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[Patch 1.0.0.144: Diana] General Discussion - Page 9

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 23:38:25
August 01 2012 23:37 GMT
#161
On August 02 2012 08:16 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:37 TheYango wrote:
Short-range PBAoE doesn't count as AoE?

isn't that redundant?

That was sort of the point. Sufficiency was basically saying that because she needs to go in melee range to use her AoE skills, they don't count as "real" AoE.

There's absolutely nothing about Diana's kit that makes her less AoE-oriented than, say, Amumu.
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 01 2012 23:39 GMT
#162
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 01 2012 23:39 GMT
#163
On August 02 2012 08:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy hell Diana is so fun - I love Dark Seer

Too bad PBE is plagued with people who are just flat out bad lol. I had most cs in game from jungle.

y u no have Zyra quote in your sig?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 23:42:04
August 01 2012 23:40 GMT
#164
On August 02 2012 07:53 TheKefka wrote:
I'm not the biggest fan of squishy ap junglers,she has no cc apart from that pull,which I guess may make or break her,and if you don't get a decent lead or get fed your just going to get cced and nuked in a teamfight.

There's absolutely nothing about her that makes her more squishy than Amumu. He has slightly higher level 1 HP and armor, but she has higher growth in both stats. Both have scaling MR. He has the damage reduction from his E, she has the shield on her W.

She's only going to be as squishy as you choose to build her. Any assumptions people are making on how squishy she is/should be are based on her design, and not really rooted in any actual gameplay at this point.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 23:46:57
August 01 2012 23:43 GMT
#165
On August 02 2012 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 08:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy hell Diana is so fun - I love Dark Seer

Too bad PBE is plagued with people who are just flat out bad lol. I had most cs in game from jungle.

y u no have Zyra quote in your sig?


I don't actually know her quotes. Does she say anything that would fit in with my "fuck the man" paradigm?

Ok ok, what you guys think is better:

"Feel the thorns' embrace."

or

"Choke the life from them."

or

"Death is in bloom."
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Rookie6
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil583 Posts
August 01 2012 23:47 GMT
#166
On August 02 2012 07:53 TheKefka wrote:
I'm not the biggest fan of squishy ap junglers,she has no cc apart from that pull,which I guess may make or break her,and if you don't get a decent lead or get fed your just going to get cced and nuked in a teamfight.
All her skills are pretty much aoe and she has no escape so if anything she will be played mid maybe.Top is going to be suicide.
Shes going to be a fun snowball champ but nothing else,imo shes going to suck.

Oh I just remembered what that cho skin reminds me off
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Machinedramon! This brings back some nice memories, Digimon Adventure was the best from the Digimon series :p
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 01 2012 23:52 GMT
#167
On August 02 2012 08:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 07:53 TheKefka wrote:
I'm not the biggest fan of squishy ap junglers,she has no cc apart from that pull,which I guess may make or break her,and if you don't get a decent lead or get fed your just going to get cced and nuked in a teamfight.

There's absolutely nothing about her that makes her more squishy than Amumu. He has slightly higher level 1 HP and armor, but she has higher growth in both stats. Both have scaling MR. He has the damage reduction from his E, she has the shield on her W.

She's only going to be as squishy as you choose to build her. Any assumptions people are making on how squishy she is/should be are based on her design, and not really rooted in any actual gameplay at this point.

I highly doubt anyone is going to build her like amumu and she isn't going to work like him.
No matter how good amumu is,his early levels are still hell if your lanes aren't strong and ready to protect you.
Cackle™
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 01 2012 23:54 GMT
#168
On August 02 2012 08:52 TheKefka wrote:
I highly doubt anyone is going to build her like amumu and she isn't going to work like him.

I wasn't implying that, but when she has:

1) Extremely respectable baseline damage
2) A powerful CC/utility spell that doesn't scale off any damage stats
3) A combo that scales in effectiveness off of CDR (Q->R)

There's absolutely no reason to assume that she has to be built squishy.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 01 2012 23:58 GMT
#169
On August 02 2012 06:25 TheKefka wrote:
Doesn't anivia have a robot-ish skin already?
Udyr should get one of these.A transforming batlecast udyr,now that I would buy.

I want that Dinosaur Udyr skin someone was suggesting a long time ago
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 02 2012 00:01 GMT
#170
On August 02 2012 08:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 08:52 TheKefka wrote:
I highly doubt anyone is going to build her like amumu and she isn't going to work like him.

I wasn't implying that, but when she has:

1) Extremely respectable baseline damage
2) A powerful CC/utility spell that doesn't scale off any damage stats
3) A combo that scales in effectiveness off of CDR (Q->R)

There's absolutely no reason to assume that she has to be built squishy.

K we will see,I still think she will suck.Although one thing she will be really good at is preventing invades with that Q.Amumu is pretty much a auto invade on the blue buff every time he's picked and she will be much safer than him lvl 1.
Cackle™
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 01:01:12
August 02 2012 00:02 GMT
#171
edit : Someone beat me to this
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 02 2012 00:19 GMT
#172
Anyone else have problems watching LoLreplays on dual monitors? I can't scroll to the left whenever I try to watch a replay (the mouse goes to my left monitor.)
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EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
August 02 2012 00:27 GMT
#173
On August 02 2012 08:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 08:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 02 2012 08:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy hell Diana is so fun - I love Dark Seer

Too bad PBE is plagued with people who are just flat out bad lol. I had most cs in game from jungle.

y u no have Zyra quote in your sig?


I don't actually know her quotes. Does she say anything that would fit in with my "fuck the man" paradigm?

Ok ok, what you guys think is better:

"Feel the thorns' embrace."

or

"Choke the life from them."

or

"Death is in bloom."



"Death is in bloom" is actually a pretty badass quote.
wat
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#174
On August 02 2012 09:19 HazMat wrote:
Anyone else have problems watching LoLreplays on dual monitors? I can't scroll to the left whenever I try to watch a replay (the mouse goes to my left monitor.)


have you tried alt tabbing and alt tabbing back
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 02 2012 00:49 GMT
#175
On August 02 2012 09:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 09:19 HazMat wrote:
Anyone else have problems watching LoLreplays on dual monitors? I can't scroll to the left whenever I try to watch a replay (the mouse goes to my left monitor.)


have you tried alt tabbing and alt tabbing back

Yeah of course.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 02 2012 00:55 GMT
#176
On August 02 2012 08:52 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 08:40 TheYango wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:53 TheKefka wrote:
I'm not the biggest fan of squishy ap junglers,she has no cc apart from that pull,which I guess may make or break her,and if you don't get a decent lead or get fed your just going to get cced and nuked in a teamfight.

There's absolutely nothing about her that makes her more squishy than Amumu. He has slightly higher level 1 HP and armor, but she has higher growth in both stats. Both have scaling MR. He has the damage reduction from his E, she has the shield on her W.

She's only going to be as squishy as you choose to build her. Any assumptions people are making on how squishy she is/should be are based on her design, and not really rooted in any actual gameplay at this point.

I highly doubt anyone is going to build her like amumu and she isn't going to work like him.
No matter how good amumu is,his early levels are still hell if your lanes aren't strong and ready to protect you.

Amumu aside, why would you not build her tanky AP? She's melee, has incentive to be in the middle of fights, and even has an ability that pulls everything towards her, plus her shield scales with AP and reistances. I wouldn't even dream of building her squishy AP with that type of kit.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 02 2012 00:59 GMT
#177
Meh, I don't see why not. A lot of Kassadins do not build HP at all and still perform well. Diana's base HP is way higher than Kassadin's...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 02 2012 01:01 GMT
#178
The combo of Abyssal+Zhonyas is getting popular now and I really like it on a lot of champions. I wonder if Diana would be able to farm that level of items in a game though in a reasonable amount of time. The 1600 upfront cost of an NLR is already pretty prohibitive since you have to spend time trying to bank money for it.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 02 2012 01:04 GMT
#179
On August 02 2012 09:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Meh, I don't see why not. A lot of Kassadins do not build HP at all and still perform well. Diana's base HP is way higher than Kassadin's...

Kass also silences, bursts harder, and can teleport away. Diana won't have an escape other than "slow and jump to a minion if ult is up" and can't silence or CC (unless you interrupt with E). Kits aren't the same, you can't really compare them as such.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 02 2012 01:11 GMT
#180
On August 02 2012 09:49 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 09:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On August 02 2012 09:19 HazMat wrote:
Anyone else have problems watching LoLreplays on dual monitors? I can't scroll to the left whenever I try to watch a replay (the mouse goes to my left monitor.)


have you tried alt tabbing and alt tabbing back

Yeah of course.


Is your computer plugged in?
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