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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 26 2012 08:07 GMT
#2941
time 2 q up 2 q dodge
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 26 2012 08:31 GMT
#2942
you think you guys have it bad

on SEA server the whole 1.7k - 2k totals up to just ~100 people. we have a douchebag who queues and then declines and then re-queues. you are forever locked into queueing and can never start a game.
cool beans
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 26 2012 08:34 GMT
#2943
wow that sucks lol,people really have too much free time
Cackle™
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 26 2012 08:34 GMT
#2944
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/yugb1/startale_disbanding_from_krepos_stream/

we will see what will happen
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
August 26 2012 09:13 GMT
#2945
On August 26 2012 16:11 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:01 HazMat wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 26 2012 13:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
regi was in my 1900 game once without his gf and he carried that shit so hard and outplayed the other mid it was brutal


I remember that one game i had to play against bigfatjiji.... "he isn't that great without his team", my teammate said.... and well....

Yeah a lot of people seem to think this. I think if you watch someone's stream and you notice mistakes they make you instantly think they're bad while ignoring the fact that you probably make those same mistakes. I used to be guilty of this until I started streaming and realized I make a LOT of really bad mistakes but that doesn't make me awful, I don't think. That's probably why there are so many top players that people consider "bad." Such as Regi.


I never understand the Regi hate. The only thing I understand about it is the Regi TF hate. He plays a strong TF, but TF is far more situational than what Regi thinks. He picks TF for TSM comps that would be much better off with another mid like Ahri or another ganker that is not as all-in as TF.


Honestly, Regi's TF was almost always ending with him feeding real hard, it was really hard to watch :/
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
August 26 2012 09:28 GMT
#2946
On August 26 2012 17:34 Chexx wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/yugb1/startale_disbanding_from_krepos_stream/

we will see what will happen


Zzz interested on this too.
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
August 26 2012 10:03 GMT
#2947
EUW Down for anyone else?
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
August 26 2012 10:08 GMT
#2948
Does anyone else think that "The Great Saiyaman" intro fits Ezrael as a dance? Especially knowing his voice actor.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 26 2012 10:09 GMT
#2949
On August 26 2012 19:03 Leonite7 wrote:
EUW Down for anyone else?

Can't login
Cackle™
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 10:18:51
August 26 2012 10:18 GMT
#2950
On August 26 2012 16:11 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:01 HazMat wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 26 2012 13:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
regi was in my 1900 game once without his gf and he carried that shit so hard and outplayed the other mid it was brutal


I remember that one game i had to play against bigfatjiji.... "he isn't that great without his team", my teammate said.... and well....

Yeah a lot of people seem to think this. I think if you watch someone's stream and you notice mistakes they make you instantly think they're bad while ignoring the fact that you probably make those same mistakes. I used to be guilty of this until I started streaming and realized I make a LOT of really bad mistakes but that doesn't make me awful, I don't think. That's probably why there are so many top players that people consider "bad." Such as Regi.


I never understand the Regi hate. The only thing I understand about it is the Regi TF hate. He plays a strong TF, but TF is far more situational than what Regi thinks. He picks TF for TSM comps that would be much better off with another mid like Ahri or another ganker that is not as all-in as TF.


I don't think you could make a convincing argument that TF is situational at all. He has really high damage output in late game, incredible ganking power, decent CC, and S-class poke.

Does he work better in high mobility team comps and comps with other globals (like Noc/Shen)? Certainly. Would he fit in badly if you wanted to run an AoE team comp? Definitely. But if you're just doing like a standard bruiser top, random ass jungler, and whatever botlane you possibly want then Twisted Fate will fit in just fine.

Situational picks are like...Akali. Or maybe Mordekaiser. But a champion that has a strong mid game, a strong late game, and an average to above average lane phase like TF will fit into any team comp and is definitely not situational.

As for Regi TF I honestly don't think he's that terrible on him. He isn't as good as some of the Korean or Chinese TFs I've seen but other than the times I've seen him go gp10 TF he's done alright.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 10:27:09
August 26 2012 10:23 GMT
#2951
On August 26 2012 19:18 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 16:11 cLutZ wrote:
On August 26 2012 16:01 HazMat wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 26 2012 13:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
regi was in my 1900 game once without his gf and he carried that shit so hard and outplayed the other mid it was brutal


I remember that one game i had to play against bigfatjiji.... "he isn't that great without his team", my teammate said.... and well....

Yeah a lot of people seem to think this. I think if you watch someone's stream and you notice mistakes they make you instantly think they're bad while ignoring the fact that you probably make those same mistakes. I used to be guilty of this until I started streaming and realized I make a LOT of really bad mistakes but that doesn't make me awful, I don't think. That's probably why there are so many top players that people consider "bad." Such as Regi.


I never understand the Regi hate. The only thing I understand about it is the Regi TF hate. He plays a strong TF, but TF is far more situational than what Regi thinks. He picks TF for TSM comps that would be much better off with another mid like Ahri or another ganker that is not as all-in as TF.


I don't think you could make a convincing argument that TF is situational at all. He has really high damage output in late game, incredible ganking power, decent CC, and S-class poke.

Does he work better in high mobility team comps and comps with other globals (like Noc/Shen)? Certainly. Would he fit in badly if you wanted to run an AoE team comp? Definitely. But if you're just doing like a standard bruiser top, random ass jungler, and whatever botlane you possibly want then Twisted Fate will fit in just fine.

Situational picks are like...Akali. Or maybe Mordekaiser. But a champion that has a strong mid game, a strong late game, and an average to above average lane phase like TF will fit into any team comp and is definitely not situational.

As for Regi TF I honestly don't think he's that terrible on him. He isn't as good as some of the Korean or Chinese TFs I've seen but other than the times I've seen him go gp10 TF he's done alright.

I think everybody agree that regi can be either one of the best ap mid in the game, or a big millstone for TSM. That's where the hate comes from, you don't really like to see the biggest mouth of the team making those kind of mistakes.

Also Rengar is out since more than 2 days, why is it there is no new hero spotlight yet ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 10:29:08
August 26 2012 10:27 GMT
#2952
On August 26 2012 19:23 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 19:18 overt wrote:
On August 26 2012 16:11 cLutZ wrote:
On August 26 2012 16:01 HazMat wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 26 2012 13:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
regi was in my 1900 game once without his gf and he carried that shit so hard and outplayed the other mid it was brutal


I remember that one game i had to play against bigfatjiji.... "he isn't that great without his team", my teammate said.... and well....

Yeah a lot of people seem to think this. I think if you watch someone's stream and you notice mistakes they make you instantly think they're bad while ignoring the fact that you probably make those same mistakes. I used to be guilty of this until I started streaming and realized I make a LOT of really bad mistakes but that doesn't make me awful, I don't think. That's probably why there are so many top players that people consider "bad." Such as Regi.


I never understand the Regi hate. The only thing I understand about it is the Regi TF hate. He plays a strong TF, but TF is far more situational than what Regi thinks. He picks TF for TSM comps that would be much better off with another mid like Ahri or another ganker that is not as all-in as TF.


I don't think you could make a convincing argument that TF is situational at all. He has really high damage output in late game, incredible ganking power, decent CC, and S-class poke.

Does he work better in high mobility team comps and comps with other globals (like Noc/Shen)? Certainly. Would he fit in badly if you wanted to run an AoE team comp? Definitely. But if you're just doing like a standard bruiser top, random ass jungler, and whatever botlane you possibly want then Twisted Fate will fit in just fine.

Situational picks are like...Akali. Or maybe Mordekaiser. But a champion that has a strong mid game, a strong late game, and an average to above average lane phase like TF will fit into any team comp and is definitely not situational.

As for Regi TF I honestly don't think he's that terrible on him. He isn't as good as some of the Korean or Chinese TFs I've seen but other than the times I've seen him go gp10 TF he's done alright.

I think everybody agree that regi can be either one of the best ap mid in the game, or a big millstone for TSM. That's where the hate comes from, you don't really like to see the biggest mouth of the team making those kind of mistakes.


I don't really like Regi. I think the personality he's created for himself is annoying and not funny at all. I will agree with anyone ever that Regi is the most hit-or-miss guy on TSM, possibly even the most hit-or-miss AP mid period.

But I don't think his TF is worse than his other APs. Just like his other champs he has tons of TF games where he looks like a god and tons of games where he just feeds. I blame it entirely on his play style. If he could channel his "balls deep" mode for appropriate times then he'd be incredibly good but I dunno if he could ever learn to play passive.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 26 2012 11:08 GMT
#2953
On August 26 2012 19:27 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 19:23 WhiteDog wrote:
On August 26 2012 19:18 overt wrote:
On August 26 2012 16:11 cLutZ wrote:
On August 26 2012 16:01 HazMat wrote:
On August 26 2012 15:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 26 2012 13:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
regi was in my 1900 game once without his gf and he carried that shit so hard and outplayed the other mid it was brutal


I remember that one game i had to play against bigfatjiji.... "he isn't that great without his team", my teammate said.... and well....

Yeah a lot of people seem to think this. I think if you watch someone's stream and you notice mistakes they make you instantly think they're bad while ignoring the fact that you probably make those same mistakes. I used to be guilty of this until I started streaming and realized I make a LOT of really bad mistakes but that doesn't make me awful, I don't think. That's probably why there are so many top players that people consider "bad." Such as Regi.


I never understand the Regi hate. The only thing I understand about it is the Regi TF hate. He plays a strong TF, but TF is far more situational than what Regi thinks. He picks TF for TSM comps that would be much better off with another mid like Ahri or another ganker that is not as all-in as TF.


I don't think you could make a convincing argument that TF is situational at all. He has really high damage output in late game, incredible ganking power, decent CC, and S-class poke.

Does he work better in high mobility team comps and comps with other globals (like Noc/Shen)? Certainly. Would he fit in badly if you wanted to run an AoE team comp? Definitely. But if you're just doing like a standard bruiser top, random ass jungler, and whatever botlane you possibly want then Twisted Fate will fit in just fine.

Situational picks are like...Akali. Or maybe Mordekaiser. But a champion that has a strong mid game, a strong late game, and an average to above average lane phase like TF will fit into any team comp and is definitely not situational.

As for Regi TF I honestly don't think he's that terrible on him. He isn't as good as some of the Korean or Chinese TFs I've seen but other than the times I've seen him go gp10 TF he's done alright.

I think everybody agree that regi can be either one of the best ap mid in the game, or a big millstone for TSM. That's where the hate comes from, you don't really like to see the biggest mouth of the team making those kind of mistakes.


I don't really like Regi. I think the personality he's created for himself is annoying and not funny at all. I will agree with anyone ever that Regi is the most hit-or-miss guy on TSM, possibly even the most hit-or-miss AP mid period.

But I don't think his TF is worse than his other APs. Just like his other champs he has tons of TF games where he looks like a god and tons of games where he just feeds. I blame it entirely on his play style. If he could channel his "balls deep" mode for appropriate times then he'd be incredibly good but I dunno if he could ever learn to play passive.

He plays Karthus, maybe the most passive mid ever, perfectly... It really depends on his picks. His TF really is bad for himself, because it pushes him to make dumb mistakes.
The legend of Darien lives on
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
August 26 2012 11:22 GMT
#2954
Back when you could see your normal elo I was 2k, but ranked im 1.2k, would I be taken serial?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 26 2012 11:26 GMT
#2955
On August 26 2012 19:23 WhiteDog wrote:
Also Rengar is out since more than 2 days, why is it there is no new hero spotlight yet ?

What do you mean, Syndra? She'll probably be included in the patch coming next tuesday, but she won't be released for at least a week after, considering Riot's new schedule for champs.

Also can connect on EUW but chat is down again.

Regarding Rengar's ult, as somebody mentioned I'd see it more as a way to come in from a weird angle and jump on an unsuspecting target. I wouldn't call it "initiation" though, I'd rather see it with a jungler/mid/top with AoE initiation, so that in stand-offs the enemy team can be zoned/forced to scatter to avoid getting initiation on, which makes it easier for Rengar to ult-leap on an isolated squishy, especially if the rest of the team gets initiated on at the same time.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11542 Posts
August 26 2012 11:29 GMT
#2956
On August 26 2012 16:49 Telegnosis wrote:
I thought the idea with precharging Q for your jump-in is that you can continue to charge ferocity before actually using it. As in stealth => build 5 ferocity => empowered savagery => build 5 more ferocity => pounce. I have no idea if this is how it actually works, I'm basing my understanding of the abilities entirely on the wiki as I don't own him.


If that works, it is pretty scary. But i doubt it does. Double empQ in your face is not a nice thing to happen to most squishies.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
August 26 2012 11:54 GMT
#2957
Question: If Malphite is picked predominantly because his ult allows him to jump on squishies and dunk them, wouldn't Wukong be godtier now? Stronk in lane, hard to gank him, tons of damage. Thoughts?
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 12:08:55
August 26 2012 12:00 GMT
#2958
Malphite doesn't only dunk the carry he sticks on them and reduces their attack and movement speed to shit rendering them useless.Also his ult incredibly easy to land,it takes more skill to flash out of it than for you to hit it effectively,while wukongs ult is kinda hard to land on the carrys if you don't have flash up and they are not in a bad position.
His ult has a ridic ap scale as well.Wukong is kinda meh imo,he looses to a lot of stuff top lane and unless he gets fed he's pretty hit and miss.You just exhaust wukong and watch how the poor monkey spins in place doing absolutely jack.
Cackle™
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
August 26 2012 12:03 GMT
#2959
On August 26 2012 20:54 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Question: If Malphite is picked predominantly because his ult allows him to jump on squishies and dunk them, wouldn't Wukong be godtier now? Stronk in lane, hard to gank him, tons of damage. Thoughts?


I think it's because malphite's damage is all front loaded burst, whereas wukong needs some help to keep the enemy in the ult.

J4+Wukong real strong.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 12:09:00
August 26 2012 12:08 GMT
#2960
Wukong is very underrated. His laning is good, his teamfighting is good, he has burst and sustained damage, mobility, ...

Biggest problem is you're a monkey.
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