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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 26 2012 23:32 GMT
#3041
so what do i run mid vs zyra?
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
August 26 2012 23:38 GMT
#3042
u run away from zyra
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 26 2012 23:40 GMT
#3043
You stack AP on a long-range instaclear like Xerath or TF and you just gtfo farming from miles away I guess.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 26 2012 23:47 GMT
#3044
i know that new accts get sporadic boosts to keep incentivizing playing. can someone detail these for me? i started a new acct to only play wukong until i am #1 wukong NA, but despite being undefeated over 12 games i'm still only level 6 with 2000 IP. i do not remember it taking this long to get IP when i made my first acct. i do remember there have been changes to leveling/exp. i have 400 RP from nowhere, is there another boost coming ever?


also i'm kind of doing what craton did with some data collection on his smurf
i'm tracking every champ that everyone on both teams plays as well as how many dodges there are pre-game, leavers during the game, when i level up, other milestones, how many skins appear in each game, kda, farm differential between myself and the highest farmer/second highest farmer, and how many friend requests i get after each game. is there any other pertinent info i should be collecting?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 23:48:50
August 26 2012 23:48 GMT
#3045
400 RP are given when you reach level 3 or 6 (can't remember), boosts aren't given at any moment. There were simply several handed over (I've still got 17 leftover wins from 2 different boosts on a smurf) because of the servers' instability over the course of the last few months, but none of them are tied to leveling.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 26 2012 23:53 GMT
#3046
wow, that's really unfortunate
i thought for sure there was like a level 5, 10, 15 prize to keep people playing.

i guess i will just have to grind out the IP for wukong the old fashioned way! wukong here i come!
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 00:04:42
August 26 2012 23:57 GMT
#3047
On August 27 2012 08:47 gtrsrs wrote:
i know that new accts get sporadic boosts to keep incentivizing playing. can someone detail these for me? i started a new acct to only play wukong until i am #1 wukong NA, but despite being undefeated over 12 games i'm still only level 6 with 2000 IP. i do not remember it taking this long to get IP when i made my first acct. i do remember there have been changes to leveling/exp. i have 400 RP from nowhere, is there another boost coming ever?


also i'm kind of doing what craton did with some data collection on his smurf
i'm tracking every champ that everyone on both teams plays as well as how many dodges there are pre-game, leavers during the game, when i level up, other milestones, how many skins appear in each game, kda, farm differential between myself and the highest farmer/second highest farmer, and how many friend requests i get after each game. is there any other pertinent info i should be collecting?


A huge difference is they killed IP grinding in custom games. IP from custom games used to be capped by # of games (6), and had a minimum of 71 so long as you didn't finish before 11:00. So you'd start a game with one bot, push mid hard, hold off winning until 11:00, and repeat 5 times. It took a little over an hour, but it was an easy 426 IP every day.

A lot of people, including myself, would play for first win then farm 6 customs and call it a day. If you won your first win easily you'd play a total of less than 2 hours and have 600-700 IP to show for it. It was a little monotonous, but so ridiculously time efficient that it was well worth it.

Today there's nothing remotely resembling that level of efficiency.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 27 2012 00:16 GMT
#3048
On August 27 2012 08:48 Alaric wrote:
400 RP are given when you reach level 3 or 6 (can't remember), boosts aren't given at any moment. There were simply several handed over (I've still got 17 leftover wins from 2 different boosts on a smurf) because of the servers' instability over the course of the last few months, but none of them are tied to leveling.


I've never gotten free RP.
Freeeeeeedom
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
August 27 2012 00:16 GMT
#3049
On August 27 2012 08:57 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 08:47 gtrsrs wrote:
i know that new accts get sporadic boosts to keep incentivizing playing. can someone detail these for me? i started a new acct to only play wukong until i am #1 wukong NA, but despite being undefeated over 12 games i'm still only level 6 with 2000 IP. i do not remember it taking this long to get IP when i made my first acct. i do remember there have been changes to leveling/exp. i have 400 RP from nowhere, is there another boost coming ever?


also i'm kind of doing what craton did with some data collection on his smurf
i'm tracking every champ that everyone on both teams plays as well as how many dodges there are pre-game, leavers during the game, when i level up, other milestones, how many skins appear in each game, kda, farm differential between myself and the highest farmer/second highest farmer, and how many friend requests i get after each game. is there any other pertinent info i should be collecting?


A huge difference is they killed IP grinding in custom games. IP from custom games used to be capped by # of games (6), and had a minimum of 71 so long as you didn't finish before 11:00. So you'd start a game with one bot, push mid hard, hold off winning until 11:00, and repeat 5 times. It took a little over an hour, but it was an easy 426 IP every day.

A lot of people, including myself, would play for first win then farm 6 customs and call it a day. If you won your first win easily you'd play a total of less than 2 hours and have 600-700 IP to show for it. It was a little monotonous, but so ridiculously time efficient that it was well worth it.

Today there's nothing remotely resembling that level of efficiency.


I can't remember this 11 minute mark, but I'm pretty sure that we would 5 man ward rush vs 5 bots in a custom game. Maybe the introduction of this mark killed the classic IP farm ward rush technique (I remember that it wasn't doable after a patch anymore).

At that time however, everyone bought as many sight wards as possible and took champs with AS or AD buffs (Ez, WW, Nunu, GP etc.). Then we rushed mid before minions (and bots) spawned and threw the wards down to tank the turret. So before the bots spawned at 1:30, we already had two mid towers down and just sieged the 3rd until we got the inhib. Lvl 3-4 bots couldn't defend vs super mionions and it was GG way before the 11th minute mark. So roughly 30 minutes for 350-500 IP. Not too shabby I'd say.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11712 Posts
August 27 2012 00:17 GMT
#3050
On August 27 2012 09:16 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 08:48 Alaric wrote:
400 RP are given when you reach level 3 or 6 (can't remember), boosts aren't given at any moment. There were simply several handed over (I've still got 17 leftover wins from 2 different boosts on a smurf) because of the servers' instability over the course of the last few months, but none of them are tied to leveling.


I've never gotten free RP.


You must have made your account at a weird time, then. I got RP on both of my accounts (450 on one, 400 on the other), and some people i know that played for a longer period of time got enough RP for 1-2 skins so far.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
August 27 2012 00:24 GMT
#3051
On August 27 2012 08:07 Zhiroo wrote:
Hmm Graves or Ezrael? I'm buying a new AD carry but I'm not sure which one to choose.


graves getting aspeed nerfs on tuesday, probably ezreal who isn't getting hit by the nerfs as hard
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 00:59:09
August 27 2012 00:49 GMT
#3052
On August 27 2012 09:16 little fancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 08:57 Seuss wrote:
On August 27 2012 08:47 gtrsrs wrote:
i know that new accts get sporadic boosts to keep incentivizing playing. can someone detail these for me? i started a new acct to only play wukong until i am #1 wukong NA, but despite being undefeated over 12 games i'm still only level 6 with 2000 IP. i do not remember it taking this long to get IP when i made my first acct. i do remember there have been changes to leveling/exp. i have 400 RP from nowhere, is there another boost coming ever?


also i'm kind of doing what craton did with some data collection on his smurf
i'm tracking every champ that everyone on both teams plays as well as how many dodges there are pre-game, leavers during the game, when i level up, other milestones, how many skins appear in each game, kda, farm differential between myself and the highest farmer/second highest farmer, and how many friend requests i get after each game. is there any other pertinent info i should be collecting?


A huge difference is they killed IP grinding in custom games. IP from custom games used to be capped by # of games (6), and had a minimum of 71 so long as you didn't finish before 11:00. So you'd start a game with one bot, push mid hard, hold off winning until 11:00, and repeat 5 times. It took a little over an hour, but it was an easy 426 IP every day.

A lot of people, including myself, would play for first win then farm 6 customs and call it a day. If you won your first win easily you'd play a total of less than 2 hours and have 600-700 IP to show for it. It was a little monotonous, but so ridiculously time efficient that it was well worth it.

Today there's nothing remotely resembling that level of efficiency.


I can't remember this 11 minute mark, but I'm pretty sure that we would 5 man ward rush vs 5 bots in a custom game. Maybe the introduction of this mark killed the classic IP farm ward rush technique (I remember that it wasn't doable after a patch anymore).

At that time however, everyone bought as many sight wards as possible and took champs with AS or AD buffs (Ez, WW, Nunu, GP etc.). Then we rushed mid before minions (and bots) spawned and threw the wards down to tank the turret. So before the bots spawned at 1:30, we already had two mid towers down and just sieged the 3rd until we got the inhib. Lvl 3-4 bots couldn't defend vs super mionions and it was GG way before the 11th minute mark. So roughly 30 minutes for 350-500 IP. Not too shabby I'd say.


As far back as I can remember finishing the game before 11 minutes resulted in 0 IP, and every discussion of the topic I can find references this limit (e.g. this archive). There was a very brief period following the IP rework where you could 5 man push mid in 5 minutes and get the 43 minimum IP, up through the entire 3 hours of custom game playtime, but that was squelched in less than a week.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 27 2012 00:57 GMT
#3053
On August 27 2012 09:16 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 08:48 Alaric wrote:
400 RP are given when you reach level 3 or 6 (can't remember), boosts aren't given at any moment. There were simply several handed over (I've still got 17 leftover wins from 2 different boosts on a smurf) because of the servers' instability over the course of the last few months, but none of them are tied to leveling.


I've never gotten free RP.

The 400 RP is since around last christmas, as every account not suspended/tempbanned that year received them as gift to promote attitude, and they added it to new accounts (upon reaching a certain level) to not screw people (also 400 RP is right below the first "interesting" stuff—namely skins—so it entices people to buy some more).
All EU accounts got 450 RP the summer of last year too, because of all the server instability. This way a bit before the server split in EU.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 27 2012 01:04 GMT
#3054
On August 27 2012 08:53 gtrsrs wrote:
wow, that's really unfortunate
i thought for sure there was like a level 5, 10, 15 prize to keep people playing.

i guess i will just have to grind out the IP for wukong the old fashioned way! wukong here i come!


Spend $5 and you have enough rp for vlad. Not my cup of tea to spend it on a smurf but a viable option.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
August 27 2012 01:12 GMT
#3055
All accounts got ~250 some time ago for server instability.
twitch.tv/cratonz
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 27 2012 01:31 GMT
#3056
Man the MLG thread is a pretty big shitstorm. Just a bunch of LoL haters coming in to kick us while we're down. This is going to sting.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 27 2012 01:33 GMT
#3057
On August 27 2012 10:31 HazMat wrote:
Man the MLG thread is a pretty big shitstorm. Just a bunch of LoL haters coming in to kick us while we're down. This is going to sting.

It's going to get worse over the next week I think.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
August 27 2012 01:34 GMT
#3058
On August 27 2012 09:24 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 08:07 Zhiroo wrote:
Hmm Graves or Ezrael? I'm buying a new AD carry but I'm not sure which one to choose.


graves getting aspeed nerfs on tuesday, probably ezreal who isn't getting hit by the nerfs as hard

Ezreal is getting nerfed much harder than Graves...
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 27 2012 01:35 GMT
#3059
On August 27 2012 08:32 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so what do i run mid vs zyra?


Are you talking about counters? Ahri or Katarina.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 27 2012 01:36 GMT
#3060
On August 27 2012 10:34 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:24 Perplex wrote:
On August 27 2012 08:07 Zhiroo wrote:
Hmm Graves or Ezrael? I'm buying a new AD carry but I'm not sure which one to choose.


graves getting aspeed nerfs on tuesday, probably ezreal who isn't getting hit by the nerfs as hard

Ezreal is getting nerfed much harder than Graves...

No more random free wins while looking good in my Pulsefire Ezrael. Real First World Problems.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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