EPT[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 154
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Craton
United States17296 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On August 27 2012 10:34 Craton wrote: Ezreal is getting nerfed much harder than Graves... They're fixing the hitbox on his W and then buffing his Q. I don't really see how it's that big of a nerf unless there's information you have that we don't have. The damage on his W was just a bonus compared to the strength of the AS slow which AFAIK, isn't getting touched. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
So now shit hits the fan for some people (I mean, apart from the obvious repercussions integrity-wise). | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On August 27 2012 08:01 UniversalSnip wrote: I don't know if any of you have ever actually built that item but entropy is completely broken. Entropy + ghostblade + tank items is pretty hilarious. Or just skip the ghostblade. It is like every bruiser becomes irelia plus whatever advantages they already had. | ||
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Craton
United States17296 Posts
Now that you're forced back to Q he loses a lot of his lane presence. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Craton
United States17296 Posts
On August 27 2012 10:40 Alaric wrote: Basically Dignitas and Curse agreed to split the prize money, got overheard, MLG investigated while the grand finals were taking place and announced a punishment (no prize money, no circuit points, no trophy, no title, basically) once they gathered whatever proof and information they needed. There's been a bit of it on tweeter, and Curse issued an apology video. So now shit hits the fan for some people (I mean, apart from the obvious repercussions integrity-wise). You're in the wrong thread. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 27 2012 10:47 Craton wrote: They're also nerfing AD Ezreal's W damage. You might recall that Ezreal wen't from "awful" to "always pick" when people realized to level W because you can hit it easily and it does a ton of damage. Now that you're forced back to Q he loses a lot of his lane presence. Its not even the ton of damage, its the suddenly my opponent does no damage in trades that last a reasonable amount of time. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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Craton
United States17296 Posts
On August 27 2012 10:55 iCanada wrote: Its not even the ton of damage, its the suddenly my opponent does no damage in trades that last a reasonable amount of time. Which is just back to the point that needing to level Q over W is a significant nerf for his lane presence. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On August 27 2012 11:08 thenexusp wrote: I think the biggest nerf to ezreal is the W hitbox decrease, don't think the damage reduction would do too much by itself. It shouldnt have been like that in the first place, it was complete horse shit to dodge it and still get hit because the particle was bugged | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 27 2012 12:02 arb wrote: It shouldnt have been like that in the first place, it was complete horse shit to dodge it and still get hit because the particle was bugged I would have just made the particle look wider to match. :3 | ||
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TheShadowPlayer1
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On August 27 2012 13:11 TheShadowPlayer1 wrote: Hi, I was just wondering what you guys think about buying nautilus for Jungle/Mid to get out of Elo hell 1000's with a buddy of mine, I'm looking to buy him as I like tanky jungle who can gank well and I want to know if he's a legit jungler/mid and whether he's worth the IP, but most importantly is if he's legit for playing Ranked Solo/Duo Que Welcome! As a warm welcome message: If you know what you're doing (hint: that means better than the other 9 dudes) pretty much any role/champion is valid. Play what you enjoy and try to get better at it. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 27 2012 13:11 TheShadowPlayer1 wrote: Hi, I was just wondering what you guys think about buying nautilus for Jungle/Mid to get out of Elo hell 1000's with a buddy of mine, I'm looking to buy him as I like tanky jungle who can gank well and I want to know if he's a legit jungler/mid and whether he's worth the IP, but most importantly is if he's legit for playing Ranked Solo/Duo Que Nautilus jungle pretty strong. I dunno why you'd play him mid though. Doesn't really have much nuking power, and I think his bullying power a little stronger top.... and even then why not just play him in the jungle and win all three lanes for you team? In general if you want to get out of "elo hell" just play better. And not necessarily better in terms of what would be better in a pro game, better for you elo. At that Elo people going to die a lot, people often make the mistake of trying to keep up with enemy champions farming your teammates by farming minions... while CS important you never going to keep up with someone farming champions by farming creeps, go farm champions too. | ||
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TheShadowPlayer1
31 Posts
iCanada Canada. August 27 2012 13:23. Posts 2411 PM Profile Quote # On August 27 2012 13:11 TheShadowPlayer1 wrote: Hi, I was just wondering what you guys think about buying nautilus for Jungle/Mid to get out of Elo hell 1000's with a buddy of mine, I'm looking to buy him as I like tanky jungle who can gank well and I want to know if he's a legit jungler/mid and whether he's worth the IP, but most importantly is if he's legit for playing Ranked Solo/Duo Que Nautilus jungle pretty strong. I dunno why you'd play him mid though. Doesn't really have much nuking power, and I think his bullying power a little stronger top.... and even then why not just play him in the jungle and win all three lanes for you team? In general if you want to get out of "elo hell" just play better. And not necessarily better in terms of what would be better in a pro game, better for you elo. At that Elo people going to die a lot, people often make the mistake of trying to keep up with enemy champions farming your teammates by farming minions... while CS important you never going to keep up with someone farming champions by farming creeps, go farm champions too. Okay just thought that Naut would be good mid cause of his ability to take dmg and pull to help jungler with ganks? | ||
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TheShadowPlayer1
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
there are certain reasons why other melee mids work, and most of them revolve around the threat of losing trades, which naut really does not have unless they walk up to your melee range. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 27 2012 13:29 TheShadowPlayer1 wrote: Okay just thought that Naut would be good mid cause of his ability to take dmg and pull to help jungler with ganks? Thats true, he is good at that, but why not play a more traditional AP carry with more burst/1man carry potential that can do the same? Like say Zyra, Orianna, Gragas, Anivia, Ryze, Viktor, Veigar etc. Not to say that Nautilus mid doesn't work, I honestly have no idea it might be really good, merely his damage doesn't scale super well. I mean, I guess it doesn't to because he has so much CC in his kit and is pretty good at tanking/bruising naturally, but in a typical teamcomp this role makes more sense from the jungle because he does his job of peeling just as well with or without farm, so might as well do it from a position where you don't get farm such as jungling. Then you can have a less farmed nautilus peeling (well, regardless of the fact that he lacks gold) for an AP carry that can devestate teams with nukes and AoE abilities instead of a farmed Naut peeling for a less farmed jungle assassin. | ||
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