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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 27 2012 04:37 GMT
#3081
Naut mid is sweet, don't listen to these guys O_o
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 27 2012 04:39 GMT
#3082
it's not bad, it's just not good.
Carrilord has arrived.
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 27 2012 04:39 GMT
#3083
On August 27 2012 13:37 UniversalSnip wrote:
Naut mid is sweet, don't listen to these guys O_o


No go big or go home with Blitzcrank AP mid. Hook city that mid.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
August 27 2012 04:42 GMT
#3084
On August 27 2012 13:29 TheShadowPlayer1 wrote:
Show nested quote +

iCanada Canada. August 27 2012 13:23. Posts 2411 PM Profile Quote #
On August 27 2012 13:11 TheShadowPlayer1 wrote:
Hi, I was just wondering what you guys think about buying nautilus for Jungle/Mid to get out of Elo hell 1000's with a buddy of mine, I'm looking to buy him as I like tanky jungle who can gank well and I want to know if he's a legit jungler/mid and whether he's worth the IP, but most importantly is if he's legit for playing Ranked Solo/Duo Que


Nautilus jungle pretty strong. I dunno why you'd play him mid though. Doesn't really have much nuking power, and I think his bullying power a little stronger top.... and even then why not just play him in the jungle and win all three lanes for you team?

In general if you want to get out of "elo hell" just play better. And not necessarily better in terms of what would be better in a pro game, better for you elo.

At that Elo people going to die a lot, people often make the mistake of trying to keep up with enemy champions farming your teammates by farming minions... while CS important you never going to keep up with someone farming champions by farming creeps, go farm champions too.



Okay just thought that Naut would be good mid cause of his ability to take dmg and pull to help jungler with ganks?

He's probably not the greatest mid, but he does make a pretty decent support, if you want to run him in a role other than jungler.
TheShadowPlayer1
Profile Joined August 2012
31 Posts
August 27 2012 04:43 GMT
#3085
Ok, iCanada, but sorry to pester you but what about the runes?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 04:49:10
August 27 2012 04:48 GMT
#3086
the hitbox on his anchor actually hurts you mid, you have to walk so far over to the side of the lane to get a clear side that it's beyond obvious what you are going for. like at 1k elo you can probly make it happen but there are easier options.

you basically need to get a walk up passive>w reset>E to win a trade not involving your ult.
Carrilord has arrived.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 27 2012 04:51 GMT
#3087
chu played him mid at three million elo, "there are better options" doesn't mean anything. I don't think most people's elo would be any lower playing naut mid than pretty much whatever else they want. He has plenty of desirable mid qualities and it seems fantastic for getting fed at low elo, when your jungler comes you literally won't have to do anything except press R to collect a kill.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 27 2012 04:51 GMT
#3088
On August 27 2012 13:43 TheShadowPlayer1 wrote:
Ok, iCanada, but sorry to pester you but what about the runes?


Yeah, I'd say those runes fine. I dont have a Naut specific page, just run a standard jungler page of movespeed quints, armor yellows, attack speed blues, 6 armor pen reds and 3 attack speed reds that I use for like... almost every jungler.

If you want a runepage specifically for naut I'd say 9 attack speed runes probably better. Not to mention, you can never go wrong with HP quints. I dont know if CDR blues are good or not, but I like CDR so it should work.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 27 2012 04:56 GMT
#3089
Standard Ali Runes should work on Naut. AS Reds, Armour Yellows, MRes Scaling Blues, MS Quints.

This guide amongst others on Solomid about Nautilus seems pretty useful.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 05:02:44
August 27 2012 05:00 GMT
#3090
I guess I'm being too negative, I mean like, if you can stay even and not get zoned pre 6 you can pretty much freefarm the entire rest of the game, which is really solid, his roam would be strong also, which is good, but I'm not sure he has the pushing power to really pull it off efficiently, if you spend your w on wraiths, you won't have it for a wave I mean like, you aren't wrong in that you can just outplay the other person with him, and it's not an autoloss lane or anything like that.

I mean it's a game so if "there are better options" is a cop out idk what to say, but I can't compromise my opinion further than to say, he's a fun character and you can 100% get him to unkillable don't give a fuck machine if you don't get zoned pre 6 and get to say 25-30 min but in my mind if I was trying to "get out of elo hell ~1k" which was the original question I think there are better options.

as a jungler however I think he's an amazing choice for that elo range.
Carrilord has arrived.
TheShadowPlayer1
Profile Joined August 2012
31 Posts
August 27 2012 05:01 GMT
#3091
I canada, thats exactly what i have, LOL
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 27 2012 05:03 GMT
#3092
On August 27 2012 14:00 Slusher wrote:
I guess I'm being too negative, I mean like, if you can stay even and not get zoned pre 6 you can pretty much freefarm the entire rest of the game, which is really solid, his roam would be strong also, which is good, but I'm not sure he has the pushing power to really pull it off efficiently, if you spend your w on wraiths, you won't have it for a wave I mean like, you aren't wrong in that you can just outplay the other person with him, and it's not an autoloss lane or anything like that.

I mean it's a game so if "there are better options" is a cop out idk what to say, but I can't compromise my opinion further than to say, he's a fun character and you can 100% get him to unkillable don't give a fuck machine if you don't get zoned pre 6 and get to say 25-30 min but in my mind if I was trying to "get out of elo hell ~1k" which was the original question I think there are better options.


The reason I think Naut mid not that great is because I can't see him flat out winning against any APs. Reason to pick him mid is he can free farm, and he a good gank assist... but like half the AP champs can free farm regardless of lane matchups, and half of those are also have really good gank assists.

I'm far from an expert or anything though, so... eh. I'm just some mediocre at best player that wants to help people.

<_<
TheShadowPlayer1
Profile Joined August 2012
31 Posts
August 27 2012 05:03 GMT
#3093
Slusher United States. August 27 2012 14:00. Posts 1212 PM Profile Blog Quote #
I guess I'm being too negative, I mean like, if you can stay even and not get zoned pre 6 you can pretty much freefarm the entire rest of the game, which is really solid, his roam would be strong also, which is good, but I'm not sure he has the pushing power to really pull it off efficiently, if you spend your w on wraiths, you won't have it for a wave I mean like, you aren't wrong in that you can just outplay the other person with him, and it's not an autoloss lane or anything like that.

I mean it's a game so if "there are better options" is a cop out idk what to say, but I can't compromise my opinion further than to say, he's a fun character and you can 100% get him to unkillable don't give a fuck machine if you don't get zoned pre 6 and get to say 25-30 min but in my mind if I was trying to "get out of elo hell ~1k" which was the original question I think there are better options.


Yah, I mainly wanna play him jungle, I was just really interested if mid was even viable, I think that his ability to zone would be insane and he could counter pick many a champ?
TheShadowPlayer1
Profile Joined August 2012
31 Posts
August 27 2012 05:06 GMT
#3094
I might have misunderstood you there... oh no
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 27 2012 05:10 GMT
#3095
well I'm just an opinion too, I try to provide my reasons, but in the end there is no reason to listen to me any more than anyone else, just trying to present a counter point.

snip is right in that chu8 ran him mid at well over 2k and wins games
Carrilord has arrived.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 27 2012 05:18 GMT
#3096
In a game with someone named dSelect

that made me chuckle
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 05:24:35
August 27 2012 05:23 GMT
#3097
I really like the music on froggen's stream. So cheerful and relaxing.

EDIT: chalice on Ashe lolol.... infinite W ftw.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 27 2012 05:30 GMT
#3098
On August 27 2012 14:23 Sufficiency wrote:
I really like the music on froggen's stream. So cheerful and relaxing.

EDIT: chalice on Ashe lolol.... infinite W ftw.


Wasn't Chalice on Ashe's recommended item list a long time ago?
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
August 27 2012 05:36 GMT
#3099
On August 27 2012 14:30 Celestial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 14:23 Sufficiency wrote:
I really like the music on froggen's stream. So cheerful and relaxing.

EDIT: chalice on Ashe lolol.... infinite W ftw.


Wasn't Chalice on Ashe's recommended item list a long time ago?

Ashe was philo stone, you are probably thinking of Sivir.
Fortunately Riot came to their senses and designed manamune to replace chalice on Sivir's recommended items.
TheShadowPlayer1
Profile Joined August 2012
31 Posts
August 27 2012 05:37 GMT
#3100
Manamune on GP normal with friends who make sure your lane is safe too farm is too strong
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