EPTOn August 26 2012 22:03 Kaniol wrote:
Make his ulti deal true damage. And refresh on kill.
Make his ulti deal true damage. And refresh on kill.
That made me cringe irl at the thought
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 27 2012 02:01 phyvo wrote: I thought that we recently discovered that % reduction was actually applied after flat pen. When was the last time we tested this? No, we discovered that % Reduction is applied after Flat Reduction. Both forms of reduction are applied before any type of penetration. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On August 27 2012 02:01 phyvo wrote: I thought that we recently discovered that % reduction was actually applied after flat pen. When was the last time we tested this? We didn't recently discover this - we discovered it right after they changed it which is more than 1½ years ago if I'm not mistaken? The thing is that Wukong's Q is reduction rather than penetration, so it will be applied before penetration no matter if it is % or flat. Edit: Oh, it was already answered.. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 27 2012 02:24 EquilasH wrote: We didn't recently discover this - we discovered it right after they changed it which is more than 1½ years ago if I'm not mistaken? The thing is that Wukong's Q is reduction rather than penetration, so it will be applied before penetration no matter if it is % or flat. Edit: Oh, it was already answered.. I am pretty sure you might as well play Wukong as jungle or mid at this point. His top is pretty bad while sustained based lanes and Darius run wild. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 27 2012 03:03 zer0das wrote: Except he needs the farm of a solo lane to do his job, so jungling him against anyone except baddies isn't going to work that well. Fiddles jungles just fine as long as he's not invaded. They're kinda similar in that they both have good AoE ults. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On August 27 2012 03:06 obesechicken13 wrote: Fiddles jungles just fine as long as he's not invaded. They're kinda similar in that they both have good AoE ults. part of what makes fiddle jungle okay, even without high farm, is a 3s point-and-click fear and an aoe silence wukong is not really suited to jungle play | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 27 2012 03:21 gtrsrs wrote: part of what makes fiddle jungle okay, even without high farm, is a 3s point-and-click fear and an aoe silence wukong is not really suited to jungle play True, but his top lane is pretty bad right now. Might as well play him mid. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And mid... well, mid, you could as well run Talon, Pantheon or Xin. They lack his decoy, but everything else they're simply better than him. They don't have his crazy-ass AoE tho so I guess you could pick him in some comps... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 27 2012 03:44 Alaric wrote: He has strong match-ups top. Are they popular picks atm, though? I don't think so, except maybe Rumble. And mid... well, mid, you could as well run Talon, Pantheon or Xin. They lack his decoy, but everything else they're simply better than him. They don't have his crazy-ass AoE tho so I guess you could pick him in some comps... I am pretty sure Rumble destroys Wukong on top. For mid, Wukong feels pretty good (based on my very limited experience with him). He scales much stronger than Talon and Pantheon and he has an escape. His roam is pretty sad though. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 27 2012 03:48 Alaric wrote: But I don't think you send an AD lane bully/assassin mid to scale well. And Panth/Talon are stronger in lane and when roaming. Or you can bully the lane AND scale well. You don't have to roam that much if you scale well. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
His only 2 bad matchups against the popular picks are Irelia and Darius tbh (from my experience he lanes fine against Malphite, for example). Edit: Also wtf @Sufficiency - is Wukong's roam bad all of a sudden? A stealth+ a crazy AoE ult.... | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On August 27 2012 03:44 Alaric wrote: He has strong match-ups top. Are they popular picks atm, though? I don't think so, except maybe Rumble. And mid... well, mid, you could as well run Talon, Pantheon or Xin. They lack his decoy, but everything else they're simply better than him. They don't have his crazy-ass AoE tho so I guess you could pick him in some comps... warwick and irelia are both pretty good matchups for wu. kennen vlad are great matchups i think he can beat jayce (lol) less often picked that he can beat: trynd, gp, teemo he does have pretty frequently picked bad matchups tho. the easiest remedy i've found is to not blind pick wukong or pick him into his bad matchups. don't pick against lee, riven, panth, nunu ever. don't blind pick if lee or riven or rumble are available and darius obv | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Teemo is dunk material but really annoying because you can't EQ a good Teemo, who'll blind you before your Q can get used and then run away like the obnoxious midget that he is. Take him by surprise and you'll trash him no problem tho (and he doesn't deserve any better). | ||
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Celial
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Edit: He is also using "tournament builds" now instead of his usual builds. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On August 27 2012 04:10 gtrsrs wrote: warwick and irelia are both pretty good matchups for wu. kennen vlad are great matchups i think he can beat jayce (lol) less often picked that he can beat: trynd, gp, teemo he does have pretty frequently picked bad matchups tho. the easiest remedy i've found is to not blind pick wukong or pick him into his bad matchups. don't pick against lee, riven, panth, nunu ever. don't blind pick if lee or riven or rumble are available and darius obv i doubt that wukong could beat jayce just because of how easy it is for jayce to disengage. edit: and then switch to ranged and shoot him in the back. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On August 27 2012 04:37 Celial wrote: Before he was always laughing and cracking jokes when his team fucked up, but now he is pretty bitter and kinda raging about it =/ No, he was a dick like this before, too. Just reverting to old habits. | ||
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