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On August 27 2012 03:57 EquilasH wrote:
Have all you guys who are saying Wukong has too many bad matchups top actually played Wukong a decent amount?
His only 2 bad matchups against the popular picks are Irelia and Darius tbh (from my experience he lanes fine against Malphite, for example).
Edit: Also wtf @Sufficiency - is Wukong's roam bad all of a sudden? A stealth+ a crazy AoE ult....
His stealth is 1.5 seconds, not that great. Beside his ult, he has no CC.
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when i tried irelia vs wukong, wu won all the trades. he would dash, i would stun and W a couple times but i would still lose.
i was also rushing TF so once he got wriggles i couldn't do anything.
or maybe i'm bad. that is also a possibility.
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On August 27 2012 05:06 kainzero wrote:
when i tried irelia vs wukong, wu won all the trades. he would dash, i would stun and W a couple times but i would still lose.
i was also rushing TF so once he got wriggles i couldn't do anything.
or maybe i'm bad. that is also a possibility.
Now imagine you are playing Ahri, with no armor runes nor masteries, against Wukong in the mid lane.
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ya wukong mid works a bit like talon just better, after a few levels you start getting zoned like balls because you simply can't outtrade him if he manages to E on you
other ad guys that work mid are fiora talon and lee
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Riven and Gangplank are also two bruisers that work real well mid.
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You don't pick Wukong for his laning, you pick him for the fact that his Q and his ult are retardedly strong mid-late game. Actually, his entire kit is really good late game.
Even so, Wukong dunks on Vladimir top lane. His biggest advantage against other bruisers though is that he outscales them. That's not true anymore if you pit him against mid laners. If you're using him to shut down a mid laner, there's a lot of better options like Xin, Panth, Renekton, Riven etc.
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why are they better
please tell me because you seem to have played wukong mid many more times than me obviously
saying that riven renekton or xin are better mid than wukong is so bad that i almost didnt even make this comment, you should stop looking at shit just from a theoretical standpoint because in practice, wukong has a great late game as you said AND shits on anyone mid anyway so why would you pick someone else
edit: xin is fine
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What's wrong with Riven mid??
If you haven't tried Riven mid you honestly shouldn't comment on it - she's a beast.
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On August 27 2012 05:43 EquilasH wrote:
What's wrong with Riven mid??
If you haven't tried Riven mid you honestly shouldn't comment on it - she's a beast.
I think that has more to do with Riven being Riven than any specific matchups lol.
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i haven't tried riven mid? today seems full of enlightening experiences about myself that I didn't know about
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Well, from your post you were implying that Renekton and Riven were bad mid bruisers, which is not at all true for Riven (I won't comment on Renekton).
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If you like Riven mid then you should try Renekton mid 
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I was implying that wukong works better, especially since his scaling is so beast
that's just my opinion but i firmly believe it
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On August 27 2012 05:26 OutlaW- wrote:
, you should stop looking at shit just from a theoretical standpoint because in practice, wukong has a great late game
edit: xin is fine
you new around here or something?
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I dunno when I play jax top vs wukong I feel much stronger. Most people say the matchup goes to jax w/o intervention. That's why I say his laning is weak. He feels weak and easily counterpicked.
I don't play wukong but it's not all theory.
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how did you manage to cut the sentence in half yet include the edit that was in a different line
On August 27 2012 05:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
I dunno when I play jax top vs wukong I feel much stronger. Most people say the matchup goes to jax w/o intervention. That's why I say his laning is weak. He feels weak and easily counterpicked.
I don't play wukong but it's not all theory.
you're right, he does get counter picked easily, but if a champion existed that counters 50% of the hero pool and gets countered by the other half, he would still be a really strong champion
hell, even if he just completely stomped on 1 champion he would be viable, remember that 50% of the time you are counterpicking, nobody is saying that he's a good fp champion^^
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He is somewhat agreeing with you in an odd manner.
He is implying that people on TL don't want to look at anything beyong what's theoretical.
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i... know
i was only commenting about his mad quoting skills
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On August 27 2012 03:57 EquilasH wrote:
Have all you guys who are saying Wukong has too many bad matchups top actually played Wukong a decent amount?
His only 2 bad matchups against the popular picks are Irelia and Darius tbh (from my experience he lanes fine against Malphite, for example).
If by fine against Malphite you mean Malphite stacks armor and q's you all day long... then yeah. Matchups I personally have problems with:
Lee Sin, Olaf, Darius, Pantheon, Riven, Irelia (if her jungler helps her at all- they always do), Jax, Renekton. And I guess Poppy to some degree, but no one plays her...
So, pretty much all the fairly popular solo tops? Seems like it to me.
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There's not the slightest thing about Wukong mid that's better than Panth mid, they are literally the same except you don't have ranged harass (kinda important) and no global pressure therefore people are saying he's "bad". Is he necessarily "bad", maybe not but if there is not a SINGLE situation where you would want him, then by default it is fair to say he is bad at mid. Riven mid is different because she has mobility. Maybe there are situations where wukong > riven, but in all of those panth > wukong so why would you ever put him there?
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