but it quite clearly better for early game sustain. Also its bizarre to rune for in case they want to give you an advantage which a freefarm Karthus lane is. Akali is better
Actually, in the case of Karthus it's incorrect to say that Health Regen Quints are better. By level 3 the amount of healing given by Spell Vamp Quints is roughly equal assuming you use Q to last-hit minions, and only becomes better thereafter or if you're pushing.
Health Regen Quints aren't clearly better than other sustain options, it's always dependent on the matchup and champion involved. They have a slight tendency to be better, but it's not a strong enough trend to always make that assumption.
On September 11 2012 09:32 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 08:25 Agnosthar wrote:On September 11 2012 06:40 Cloud9157 wrote:On September 11 2012 05:48 Eppa! wrote:On September 11 2012 05:19 Seuss wrote:On September 11 2012 05:07 Eppa! wrote:Why you guys always try to prove me wrong You make a lot of absolute statements that are pretty easy to prove wrong. See, the forums are an ocean, the posters are sharks, and posts like that are bloody, meaty carcasses some research organization dropped in the water. It's inevitable that everyone is going to fight to take a bite out of the juicy, delicious freebie. Also, Karthus makes great use of Spell Vamp quints because Q ignores the AoE penalty when you hit a single target. Akali is probably the most obvious champion for Spell Vamp quints outside of Kennen, so I'm surprised no one has mentioned her yet. Well not all my posts are like that. However i really disagree with Karthus and Akali on spell vamp quints. Akali is much better of with AD quints and pen marks her damage is so much higher that way. Also i don't believe Morgana, LB and Ryze are bad MU. Morgana is even; if your blue lane (lane closest to blue) helps you against the first and second blue respawn invade you are winning. LB is really really easy her scaling sucks sooo hard. sure she can kill you at 7; its not possible at 6 (1v1) you just need to keep up in farm decently and you are going to win the game. Ryze can't go aggro for a long time if you have a ganking jungler. Swain is also even he is better 1-5 slighly better 6-10 even 11-15 much worse at 16-18 Can't say I play LB, but I don't understand why she can't kill you at 6. I always thought 6 was where everyone pretty much said "well, I had fun losing half my health from her combo, now I get to lose all of it". And you're referencing late game Karth, which is pretty much the best ap in the game. No one brings that much damage to a team like he does. Ryze can, but he doesn't apply it to everyone, just kills people one at a time. When I say he has bad matchups, I'm pretty much referencing in lane, which is 1-whenever laning ends. Spellvamp quints on Karthus sounds really terrible to me. You're almost always going catalyst, so you have loads of lane sustain anyway. Plus it's pretty hard to harrass Karthus much when he can last hit from 1k range. Also, missing out on the AP quints can make the difference when ult'ing other lanes. Calling Karthus the best AP in the game isn't true anymore, the last 2 nerfs to his R and W mean there better AP's to choose from now imo. Karthus went from AP for every situation to only specific comp, that's not to say he's still got one of the best laning phases in the game. It's fairly stable, most match ups are very doable, the tough match ups are usually ahri/kass, but those aren't impossible lanes by any means. As far as spellvamp quints on karthus, generally you just shove the lane with Q's, and then back, and you should be back in lane with full mana/health without missing too many cs.
In some cases that works, and in others you're against a champion who can shove harder with less effort. If that was my strategy I'd probably want Movespeed Quints and a quick Boots 2.
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And another week of "I have most of the free champs already anyway". This is kinda depressing lol.
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On September 11 2012 14:29 zulu_nation8 wrote:
1 game from 2100 and its my birthday
Sooooo, how did it go!?
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On September 11 2012 14:49 Nikon wrote:
And another week of "I have most of the free champs already anyway". This is kinda depressing lol.
Disregard free weeks, acquire all champions.
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Fiora's burst is retardedly strong. What the fuck.
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On September 11 2012 14:16 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 13:57 BlackPaladin wrote:
I'm surprised dota fangirls haven't came at the thought of insulting riot for "bribery" yet, considering they like to make shit up about the game. Might as well actually use something real to insult them for a change. someone is mad
Not exactly mad, more disappointed that people on TL of all places are so close minded about differet games. I personally don't play that many games in comparison to most gamers, but I don't go out of my way to insult specific games/genres for no real reason other than baseless hatred. To me it's expected to happen on the main game forums, since a ton of casual gamers are just kids. But TL has always in my mind been the home of more mature gamers, so seeing those childish finger pointing type of arguments "you're bad cause you suck! Here is something i made up to prove it!" is just sad...
On September 11 2012 15:13 Nikon wrote:
Fiora's burst is retardedly strong. What the fuck.
Yeah and she's one of the few champs that can even make irelia, the immoveable object in lane, go crying back to the fountain. 
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I agree with you for the most part Paladin...
Though I am a very big fan of the subjective truth idea, I hate how it is applied to judging games. There seems to be almost no objectivity most of the time when comparing different pro games.
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On September 11 2012 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
... I don't go out of my way to insult specific games/genres for no real reason other than baseless hatred ...
You literally just called the DotA fans "fangirls" and insinuated that they make shit up to insult LoL.
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On September 11 2012 15:55 arnath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
... I don't go out of my way to insult specific games/genres for no real reason other than baseless hatred ... You literally just called the DotA fans "fangirls" and insinuated that they make shit up to insult LoL.
He insulted the fanbase, not the game.
When you see the constant shit from the DotA 2 forum on TL, of course most of us would become upset with them. And there is nothing more disgusting than seeing SC II newcomers stating that LoL is ruining DotA.
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Everytime I manage to get top, and get Nunu, there is an Irelia on the other side eating my face... what do I do wrong =(
I just E her every waking moment and try to take last hits, I take an early 2nd point in Q. I barely ever cross the river, mostly on my half of the lane... Still, getting majorly wrecked.
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