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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 11 2012 03:18 GMT
#2761
Could also be a trap map. These are the spots you try to avoid when you're ganking nidalee without a ward or deciding to take your chances on ganking a teemo.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
September 11 2012 03:25 GMT
#2762
looks like a teemo shroom map to me
some of those dots dont make sense for wards
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 03:32:08
September 11 2012 03:31 GMT
#2763
On September 11 2012 12:09 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 11:55 Feartheguru wrote:
On September 11 2012 11:51 Juddas wrote:
concerning the middlesticks, does anyone play him?

In the super farmy/shove lanes I scale E>W>Q, and in the dueling lanes I go W>E>Q, however, I almost feel like I want to go

WQEWQEWQEWQE in every lane


The only thing good about fiddle in the middle is that you can gank with ult. Also most lane kills happen by fearing then just ulting in their face.


Nooooo.

Most lane kills happen by being sneaky and hiding behind the wall where there is no vision like you went back, then ulting over the wall and doing a full combo. That way you save fear for them running.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


You hide at the red, they the X. As for the other dots on the map, I dunno, I lazy and just did quick google search for LoL map. <_<

fear duration rank 2: 1.5 sec, channel time for ult: 1.5 sec. if they don't buy mercs (and mid lane has a pretty good chance to not buy mercs), then fiddles can just fear -> ulti. admittedly, it requires pretty good timing if your fear is lvl 2, but lvl 5 fear is 3 sec, and there's no way you can fuck that up.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 11 2012 03:35 GMT
#2764
On September 11 2012 12:31 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 12:09 iCanada wrote:
On September 11 2012 11:55 Feartheguru wrote:
On September 11 2012 11:51 Juddas wrote:
concerning the middlesticks, does anyone play him?

In the super farmy/shove lanes I scale E>W>Q, and in the dueling lanes I go W>E>Q, however, I almost feel like I want to go

WQEWQEWQEWQE in every lane


The only thing good about fiddle in the middle is that you can gank with ult. Also most lane kills happen by fearing then just ulting in their face.


Nooooo.

Most lane kills happen by being sneaky and hiding behind the wall where there is no vision like you went back, then ulting over the wall and doing a full combo. That way you save fear for them running.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


You hide at the red, they the X. As for the other dots on the map, I dunno, I lazy and just did quick google search for LoL map. <_<

fear duration rank 2: 1.5 sec, channel time for ult: 1.5 sec. if they don't buy mercs (and mid lane has a pretty good chance to not buy mercs), then fiddles can just fear -> ulti. admittedly, it requires pretty good timing if your fear is lvl 2, but lvl 5 fear is 3 sec, and there's no way you can fuck that up.


Or you can ult to them with that trick, then use that fear to stop them from flashing/using other pesky escapes. Not saying man mode fiddles ult doesn't work, just saying it not the most efficient way to ensure a kill.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 11 2012 03:39 GMT
#2765
tbh, if they flash it's not THAT huge of a deal, since fiddle ult cd is significantly less than a flash cd. Guess it wouldn't be the same for an escape skill, so it does depend on the matchup i suppose. (prob wouldn't work on gragass, for example)
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
September 11 2012 03:46 GMT
#2766
Been playing Annie more recently. This gurl is ridiculously fun. Feels awesome to be one of the burstiest(its a word now, deal with it) mid champs in the game. Just seeing a person's health go 100-0 gives me such a good feeling inside.

Kinda wonder why she isn't played more. Not saying shes sleeper op status, just think she might deserve a little more play than she gets now.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
September 11 2012 03:48 GMT
#2767
Nubbypoohbear has one of the best streams ever

http://www.twitch.tv/nubbypoohbear
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 03:51:18
September 11 2012 03:49 GMT
#2768
On September 11 2012 12:46 Cloud9157 wrote:
Been playing Annie more recently. This gurl is ridiculously fun. Feels awesome to be one of the burstiest(its a word now, deal with it) mid champs in the game. Just seeing a person's health go 100-0 gives me such a good feeling inside.

Kinda wonder why she isn't played more. Not saying shes sleeper op status, just think she might deserve a little more play than she gets now.


Low range so you're reliant upon flash to start your combo against long range mids. Once you stop insta-gibbing people, you have to start nailing pretty much their entire team with your stun bear to be really useful. Also easy to hog kills, so even if you're doing well, the rest of your team might not be.

Most games I play Annie I can rock people early on, but the more the game drags out, the weaker she feels.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
September 11 2012 03:50 GMT
#2769
Anyone have any resources for scraping the score screen of data?
twitch.tv/cratonz
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 11 2012 03:52 GMT
#2770
On September 11 2012 12:50 Craton wrote:
Anyone have any resources for scraping the score screen of data?


someone's getting lazy
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
September 11 2012 03:55 GMT
#2771
On September 11 2012 12:49 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 12:46 Cloud9157 wrote:
Been playing Annie more recently. This gurl is ridiculously fun. Feels awesome to be one of the burstiest(its a word now, deal with it) mid champs in the game. Just seeing a person's health go 100-0 gives me such a good feeling inside.

Kinda wonder why she isn't played more. Not saying shes sleeper op status, just think she might deserve a little more play than she gets now.


Low range so you're reliant upon flash to start your combo against long range mids. Once you stop insta-gibbing people, you have to start nailing pretty much their entire team with your stun bear to be really useful. Also easy to hog kills, so even if you're doing well, the rest of your team might not be.

Most games I play Annie I can rock people early on, but the more the game drags out, the weaker she feels.


Yeah, her range is pretty shitty, but I just feel she would be a ridiculously strong follow up to something like a Malph ult. They're knocked up long enough for you to aim your bear to hit most of them with it, assuming malph popped up enough of them.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 03:56:26
September 11 2012 03:55 GMT
#2772
I prefer Orianna for that. Gragas does more damage, too.
twitch.tv/cratonz
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 11 2012 03:59 GMT
#2773
Well lolking has data on every game you play and everyone in the games so you might be able to write a script that parses and analyzes the data from there. Would take a while though.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 11 2012 04:03 GMT
#2774
Should Jayce or Nid win in a straight fight during lane? I always seem to win trades (hammer her shit and back out), but always lose when I try to stand and fight. I think it's the heal.
It's your boy Guzma!
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
September 11 2012 04:07 GMT
#2775
nidalee beats the jayce ya.
GANDHISAUCE
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
September 11 2012 04:12 GMT
#2776
What skill order do you guys do for fiddle in the middle? With some champs it's really obvious but I feel that all of fiddle's skills get significantly better with ranks....
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 04:15:05
September 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#2777
On September 11 2012 13:03 Requizen wrote:
Should Jayce or Nid win in a straight fight during lane? I always seem to win trades (hammer her shit and back out), but always lose when I try to stand and fight. I think it's the heal.

Her heal is also an AS steroid, and her (cat) QWE all do pretty solid damage. Not sure if you're supposed to win the straight up all-in once she's a kitty - especially since her cooldowns are MUCH shorter than yours and her Q scales with your missing health
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 11 2012 04:19 GMT
#2778
On September 11 2012 13:14 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 13:03 Requizen wrote:
Should Jayce or Nid win in a straight fight during lane? I always seem to win trades (hammer her shit and back out), but always lose when I try to stand and fight. I think it's the heal.

Her heal is also an AS steroid, and her (cat) QWE all do pretty solid damage. Not sure if you're supposed to win the straight up all-in once she's a kitty - especially since her cooldowns are MUCH shorter than yours and her Q scales with your missing health


My experience is that Nidalee will roll Jayce over in lane with ease.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 11 2012 04:24 GMT
#2779
Agreed, which I find amusing, because Jayce and Nidalee are pretty similar and there's a lot of lanes where Nidalee can't handle it but Jayce is fine.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 11 2012 04:37 GMT
#2780
On September 11 2012 13:12 thenexusp wrote:
What skill order do you guys do for fiddle in the middle? With some champs it's really obvious but I feel that all of fiddle's skills get significantly better with ranks....

I can't think of one mid who fiddle can keep the lane even against without maxing E. It's the worst skill to max, but...
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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